[opensuse-buildservice] Add Scientific Linux to OBS
Hi guys, could Scientific Linux 6 please get added to OBS? Reasoning is that RHEL6 is basically useless since it is missing loads of - devel packages and CentOS isn't that healthy anymore (sadly) apparently. regards, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org
Am Freitag, 4. März 2011, 00:52:50 schrieb Stephan Kleine:
Hi guys,
could Scientific Linux 6 please get added to OBS?
I will give it a try ... but download is slow ... -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH email: adrian@suse.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org
On Friday, March 04, 2011 12:52:50 AM Stephan Kleine wrote:
Hi guys,
could Scientific Linux 6 please get added to OBS?
Reasoning is that RHEL6 is basically useless since it is missing loads of - devel packages and CentOS isn't that healthy anymore (sadly) apparently.
We have only limited space, let's not have CentOS and RHEL and Scientific Linux on the system. So, which two of the three do we want to have? Is there no SDK for RHEL6 with the missing devel packages? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org
Am 04.03.11 09:30, schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
On Friday, March 04, 2011 12:52:50 AM Stephan Kleine wrote:
Hi guys,
could Scientific Linux 6 please get added to OBS?
Reasoning is that RHEL6 is basically useless since it is missing loads of - devel packages and CentOS isn't that healthy anymore (sadly) apparently.
We have only limited space, let's not have CentOS and RHEL and Scientific Linux on the system. So, which two of the three do we want to have?
I think everyone would be happy to have just a "working" RHEL6 repository. With working I mean, it needs the *-devel packages, as for obvious reasons they are required on a build server. CentOS and SL both claim to be 100% binary compatible with RHEL!
Is there no SDK for RHEL6 with the missing devel packages?
To quote from the "RHEL6 - missing gtkmm24-devel" thread: Am 14.02.11 14:26, schrieb Ralf Becker:
Am 14.02.11 09:06, schrieb Adrian Schröter:
I am told that they are accessable via the rhn, but I am unsure if this is legal wise okay to put them on OBS from there (I doubt).
So, only the current available packages are there. (I don't understand where they draw the line, because several other packages can build as well.)
I'm sure you or openSUSE/Novell has some RH contacts, who could answer that question and/or maybe get an exception to use at least the -devel packages from RHEL 6 optional repository.
Unfortunately I have no more RH contacts to ask myself.
I know RHEL is not the primary focus of openSUSE build server, but supporting a wide area of distributions is really the strong point of it.
The current situation is unsatisfying and fixing it only in our own local build server, as Lars described, does not help us with the packages we build for egroupware.org open source project, as the are build on build.opensuse.org:-(
So it needs someone to talk to RH about the devel packages ... Ralf -- Ralf Becker Outdoor Unlimited Training GmbH [www.outdoor-training.de] Handelsregister HRB Kaiserslautern 3587 Geschäftsführer Birgit und Ralf Becker Leibnizstr. 17, 67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany Telefon +49 (0)631 31657-0 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday, March 05, 2011 02:42:15 am Ralf Becker wrote:
So it needs someone to talk to RH about the devel packages ...
Ralf
Excuse me for asking what may be a dumb question, but why can't the devel packages be built from source which by the gpl must be available? -- Paul Elliott 1(512)837-1096 pelliott@BlackPatchPanel.com PMB 181, 11900 Metric Blvd Suite J http://www.free.blackpatchpanel.com/pme/ Austin TX 78758-3117
Am Samstag, 5. März 2011, 21:28:48 schrieb Paul Elliott:
On Saturday, March 05, 2011 02:42:15 am Ralf Becker wrote:
So it needs someone to talk to RH about the devel packages ...
Ralf
Excuse me for asking what may be a dumb question, but why can't the devel packages be built from source which by the gpl must be available?
To my knowledge (but I might be wrong), they are shipped only via RHN which forbids redistribution. However, I have not really checked this, but it is too risky for me without finding out details (and I do not want to spend too much time one this personally). I also have no access to RHN. bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH email: adrian@suse.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org
Adrian Schröter wrote:
Am Samstag, 5. März 2011, 21:28:48 schrieb Paul Elliott:
On Saturday, March 05, 2011 02:42:15 am Ralf Becker wrote:
So it needs someone to talk to RH about the devel packages ...
Ralf
Excuse me for asking what may be a dumb question, but why can't the devel packages be built from source which by the gpl must be available?
To my knowledge (but I might be wrong), they are shipped only via RHN which forbids redistribution.
afaik - You're obviously given permission via the GPL to do certain things, but the RHN has a clause that if you redistribute the sources they'll cut your subscription. IANAL, but this is how it was explained to me in lay terms by our lawyer. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org
There is not a ScientificLinux:6 standard project repository. However, I had to notice that the ftp server was not very unreliable, so there are quite some missing and broken rpms atm. I try to fix this atm. Anyway, on i586 a first packages were buildable, so there is a osc & build package in openSUSE:Tools project. I use the new rpm-md format for the repository at http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tools/ScientificLinux_6/ but I dunno, if ScientificLinux/RHEL 6 is able to handle it. Would be great if someone could test to add this repo and to install osc and build package. x86_64 is broken in general still due to missing/broken binaries. bye adrian Am Montag, 7. März 2011, 08:22:02 schrieb Adrian Schröter:
Am Samstag, 5. März 2011, 21:28:48 schrieb Paul Elliott:
On Saturday, March 05, 2011 02:42:15 am Ralf Becker wrote:
So it needs someone to talk to RH about the devel packages ...
Ralf
Excuse me for asking what may be a dumb question, but why can't the devel packages be built from source which by the gpl must be available?
To my knowledge (but I might be wrong), they are shipped only via RHN which forbids redistribution.
However, I have not really checked this, but it is too risky for me without finding out details (and I do not want to spend too much time one this personally). I also have no access to RHN.
bye adrian
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it was before my coffee :/ Am Montag, 7. März 2011, 08:50:12 schrieb Adrian Schröter:
There is not a
There is *NOW* a ...
ScientificLinux:6 standard
project repository. However, I had to notice that the ftp server was not very unreliable, so there are quite some missing and broken
not very reliable ....
rpms atm. I try to fix this atm.
Anyway, on i586 a first packages were buildable, so there is a osc & build package in openSUSE:Tools project. I use the new rpm-md format for the repository at
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tools/ScientificLinux_6/
but I dunno, if ScientificLinux/RHEL 6 is able to handle it. Would be great if someone could test to add this repo and to install osc and build package.
x86_64 is broken in general still due to missing/broken binaries.
x86_64 is starting builds now as well..
bye adrian
Am Montag, 7. März 2011, 08:22:02 schrieb Adrian Schröter:
Am Samstag, 5. März 2011, 21:28:48 schrieb Paul Elliott:
On Saturday, March 05, 2011 02:42:15 am Ralf Becker wrote:
So it needs someone to talk to RH about the devel packages ...
Ralf
Excuse me for asking what may be a dumb question, but why can't the devel packages be built from source which by the gpl must be available?
To my knowledge (but I might be wrong), they are shipped only via RHN which forbids redistribution.
However, I have not really checked this, but it is too risky for me without finding out details (and I do not want to spend too much time one this personally). I also have no access to RHN.
bye adrian
-- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH email: adrian@suse.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org
This line in prjconf breaks my build: "Substitute: qt3-devel qt-devel gcc-c++ libstdc++-devel" It substitutes QT3 by QT4 and my ./configure fails to find third qt. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org
Am Dienstag, 8. März 2011, 08:32:02 schrieb Matwey V. Kornilov:
This line in prjconf breaks my build:
"Substitute: qt3-devel qt-devel gcc-c++ libstdc++-devel"
It substitutes QT3 by QT4 and my ./configure fails to find third qt.
fixed -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH email: adrian@suse.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org
When will Scientific Linux be available on build.opensuse.org webui?
Srivats
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Adrian Schröter
Am Dienstag, 8. März 2011, 08:32:02 schrieb Matwey V. Kornilov:
This line in prjconf breaks my build:
"Substitute: qt3-devel qt-devel gcc-c++ libstdc++-devel"
It substitutes QT3 by QT4 and my ./configure fails to find third qt.
fixed
-- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH email: adrian@suse.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org
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On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 06:25, Srivats P
When will Scientific Linux be available on build.opensuse.org webui?
Srivats
It's there already; add the ScientificLinux:6/standard repository from the advanced ui -- later, Robert Xu -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org
It's there already; add the ScientificLinux:6/standard repository from the advanced ui
Looks like neither 0%{?rhel_version} nor 0%{?centos_version} evaluates to true for Scientific Linux. Is there a new one for SL? Srivats -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 13:23, Srivats P
It's there already; add the ScientificLinux:6/standard repository from the advanced ui
Looks like neither 0%{?rhel_version} nor 0%{?centos_version} evaluates to true for Scientific Linux.
Is there a new one for SL?
Srivats
0%{?scientificlinux_version} i think? check ScientificLinux:6's project config, at the very bottom. -- later, Robert Xu -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org
On Monday, March 07, 2011 01:22:02 am Adrian Schröter wrote:
Am Samstag, 5. März 2011, 21:28:48 schrieb Paul Elliott:
On Saturday, March 05, 2011 02:42:15 am Ralf Becker wrote:
So it needs someone to talk to RH about the devel packages ...
Ralf
Excuse me for asking what may be a dumb question, but why can't the devel packages be built from source which by the gpl must be available?
To my knowledge (but I might be wrong), they are shipped only via RHN which forbids redistribution.
How does RH comply with GPL v2 section 3 or GPL v3 sections 5 and 6? I understand that you are in a delicate position working for a compeditor and all but I am not under such restrictions and I am distrubed by this. I have not provided RHEL versions of my insignificant packages because of lack of devel packages. I am sure this must effect the more active packagers more profoundly. What is really happening?
However, I have not really checked this, but it is too risky for me without finding out details (and I do not want to spend too much time one this personally). I also have no access to RHN.
bye adrian
-- Paul Elliott 1(512)837-1096 pelliott@BlackPatchPanel.com PMB 181, 11900 Metric Blvd Suite J http://www.free.blackpatchpanel.com/pme/ Austin TX 78758-3117
Am Montag, 7. März 2011, 20:49:59 schrieb Paul Elliott:
On Monday, March 07, 2011 01:22:02 am Adrian Schröter wrote:
Am Samstag, 5. März 2011, 21:28:48 schrieb Paul Elliott:
On Saturday, March 05, 2011 02:42:15 am Ralf Becker wrote:
So it needs someone to talk to RH about the devel packages ...
Ralf
Excuse me for asking what may be a dumb question, but why can't the devel packages be built from source which by the gpl must be available?
To my knowledge (but I might be wrong), they are shipped only via RHN which forbids redistribution.
How does RH comply with GPL v2 section 3 or GPL v3 sections 5 and 6?
I have only rough ideas about this. And frankly, I don't want to spent no more time on this anymore. If anyone is interessted to clarify this feel free and try to get a statement from RH about this which clarifies the situation. Apart from that this is my last mail on this topic. sorry adrian
I understand that you are in a delicate position working for a compeditor and all but I am not under such restrictions and I am distrubed by this.
I have not provided RHEL versions of my insignificant packages because of lack of devel packages.
I am sure this must effect the more active packagers more profoundly.
What is really happening?
However, I have not really checked this, but it is too risky for me without finding out details (and I do not want to spend too much time one this personally). I also have no access to RHN.
bye adrian
-- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH email: adrian@suse.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org
On 2011-03-07 21:11:30 +0100, Adrian Schröter wrote:
Am Montag, 7. März 2011, 20:49:59 schrieb Paul Elliott:
On Monday, March 07, 2011 01:22:02 am Adrian Schröter wrote:
Am Samstag, 5. März 2011, 21:28:48 schrieb Paul Elliott:
On Saturday, March 05, 2011 02:42:15 am Ralf Becker wrote:
So it needs someone to talk to RH about the devel packages ...
Ralf
Excuse me for asking what may be a dumb question, but why can't the devel packages be built from source which by the gpl must be available?
To my knowledge (but I might be wrong), they are shipped only via RHN which forbids redistribution.
How does RH comply with GPL v2 section 3 or GPL v3 sections 5 and 6?
I have only rough ideas about this. And frankly, I don't want to spent no more time on this anymore.
If anyone is interessted to clarify this feel free and try to get a statement from RH about this which clarifies the situation.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679369 -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org
It is what CentOS team does :) Paul Elliott wrote:
On Saturday, March 05, 2011 02:42:15 am Ralf Becker wrote:
So it needs someone to talk to RH about the devel packages ...
Ralf
Excuse me for asking what may be a dumb question, but why can't the devel packages be built from source which by the gpl must be available?
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Matwey V. Kornilov -
Paul Elliott -
Ralf Becker -
Robert Xu -
Srivats P -
Stephan Kleine