https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860507 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860507#c2 Dennis Olsson changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|KDE4 Applications |KDE4 Applications Product|openSUSE 12.3 |openSUSE 13.1 --- Comment #2 from Dennis Olsson 2014-05-06 20:58:01 CEST --- Updated "Product" to "openSUSE 13.1", because the same problem under KDE 4.13 also exists here!! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860507 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860507#c4 Raymond Wooninck changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |tittiatcoke@gmail.com --- Comment #4 from Raymond Wooninck 2014-05-06 19:18:45 UTC --- Dear Dennis, The issue is that we cannot reproduce your issue. The default kdmrc is setup that everybody is allowed to shutdown the system. However what I am not sure of is how perhaps other security settings are influencing this. Can you paste the content of the file /etc/sysconfig/security ? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860507 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860507#c6 --- Comment #6 from Dennis Olsson 2014-05-06 23:25:43 CEST --- As far as I understand the settings in "/etc/sysconfig/{displaymanager,security}" are only being used by SuSEconfig, which does not exist anymore. Anyway, when I am editing the "/usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc" directly, saving the changes, logging out and then checking what happens, when I try to make use of the shutdown menu in KDM, the settings in the "/etc/sysconfig" files are of no interest what so ever, right? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860507 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860507#c8 --- Comment #8 from Raymond Wooninck 2014-05-07 07:23:11 UTC --- The settings in /etc/sysconfig are used by all available display managers (e.g. GDM, KDM, etc). Indeed this is something openSUSE specific and in the past almost all KDM settings were taken from there. The thought behind this was to have a uniform setup of the display managers and no matter which display manager was in use, the same setup would apply. Around KDE 4.11, this was changed to allow the user to change more things around KDM through the standard KDE systemsettings. In order to keep equal to the GNome setup, a couple of settings remained and were taken from /etc/sysconfig. Based on this bug report, I looked into the GDM setup and there seems to have been some changes as well. At the moment I am testing a patch where also the settings with regards to password-less users and the DISPLAYMANAGER_SHUTDOWN parameter are now taken from the default KDM configuration in /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc. If everything goes fine, then this patch could land in the KDE repositories latest tomorrow. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860507 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860507#c10 --- Comment #10 from Dennis Olsson 2014-05-20 11:07:47 CEST --- (In reply to comment #8)

The settings in /etc/sysconfig are used by all available display managers (e.g. GDM, KDM, etc). Indeed this is something openSUSE specific and in the past almost all KDM settings were taken from there. ... Ahh, this might also explain, why these error messages in the system log appears:

May 19 10:34:50 sylt systemd[1]: Starting LSB: X Display Manager... May 19 10:34:50 sylt xdm[18428]: Starting service kdm..done May 19 10:34:50 sylt systemd[1]: Started LSB: X Display Manager. May 19 10:34:51 sylt kdm_config[18441]: Multiple occurrences of section [General] in /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc. Consider merging them. May 19 10:34:51 sylt kdm_config[18441]: Multiple occurrences of section [Xdmcp] in /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc. Consider merging them. May 19 10:34:51 sylt kdm_config[18441]: Multiple occurrences of section [X-*-Core] in /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc. Consider merging them. May 19 10:34:51 sylt kdm_config[18441]: Multiple occurrences of section [X-*-Greeter] in /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc. Consider merging them. May 19 10:34:51 sylt kdm_config[18441]: Multiple occurrences of key 'Language' in section [X-*-Greeter] of /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc May 19 10:34:51 sylt kdm_config[18441]: Multiple occurrences of section [X-:*-Core] in /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc. Consider merging them. May 19 10:34:51 sylt kdm_config[18441]: Multiple occurrences of section [X-:0-Core] in /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc. Consider merging them. My problem with this is that when looking through the "/usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc" file, you *cannot* find *any* multiple occurrences of anything in this file! But, of course, when (re)creating a "fake" version of the file based on the settings found in the "/etc/sysconfig/displaymanager" merged with the settings found in "/usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc", one naturally ends up with multiple occurrences, which again explains, why these very annoying error (and completely unnecessary!!) reports occur. Although I find the idea of having a "central" configuration file for display managers amendable, it is not compatible with neither good user experience/interfacing nor the configuration tools that exist for each of these display managers. It might have been true in the past that such a central configuration was "nice" (perhaps even "needed"), but this is no longer the case and especially not when the "old" ways of *unconditionally* overwriting the settings the user can set using the native configuration tools of the user's chosen display manager. Doing so completely undermines the native display manager configuration tools in ways that is completely intangible to the user, leaving the user with the impression that the native display manager configuration tools does not work. I therefore *strongly* suggest to change the "old ways" of configuring the display manager(s) to a more up-to-date and modern usage of the for the task designed native display manager configuration tools, perhaps with hints/comments in the "/etc/sysconfig/displaymanager" about how the "old ways" settings have been replaced by usage of the native tools. (In reply to comment #8)

Based on this bug report, I looked into the GDM setup and there seems to have been some changes as well. At the moment I am testing a patch where also the settings with regards to password-less users and the DISPLAYMANAGER_SHUTDOWN parameter are now taken from the default KDM configuration in /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc.

If everything goes fine, then this patch could land in the KDE repositories latest tomorrow.

Well, as far as I can see, the behaviour of KDM has not changed after having installed the lastest updates. Currently using: # rpm -qa kdm kdm-4.11.9-111.1.x86_64 taken from the repository "Main Update Repository" @ "http://download.opensuse.org/update/13.1/". -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.