https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669307 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669307#c2 --- Comment #2 from Bruce Samhaber 2011-02-10 20:13:53 UTC --- I will work on the serial port connection. Does it need to be connected to another linux machine or will a Windows XP capture file be OK? I should be able to do either, just a matter of convenience and which is easier. Kdump seems complicated and I cannot use it currently since it is not already installed and YaST does not install software anymore. See bug. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669042 In order to run kdump a full re-install would need to be done, since I do not know how to fix the above YaST bug. I will post the serial port capture once I have it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669307 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669307#c4 --- Comment #4 from Bruce Samhaber 2011-02-28 20:13:22 UTC --- Hi Jeff, Finally have minicom and dependencies installed from .rpms on this laptop to confirm that the RS232 link is working correctly to the desktop that is to collect the console log. The laptop does not have a serial port connection on it, so in the past (SUSE 10.1) I used a USB to serial port device to get a serial port which becomes device /dev/ttyUSB0 even with openSUSE 11.3. When I try to boot the Kernel with console=ttyUSB0,115200 or console=ttyS0 or console=ttyS0 the system on the laptop does not boot up. I get some initial text on a VGA screen then the green splash screen and that's it the machine halts. The Kernel paramters web site says that the default settings for console=____,bbbbpnf is 9600n8 so I changed the minicoms to that and tried with the console=ttyUSB0 but still nothing. Since the desktop was installed from the same DVD I tried this in reverse with the default baud rate and console=ttyS0 which worked the first time. I do not know what else to try other than re-install the system to see if the console starts to work then capture the first system crash. Do you have any other suggestions? Thanks Bruce. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669307 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669307#c6 --- Comment #6 from Bruce Samhaber 2011-02-28 22:39:45 UTC --- Hi Jeff, The laptop would boot with the kernel option 'console=tty0' or 'console=tty2'; the latter of which moved the console messages to the virtual console at <CTRL><ALT><F2> . Therefore, I am guessing that the kernel does not want to boot if there is no serial connection that is able to receive the data. In the case of the USB port the port might not be setup yet since USB functionality needs to be established first and in the case of the 'ttyS0' there is no cable connected. 'ttyS0 is probably connected to the docking station port; I do not have a docking station or port replicator. Is there anyway to copy the messages from the virtual port 'tty0' out to the USB serial port 'ttyUSB0' after the system has been running? Otherwise, I need a connection to the 'ttyS0' port aka COM1: Do you have any other suggestions? Someone in the developer community must have debugged kernels on laptops before. Thank you, Bruce. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669307 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669307#c8 --- Comment #8 from Bruce Samhaber 2011-03-03 19:02:09 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=417416) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=417416) Log of the first boot that hung -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669307 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669307#c10 Bruce Samhaber changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #417416|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #10 from Bruce Samhaber 2011-03-03 19:07:34 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=417417) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=417417) This is the log of the second boot immediately after one that hung. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669307 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669307#c12 --- Comment #12 from Bruce Samhaber 2011-03-03 19:54:32 UTC --- This did not change anything. A new log file will be attached. Bruce. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669307 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669307#c14 Jiri Slaby changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO CC| |jslaby@novell.com InfoProvider| |bruce.samhaber@samhaber.ca --- Comment #14 from Jiri Slaby 2011-03-10 14:55:02 UTC --- (In reply to comment #7)

Created an attachment (id=417413) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=417413) [details] Log of the first boot that hung

I don't see any crashes or anything. Doesn't only Xorg hang? What's in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old after you restart (and start new X). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669307 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669307#c16 --- Comment #16 from Bruce Samhaber 2011-03-12 07:06:22 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=418965) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=418965) Xorg.0.log.old This is the Xorg.0.log.old file from the last system hang. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669307 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669307#c17 Bruce Samhaber changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW InfoProvider|bruce.samhaber@samhaber.ca | --- Comment #17 from Bruce Samhaber 2011-03-24 13:52:11 UTC --- The system hung yesterday while booted in failsafe mode; the first time this happened. Again, there was no response to the keyboard or the mouse and there were no other external connections into the machine at the time. The Xorg.0.log.old from this crash is attached. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669307 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669307#c19 --- Comment #19 from Bruce Samhaber 2011-03-24 14:11:41 UTC --- Correction: based on the Xorg.0.log.old file the system was not booted in failsafe mode, see the fifth line [ 35.262] Kernel command line: root=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-FUJITSU_MHT2040AH_NP0JT4C2JNNF-part3 resume=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-FUJITSU_MHT2040AH_NP0JT4C2JNNF-part2 vga=0x342 The following errors were reported when Xorg starts, but then it worked fine for over two days. Unfortuneately there are no time stamps to know if any of these messages are from just before the crash. [ 35.439] (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0) [ 35.877] (EE) No input driver/identifier specified (ignoring) [ 35.883] (EE) No input driver/identifier specified (ignoring) [ 35.901] (EE) No input driver/identifier specified (ignoring) [ 35.902] (EE) ioctl EVIOCGNAME failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device [ 35.902] (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint" [ 35.903] (EE) No input driver/identifier specified (ignoring) What should I be looking for? If I do not receive anyother input then I will try to open a case with Xorg and try to load the fglrx module, whatever it is. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669307 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669307#c21 --- Comment #21 from Bruce Samhaber 2011-04-27 03:46:30 UTC --- Yes the problem does repeat with "nomodeset". One thing that is interesting is that the machine only crashes when there are many webpages or a significant number of webtabs opened. It is not running out of normal RAM with 700MB still remaining (this was tested by rebooting into Failsafe mode with the same tab set open.) [ 32.657] X.Org X Server 1.8.0 Release Date: 2010-04-02 [ 32.795] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 [ 32.795] Build Operating System: openSUSE SUSE LINUX [ 32.795] Current Operating System: Linux samhaber-nb 2.6.34.7-0.7-default #1 SMP 2010-12-13 11:13:53 +0100 i686 [ 32.795] Kernel command line: root=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-FUJITSU_MHT2040AH_NP0JT4C2JNNF-part3 resume=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-FUJITSU_MH T2040AH_NP0JT4C2JNNF-part2 vga=0x342 nomodeset console=tty0,115200n8 [ 32.795] Build Date: 19 August 2010 03:34:17PM The error messages are: og 105 % grep EE Xorg.0.log.old20110426 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. [ 32.860] (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER [ 33.013] (EE) No supported AMD display adapters were found [ 34.811] (EE) GLX error: Can not get required symbols. [ 34.993] (EE) No input driver/identifier specified (ignoring) [ 34.995] (EE) No input driver/identifier specified (ignoring) [ 35.010] (EE) No input driver/identifier specified (ignoring) [ 35.011] (EE) ioctl EVIOCGNAME failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device [ 35.011] (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint" [ 35.011] (EE) No input driver/identifier specified (ignoring) log 106 % The only difference between the normal boot and the Failsafe boot are the parameters on the boot commandline. Which others are likely to cause the problem? Thank you, Bruce. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669307 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669307#c22 Jiri Slaby changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |bruce.samhaber@samhaber.ca --- Comment #22 from Jiri Slaby 2012-02-06 13:25:20 UTC --- (In reply to comment #21)

[ 32.795] Current Operating System: Linux samhaber-nb 2.6.34.7-0.7-default

Is this still reproducible with the current kernels? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.