https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=341073#c1 --- Comment #1 from Ulrich Derenthal 2007-11-13 07:50:44 MST --- I don't know what to do to give more useful information, but here is the output of top while this happened again. About an hour later, it had not stopped, and I stopped Firefox and Thunderbird. ---------------- top - 12:13:59 up 16:43, 8 users, load average: 5.77, 12.85, 8.22 Tasks: 146 total, 2 running, 144 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 0.8%us, 2.6%sy, 0.0%ni, 3.6%id, 92.7%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.3%si, 0.0%st Mem: 1034768k total, 157692k used, 877076k free, 644k buffers Swap: 1574328k total, 421584k used, 1152744k free, 24720k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 32758 ulrich 15 0 196m 8124 2952 S 4 0.8 0:29.57 acroread 183 root 15 0 0 0 0 D 1 0.0 0:03.33 pdflush 1193 ulrich 15 0 2192 952 732 R 1 0.1 0:00.44 top 17956 root 15 0 146m 14m 8764 S 1 1.4 8:53.45 Xorg 18567 ulrich 15 0 35852 2124 1560 R 1 0.2 2:04.93 emacs 184 root 10 -5 0 0 0 D 0 0.0 0:08.73 kswapd0 810 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.35 events/1 2638 haldaemo 18 0 5780 1760 1180 S 0 0.2 0:28.42 hald 2799 root 15 0 29960 1504 1276 S 0 0.1 0:57.39 NetworkManager 3122 root 15 0 3284 380 360 S 0 0.0 0:09.73 atieventsd 18152 ulrich 15 0 40820 3168 2340 S 0 0.3 0:53.09 kicker 18164 ulrich 15 0 32572 3548 2340 S 0 0.3 0:02.64 konsole 18176 ulrich 15 0 236m 3180 2276 S 0 0.3 0:10.11 kopete 18206 ulrich 15 0 25572 2024 1548 S 0 0.2 0:22.58 emacs 18250 ulrich 15 0 4344 976 784 S 0 0.1 0:17.67 xnetload 30113 ulrich 15 0 159m 2384 1988 S 0 0.2 1:48.03 thunderbird-bin 1 root 15 0 740 60 32 S 0 0.0 0:03.77 init .. -------------------- When I came back after another hour, I found the follow state in top (where I have already restarted Firefox and Thunderbird): -------------------- top - 15:49:54 up 20:19, 8 users, load average: 0.16, 0.19, 0.14 Tasks: 146 total, 1 running, 145 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 3.3%us, 2.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 93.3%id, 0.9%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.1%si, 0.0%st Mem: 1034768k total, 421132k used, 613636k free, 16536k buffers Swap: 1574328k total, 303692k used, 1270636k free, 127080k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 17956 root 15 0 144m 36m 10m S 5 3.6 9:44.29 Xorg 8165 ulrich 15 0 165m 76m 19m S 3 7.5 0:20.80 firefox-bin 18136 ulrich 15 0 35640 2556 1580 S 1 0.2 4:24.63 kded 18171 ulrich 15 0 41368 5880 2264 S 1 0.6 0:01.30 konqueror 1193 ulrich 15 0 2192 624 404 R 1 0.1 0:31.71 top 18152 ulrich 15 0 41132 10m 6604 S 1 1.0 1:05.00 kicker 18206 ulrich 15 0 25572 6824 1432 S 1 0.7 0:26.44 emacs 2498 messageb 16 0 2328 680 448 S 0 0.1 1:45.90 dbus-daemon 2799 root 15 0 29960 1256 992 S 0 0.1 1:01.83 NetworkManager 7753 ulrich 24 0 115m 33m 18m S 0 3.3 0:02.72 thunderbird-bin 18164 ulrich 15 0 32572 3752 2320 S 0 0.4 0:19.77 konsole 18250 ulrich 15 0 4344 712 508 S 0 0.1 0:28.98 xnetload 18274 ulrich 15 0 28484 3044 2244 S 0 0.3 0:13.65 klipper 1 root 15 0 740 60 32 S 0 0.0 0:04.28 init 2 root 17 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kthreadd 3 root RT -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.07 migration/0 4 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.77 ksoftirqd/0 .. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=341073#c3 --- Comment #3 from Ulrich Derenthal 2007-11-15 11:22:48 MST --- As I mentioned, this only happens sometimes (probably less than 10% of the resumes from suspend-to-ram), but over the time, it happened at least 5 to 10 times. I always work with KDE, so I don't have anything to do on my laptop without X. As I would have to test it for some time until I can say anything like "it seems to never happen", I must say that I am not that interested to go through this testing. Sorry. If there is anything I can do when I run across this again in KDE, I will give it a try. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=341073#c5 --- Comment #5 from Ulrich Derenthal 2007-11-15 13:33:29 MST --- As I mentioned in comment #2, this activity stopped some time after I closed Firefox and Thunderbird, but I am not sure whether the stop is related to closing them. Also note the CPU usage of 92.7%wa (I am not sure what this means) and that no application is using a significant CPU percentage. Finally, note that a considerable amount of swap is used while the RAM is almost empty. Usually, my system uses almost no swap and all of its RAM, as for example right now with similar applications open. Finally, I think I don't use any exotic applications, just standard KDE stuff, Thunderbird, Firefox, emacs. And it really feels like the system is swapping, which it should not do if so much RAM is free?! top - 21:31:11 up 46 min, 8 users, load average: 0.12, 0.28, 0.36 Tasks: 148 total, 1 running, 147 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 2.7%us, 0.6%sy, 0.0%ni, 96.7%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 1034768k total, 1014196k used, 20572k free, 71424k buffers Swap: 1574328k total, 88k used, 1574240k free, 312272k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 2790 root 15 0 147m 112m 14m S 3 11.1 1:28.44 Xorg 3666 ulrich 15 0 31368 14m 10m S 3 1.4 0:00.66 konsole 2041 root 13 -2 1648 368 272 S 0 0.0 0:02.03 ipw3945d 3737 ulrich 15 0 73192 26m 20m S 0 2.7 0:02.92 kopete 3780 ulrich 15 0 31800 11m 9148 S 0 1.1 0:04.31 knetworkmanager 16804 ulrich 15 0 2196 1016 764 R 0 0.1 0:00.03 top 1 root 15 0 744 288 240 S 0 0.0 0:01.04 init 2 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kthreadd 3 root RT -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/0 4 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.05 ksoftirqd/0 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=341073#c7 --- Comment #7 from Ulrich Derenthal 2007-11-20 03:27:54 MST --- 20M free is the "normal state", which I am not "complaining" about. "Almost empty" refers to my first output of top; here is it again: top - 12:13:59 up 16:43, 8 users, load average: 5.77, 12.85, 8.22 Tasks: 146 total, 2 running, 144 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 0.8%us, 2.6%sy, 0.0%ni, 3.6%id, 92.7%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.3%si, 0.0%st Mem: 1034768k total, 157692k used, 877076k free, 644k buffers Swap: 1574328k total, 421584k used, 1152744k free, 24720k cached Here, 877 MB out of 1 GB are free. I am not using beagle. I am using updatedb, but as you can see in my first output of top, updatedb is not running. When it is running, it never causes a system load of 5 to 12 and does not make the system unusable. But yes, I will try to kill X when this happens again. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.