http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=978454 Dominique Leuenberger changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |eich@suse.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=978454 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=978454#c1 Egbert Eich changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |dimstar@opensuse.org Flags| |needinfo?(dimstar@opensuse. | |org) --- Comment #1 from Egbert Eich --- What's your DEFAULT_WM setting in /etc/sysconfig/windowmanager? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=978454 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=978454#c3 --- Comment #3 from Dominique Leuenberger --- (In reply to Dominique Leuenberger from comment #2)

(In reply to Egbert Eich from comment #1)

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What's your DEFAULT_WM setting in /etc/sysconfig/windowmanager?

DEFAULT_WM="kde4"

(this was from an openQA run, updating an old system to TW)

Indeed, toggling this to 'plasma5' works (I though have though about that one). So the question would be how to avoid obsolete values in there on system upgrades... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=978454 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=978454#c8 --- Comment #8 from Dominique Leuenberger --- (In reply to Egbert Eich from comment #7)

So this seems to be a KDE update issue. kde4 doesn't seem to exist any more after the update. So the DEFAULT_WM is set to an invalid parameter.

Indeed - and as such the current assignee and component (Plasma 5 workspace) is correct

We do rely on this to be set correctly however.

Makes sense

We could add even more sanity checks and replace the WINDOWMANAGER with a default when it is obvious that the value in /etc/sysconfig/windowmanager is bogus to ... maybe twm?

That's cruel :) But despite all the cruelty, might be better nevertheless... it would be nice to fallback to something and inject a dialog into the session, instructing the careless user/'admin' about why it now 'looks so different to what was expected') - but I'd rather file this as a new feature, independent of this bug (which is about updating an old system to TW) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=978454 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=978454#c12 Wolfgang Bauer changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |wbauer@tmo.at --- Comment #12 from Wolfgang Bauer --- (In reply to Dr. Werner Fink from comment #9)

(In reply to Egbert Eich from comment #7)

The packages for kde4 like kdebase4-runtime are there but there is not startkde(4) to get such a session up nor a kde4.desktop ...

kde4.desktop doesn't exist any more since years... It's been renamed to kde-plasma.desktop in the KDE4 life-cycle already, part of kdebase4-session. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=978454 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=978454#c17 --- Comment #17 from Wolfgang Bauer --- (In reply to Dr. Werner Fink from comment #16)

(In reply to Wolfgang Bauer from comment #14)

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Btw, kde4.desktop was renamed to kde-plasma.desktop in 2012 already it seems, that script was added to kdebase4-session to fix bug#763142.

the quesiton rises why the aaa_base maintainers had not been informed about such a change as well ;)

I don't know. But currently there is no problem with aaa_base (and no real need to change it), because we do ship kde-plasma.desktop (which is the DEFAULT_WM in aaa_base since 2012) in plasma5-session for compatibility... There was a discussion about that on the opensuse-kde mailinglist a year ago, when the switch to Plasma5 was done in Tumbleweed: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2015-05/msg00011.html -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=978454 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=978454#c21 --- Comment #21 from Wolfgang Bauer --- (In reply to Dr. Werner Fink from comment #19)

(In reply to Wolfgang Bauer from comment #18)

OK ... no the entry looks like

## Path: Desktop/Window manager ## Description: ## Type: string(gnome,kde-plasma,kde,plasma5,lxde,xfce,twm,icewm) ## Default: kde-plasma ## Config: profiles,kde,susewm

that is even the comment now shows kde-plasma

Yes, since 2011. That's what I wrote, no? I think the script should still work as-is with the current plasma5-session, so I created https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/393654. In the future, we probably should extend it to also replace kde-plasma with the DEFAULT_WM from /var/adm/fillup-templates/sysconfig.windowmanager, but that would need a change to aaa_base to set the default to plasma5 first. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=978454 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=978454#c26 Wolfgang Bauer changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #26 from Wolfgang Bauer --- The updated plasma5-session is in Tumbleweed meanwhile, so I think we can close this... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.