[Bug 329581] New: Can't install 10.3 on Dell Optiplex GX260

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28 Sep 2007 28 Sep '07

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581 Summary: Can't install 10.3 on Dell Optiplex GX260 Product: openSUSE 10.3 Version: Final Platform: Other OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Blocker Priority: P5 - None Component: Installation AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: vrb@novell.com QAContact: jsrain@novell.com Found By: IS&T Can't install 10.3 on Dell Optiplex GX260. Symptom: After successful network configuration and test, it displays the release notes. Right after that, the screen flashes a few times and then goes blank. I'd be glad to provide log files, but not sure how since the screen is blank. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 329581] Can't install 10.3 on Dell Optiplex GX260

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c1 --- Comment #1 from Vance Baarda 2007-09-28 18:23:22 MST --- I switched to tty2 and I have a shell. Here's some info: (--) PCI:*(0:2:0) Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device rev 1, Mem @ 0xe8000000/27, 0xff680000/19 (II) VESA(0): Monitor name: SDM-S95D/F/N # ps -efw|grep X root 4152 3592 0 16:03 tty7 00:00:01 Xorg -deferglyphs 16 vt07 root 4222 4160 0 16:03 tty1 00:00:00 /usr/lib/X11/fvwm2/FvwmCommandS 7 4 none 0 8 # /usr/sbin/hwinfo --gfxcard 12: PCI 02.0: 0300 VGA compatible controller (VGA) [Created at pci.301] UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_2562 Unique ID: _Znp.4MB3MfGfow3 SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0 SysFS BusID: 0000:00:02.0 Hardware Class: graphics card Model: "Dell i845" Vendor: pci 0x8086 "Intel Corporation" Device: pci 0x2562 "i845" SubVendor: pci 0x1028 "Dell" SubDevice: pci 0x0126 Revision: 0x01 Driver: "i810_smbus" Driver Modules: "i2c_i810" Memory Range: 0xe8000000-0xefffffff (rw,prefetchable) Memory Range: 0xff680000-0xff6fffff (rw,non-prefetchable) IRQ: 9 (1 event) I/O Ports: 0x3c0-0x3df (rw) Module Alias: "pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00" Driver Info #0: XFree86 v4 Server Module: intel Driver Info #1: XFree86 v4 Server Module: intel 3D Support: yes Extensions: dri Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Primary display adapter: #12 I can provide any log files you need. Just let me know. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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1 Oct 1 Oct

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New subject: [Bug 329581] Can't install 10.3 on Dell Optiplex GX260

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581 Stephan Kulow changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com |sndirsch@novell.com Severity|Blocker |Critical Component|Installation |X.Org QAContact|jsrain@novell.com |xorg-maintainer-bugs@forge.provo.novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c2 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |vrb@novell.com --- Comment #2 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-01 08:57:52 MST --- Could you try to create a "i810" driver based configuration by running "sax2 -r -m 0=i810"? Does this configuration work? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c3 Vance Baarda changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|vrb@novell.com | --- Comment #3 from Vance Baarda 2007-10-01 09:46:03 MST --- (In reply to comment #2 from Stefan Dirsch)

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Could you try to create a "i810" driver based configuration by running "sax2 -r -m 0=i810"? Does this configuration work?

I killed the "Xorg -deferglyphs 16 vt07" process, and the machine finished booting (although the graphics screen is blank). Then I went to init level 3 and ran the sax2 command you suggested. The symptoms are the same as during the initial installation. The graphics screen is blank. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c4 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |vrb@novell.com --- Comment #4 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-01 11:47:25 MST --- Ok. Next to try is "sax2 -r -m 0=fbdev". -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c5 Vance Baarda changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|vrb@novell.com | --- Comment #5 from Vance Baarda 2007-10-01 12:08:02 MST --- vrb1:~ # sax2 -r -m 0=fbdev SaX: initializing please wait... SaX: your current configuration will not be read in SaX: no X-Server is running SaX: will start own server if needed SaX: sorry could not open /dev/fb0... abort SaX: something went wrong while X was called with -probeonly SaX: try to call 'sax2 -p' and select a single device ? abort -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c6 --- Comment #6 from Vance Baarda 2007-10-01 12:34:41 MST --- Hmm -- I rebooted the machine and it said "Your installation was not successful -- would you like to try again?" I answered no, and the machine continued to boot. Now, sax2 -r -m 0=i810 works fine and I now have a working graphics system. Weird. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c7 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED --- Comment #7 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-01 12:36:43 MST --- Indeed. This is weird. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 329581] Can't install 10.3 on Dell Optiplex GX260

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c8 --- Comment #8 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-02 14:44:19 MST --- I think I even have this machine. I'll try to reproduce. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c9 --- Comment #9 from Vance Baarda 2007-10-02 15:02:16 MST --- OK, cool. I chose gnome, in case that makes a difference. I think I chose defaults for most everything else. I chose the default set of packages. Let me know if you can't reproduce it and I'll try again, this time keeping track of all my choices. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c10 --- Comment #10 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-04 09:20:29 MST --- I can reproduce this issue (black screen, monitor out of sync, 44 kHz/55 Hz, 1152x768 is used by default), but can workaround it by setting PreferredMode option to 1280x1024. I'll attach xorg.conf and XOrg.0.log for reference. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c11 --- Comment #11 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-04 09:22:32 MST --- Created an attachment (id=176364) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=176364) xorg.conf -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c12 --- Comment #12 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-04 09:22:49 MST --- Created an attachment (id=176365) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=176365) Xorg.0.log -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c13 --- Comment #13 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-04 09:29:44 MST --- After setting PreferredMode in xorg.conf to "1280x1024" I get a working mode. in 1280x1024 (64 kHz/60 Hz). --- /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old +++ /var/log/Xorg.0.log @@ -475,3 +476,3 @@ (II) intel(0): Output VGA connected -(II) intel(0): Output VGA using initial mode 1152x768 +(II) intel(0): Output VGA using initial mode 1280x1024 (II) intel(0): detected 128 kB GTT. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c14 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |vrb@novell.com --- Comment #14 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-04 09:33:28 MST --- So could you add this option to your initial xorg.conf created during installation? If this helps this is another duplicate of Bug #257746. Please also attach your /etc/X11/xorg.conf. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c15 --- Comment #15 from Vance Baarda 2007-10-04 09:40:54 MST --- At what point during the install should I do this? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c16 --- Comment #16 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-04 09:44:23 MST --- Just finish installation and at the time you get a black screen either switch to console 1 with Ctrl-Alt-F1 (worked for me) or reboot into runlevel 3 by specifying "3" on the boot kernel commandline. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c17 --- Comment #17 from Vance Baarda 2007-10-04 09:55:46 MST --- Installing system now. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c18 Vance Baarda changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|vrb@novell.com | --- Comment #18 from Vance Baarda 2007-10-04 11:44:36 MST --- During this installation, the black screen did not happen -- very weird. The only thing different (I think) is that the first install was via PXE, the second via a local DVD. I'll attach the original xorg.conf file and the Xorg.0.log file. One problem is here: Section "Monitor" HorizSync 31-48 Identifier "Monitor[0]" ModelName "1024X768@60HZ" Option "DPMS" VendorName "--> VESA" VertRefresh 50-60 UseModes "Modes[0]" Option "PreferredMode" "1280x1024" EndSection The monitor's correct data: HorizSync 28-80 VertRefresh 48-75 Monitor is a Sony SDM-S95, max res is 1280x1024. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c19 --- Comment #19 from Vance Baarda 2007-10-04 11:46:05 MST --- Created an attachment (id=176411) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=176411) vrb's xorg.conf -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c20 --- Comment #20 from Vance Baarda 2007-10-04 11:47:14 MST --- Created an attachment (id=176412) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=176412) vrb's Xorg.0.log -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c21 --- Comment #21 from Vance Baarda 2007-10-04 12:10:58 MST --- Maybe this is the cause, or part of the cause: # hwinfo --monitor 24: None 00.0: 10000 Monitor [Created at fb.71] Unique ID: rdCR.EY_qmtb9YY0 Hardware Class: monitor Model: "Generic Monitor" Vendor: "Generic" Device: "Monitor" Resolution: 1024x768@76Hz Driver Info #0: Max. Resolution: 1024x768 Vert. Sync Range: 50-90 Hz Hor. Sync Range: 31-61 kHz Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown The EDID from the monitor is correct: (II) intel(0): Manufacturer: SNY Model: 4100 Serial#: 16843009 (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "SNY", prod id 16640 (II) intel(0): Monitor name: SDM-S95D/F/N (II) intel(0): Supported VESA Video Modes: (II) intel(0): 720x400@70Hz .. (II) intel(0): 1280x1024@75Hz (II) intel(0): Ranges: V min: 48 V max: 75 Hz, H min: 28 H max: 81 kHz, PixClock max 140 MHz Seems as if hwinfo ought to use the EDID.... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c22 --- Comment #22 from Felix Miata 2007-10-04 12:55:54 MST --- (In reply to comment #13 from Stefan Dirsch)

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-(II) intel(0): Output VGA using initial mode 1152x768

Where does a 1.5:1 aspect ratio mode come from? Standard display modes are either 1.25:1 (SXGA & QSXGA), 1.333:1 (standard CRT modes), 1.6:1 (wide panel computer displays) or 1.778:1 (HDTV screens). http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/displays.html -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c23 --- Comment #23 from Vance Baarda 2007-10-04 13:31:58 MST --- This works great: Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor[0]" VendorName "Sony" ModelName "SDM-S95D/F/N" Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen[0]" Device "Device[0]" Monitor "Monitor[0]" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" EndSubSection EndSection In other words, since I removed the (bogus) sync data from the monitor section, it works fine. Even works with Xgl/Compiz :-) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c24 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED Resolution| |WORKSFORME --- Comment #24 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-04 13:33:19 MST --- PXE means in your case that you didn't enable the framebuffer. See also comment #5. This is a bad idea. I'm therefore closing this one as WORKSFORME. Your monitor was not detected and got the default values for a Generic monitor.

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(In reply to comment #13 from Stefan Dirsch) -(II) intel(0): Output VGA using initial mode 1152x768 Where does a 1.5:1 aspect ratio mode come from? Please don't ask. It's some magic in RANDR 1.2 code, which takes some strange assumptions. This issue is not part of this bugreport.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c25 Vance Baarda changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|Critical |Normal Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|WORKSFORME | --- Comment #25 from Vance Baarda 2007-10-04 13:51:32 MST --- (In reply to comment #24 from Stefan Dirsch)

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PXE means in your case that you didn't enable the framebuffer.

What does this mean? How did I not enable the framebuffer? If this is a bad idea, why allow it?

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See also comment #5. This is a bad idea. I'm therefore closing this one as WORKSFORME.

Your monitor was not detected and got the default values for a Generic monitor.

Hmm, so how do we get the system to detect this monitor? Maybe this bug needs to move to the hwinfo package? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c26 --- Comment #26 from Vance Baarda 2007-10-04 14:00:01 MST --- If you like, I can close this again and open a new bug for hwinfo... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c27 --- Comment #27 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-04 15:14:56 MST --- (In reply to comment #25 from Vance Baarda)

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PXE means in your case that you didn't enable the framebuffer.

What does this mean? How did I not enable the framebuffer? If this is a bad idea, why allow it?

I don't know why, but it seems everbody who is using PXE boot does not specify the vga=0xXXX parameter on the kernel commandline, although nowadays really any monitor is capable of displaying a resolution of 1024x768. So why not simply specifying vga=0x317 by default?!? The result when not doing so is the use of vesa driver (instead of fbdev), which is not recommended to use at all and obviously has all kind of different problems (it seems especially when intel driver is started as second Xserver for testing purposes during installation).

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Your monitor was not detected and got the default values for a Generic monitor.

Hmm, so how do we get the system to detect this monitor? Maybe this bug needs to move to the hwinfo package?

You can try, but some monitors simply cannot be detected due to broken DDC or providing wrong data. In this case you need to specify the correct values. AFAIK this is possible during the installation as well. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c28 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |vrb@novell.com --- Comment #28 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-04 15:18:07 MST --- What are the remaining issues? Otherwise I would propose to close the bugreport as WORKSFORME, since I didn't see a problem with a standard installation with kernel framebuffer active and having the monitor configured correctly already during installation. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c29 --- Comment #29 from Vance Baarda 2007-10-04 15:30:09 MST --- (In reply to comment #27 from Stefan Dirsch)

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PXE means in your case that you didn't enable the framebuffer.

What does this mean? How did I not enable the framebuffer? If this is a bad idea, why allow it?

I don't know why, but it seems everbody who is using PXE boot does not specify the vga=0xXXX parameter on the kernel commandline, although nowadays really any monitor is capable of displaying a resolution of 1024x768. So why not simply specifying vga=0x317 by default?!? The result when not doing so is the use of vesa driver (instead of fbdev), which is not recommended to use at all and obviously has all kind of different problems (it seems especially when intel driver is started as second Xserver for testing purposes during installation).

Thanks for all this good info. You have jogged my memory -- I did indeed choose VESA on the initial install screen. I didn't know this was a bad idea. Maybe we shouldn't offer it as a choice. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c30 --- Comment #30 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-04 15:35:31 MST ---

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Thanks for all this good info. You have jogged my memory -- I did indeed choose VESA on the initial install screen. I didn't know this was a bad idea. Maybe we shouldn't offer it as a choice. There is no other choice for a graphical installation, if kernel framebuffer has been disabled.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c31 --- Comment #31 from Felix Miata 2007-10-04 15:38:12 MST --- (In reply to comment #27 from Stefan Dirsch)

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nowadays really any monitor is capable of displaying a resolution of 1024x768

Is any Matrox card capable of any common fb mode higher than 0x314 (800x600) on the ttys (natch, up to at least 2048x1536 in X)? vga=0x317, vga=791, vga=0x31a etc on any of mine gets rejected. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 329581] Can't install 10.3 on Dell Optiplex GX260

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c32 --- Comment #32 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-04 15:47:12 MST --- It is my understanding that at least for VBE 2.0 compliant graphics cards the modes up to 1024x768 are standardized. Of which kind of prehistorical Matrox card are you talking here? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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21:57

New subject: [Bug 329581] Can't install 10.3 on Dell Optiplex GX260

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c33 --- Comment #33 from Vance Baarda 2007-10-04 15:57:30 MST --- (In reply to comment #28 from Stefan Dirsch)

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What are the remaining issues?

1) Choosing VESA on first install screen caused installation to fail. (Intel i845) 2) We do not detect parameters for Sony SDM-S95D, which causes X to use low resolution. The first problem is pretty serious -- the installation stops with a black screen and no indication of what to do next. The second one is not as bad, but users should not need to enter sync rates manually, especially when the EDID from the monitor is correct. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 329581] Can't install 10.3 on Dell Optiplex GX260

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c34 Vance Baarda changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |REOPENED Info Provider|vrb@novell.com | --- Comment #34 from Vance Baarda 2007-10-04 15:57:58 MST --- Forgot to change status. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 329581] Can't install 10.3 on Dell Optiplex GX260

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c35 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |ASSIGNED --- Comment #35 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-04 16:12:20 MST ---

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1) Choosing VESA on first install screen caused installation to fail. (Intel i845) The first problem is pretty serious -- the installation stops with a black screen and no indication of what to do next.

Obviously only happens with broken PXE installations (missing vga parameter). Can't this be finally fixed by the admin?

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2) We do not detect parameters for Sony SDM-S95D, which causes X to use low resolution. The second one is not as bad, but users should not need to enter sync rates manually, especially when the EDID from the monitor is correct.

Open a separate bugreport for this against hwinfo. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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22:35

New subject: [Bug 329581] Can't install 10.3 on Dell Optiplex GX260

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c36 Vance Baarda changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |vrb@novell.com --- Comment #36 from Vance Baarda 2007-10-04 16:35:35 MST --- (In reply to comment #35 from Stefan Dirsch)

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1) Choosing VESA on first install screen caused installation to fail. (Intel i845) The first problem is pretty serious -- the installation stops with a black screen and no indication of what to do next.

Obviously only happens with broken PXE installations (missing vga parameter). Can't this be finally fixed by the admin?

I'll see whether I can reproduce this with a local DVD install.

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2) We do not detect parameters for Sony SDM-S95D, which causes X to use low resolution. The second one is not as bad, but users should not need to enter sync rates manually, especially when the EDID from the monitor is correct.

Open a separate bugreport for this against hwinfo.

Will do -- thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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22:42

New subject: [Bug 329581] Can't install 10.3 on Dell Optiplex GX260

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Obviously only happens with broken PXE installations (missing vga parameter). Can't this be finally fixed by the admin? I'll see whether I can reproduce this with a local DVD install. Not sure what you want to reproduce. A local DVD install sets the vga

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c37 --- Comment #37 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-04 16:42:16 MST --- parameter, so fbdev will be in use and you already told me that you can't reproduce the problem with a local DVD install. Of course you can also unset the vga parameter with a local DVD install and then run into the same problem as with the PXE installation. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 329581] Can't install 10.3 on Dell Optiplex GX260

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c38 --- Comment #38 from Vance Baarda 2007-10-04 16:59:08 MST --- (In reply to comment #37 from Stefan Dirsch)

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Obviously only happens with broken PXE installations (missing vga parameter). Can't this be finally fixed by the admin? I'll see whether I can reproduce this with a local DVD install. Not sure what you want to reproduce. A local DVD install sets the vga parameter, so fbdev will be in use and you already told me that you can't reproduce the problem with a local DVD install.

With my network install, I chose VESA. With my local DVD install, I didn't change the video setting -- I left it at 1024x768. (I know -- bad me. I didn't remember what I had done on that first install screen.) This time, I'm trying a local DVD install after switching video to VESA using the drop-down list on the first install screen.

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Of course you can also unset the vga parameter with a local DVD install and then run into the same problem as with the PXE installation.

I'm not unsetting any params -- I'm just using VESA instead of 1024x768. Install is progressing at the moment. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 329581] Can't install 10.3 on Dell Optiplex GX260

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c39 --- Comment #39 from Felix Miata 2007-10-04 17:16:40 MST --- (In reply to comment #32 from Stefan Dirsch)

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It is my understanding that at least for VBE 2.0 compliant graphics cards the modes up to 1024x768 are standardized. Of which kind of prehistorical Matrox card are you talking here?

All of them. They were way ahead of the pack when they were new, and currently very usable whether PCI or AGP in newer systems with no silly 3D requirement. e.g. Mystique, Millenium, G200, G400, G450 and maybe even newer. On my 20+ functional machines, not counting those with motherboard video, only two have video cards designed and manufactured this century, and neither of those are in systems that see much use. When I run out of video cards, I goto eBay for Tseng or Matrox for cheap. I know they work when I need SVGA text in DOS, or to simply work in Linux. Just try and find DOS support info for any card designed in the last 10 years. :-p OTOH, just look at the bug traffic from people trying to use NVidia, ATI & Intel video. Sheesh, who needs that aggravation? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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23:31

New subject: [Bug 329581] Can't install 10.3 on Dell Optiplex GX260

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c40 Vance Baarda changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|vrb@novell.com | --- Comment #40 from Vance Baarda 2007-10-04 17:31:52 MST --- OK, installing from a local DVD, I can reproduce the original problem (comment 0) by choosing VESA instead of 1024x768 on the first install screen. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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23:33

New subject: [Bug 329581] Dell Optiplex GX260: choosing VESA on first install screen leads to failed install

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581 Vance Baarda changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|Can't install 10.3 on Dell Optiplex GX260 |Dell Optiplex GX260: choosing VESA on first | |install screen leads to failed install -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 329581] Dell Optiplex GX260: choosing VESA on first install screen leads to failed install

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c41 --- Comment #41 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-04 22:59:35 MST --- I can see if I can reproduce this issue, but I don't think I can fix it. Your PXE installation setup should really be fixed by the admin. This was not a joke. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 329581] Dell Optiplex GX260: choosing VESA on first install screen leads to failed install

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c42 --- Comment #42 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-05 03:26:25 MST ---

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Your PXE installation setup should really be fixed by the admin. This was not a joke. http://en.opensuse.org/SuSE_install_with_PXE_boot#Text_based_YaST_Loads_Inst...

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New subject: [Bug 329581] vesa: VT switching --> black screen (Dell Optiplex GX260: intel 845G)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c43 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|Dell Optiplex GX260: choosing VESA on first |vesa: VT switching --> black screen (Dell |install screen leads to failed install |Optiplex GX260: intel 845G) --- Comment #43 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-05 03:49:17 MST --- Ok. I can reproduce the problem. What happens is that the installer switches to text console before starting a test Xserver (for gathering some important informations) with the native driver in place (intel in this case). Unfortunately when switching back to vesa X driver console you only get a black screen, which is what you've seen. At least switching back to text console works. So VT switching with vesa driver is just broken. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 329581] vesa: VT switching --> black screen (Dell Optiplex GX260: intel 845G)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c44 --- Comment #44 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-05 07:37:29 MST --- This vesa driver issue does nor occur on an ATI Radeon X1300 card neither on an Intel 915G gfx chip. It might even be VBIOS specific to this one-and-only Dell machine. I'm *very* reluctant to investigate this issue any further ... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 329581] vesa: VT switching --> black screen (only intel 845G)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c45 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX Summary|vesa: VT switching --> black screen (Dell |vesa: VT switching --> black screen (only intel |Optiplex GX260: intel 845G) |845G) --- Comment #45 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-05 09:01:19 MST --- Also reproducable on a FSC/845G. Still a WONTFIX for me. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 329581] vesa: VT switching --> black screen (only intel 845G)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c46 --- Comment #46 from Vance Baarda 2007-10-05 11:18:16 MST --- Stefan: Thanks for the research. How about we document this somewhere? Especially your comment 27. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 329581] vesa: VT switching --> black screen (only intel 845G)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c47 --- Comment #47 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-05 12:07:56 MST --- It's already documented (see comment #42). If you plan to ceritify the machine for SLES add the information that kernel framebuffer needs to be enabled with the vga kernel parameter. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 329581] vesa: VT switching --> black screen (only intel 845G)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c48 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mrmazda@ij.net --- Comment #48 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-06 04:20:51 MST --- *** Bug 328042 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328042 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 329581] vesa: VT switching --> black screen (only intel 845G)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c49 --- Comment #49 from Felix Miata 2007-10-06 09:36:20 MST --- I'm missing how 845G users are supposed to get around this problem. None of the common vga= params like 788 or 0x31a work. The only one that isn't broken on any Intel video I've used is 0x120, and as bug 328042 showed 4 days before this bug got filed, 0x120 has the black screen problem too. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 329581] vesa: VT switching --> black screen (only intel 845G)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c50 --- Comment #50 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-06 10:11:58 MST --- I'll check on both 845G machines I have whether 0x317 (1024x768@16bpp) works. If I should forget about this, please remind me on monday. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 329581] vesa: VT switching --> black screen (only intel 845G)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c51 --- Comment #51 from Felix Miata 2007-10-08 13:52:56 MST --- (In reply to comment #50 from Stefan Dirsch)

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I'll check on both 845G machines I have whether 0x317 (1024x768@16bpp) works. If I should forget about this, please remind me on monday.

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New subject: [Bug 329581] vesa: VT switching --> black screen (only intel 845G)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c52 --- Comment #52 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-09 10:27:06 MST --- 0x317 works fine on FSC/845G and Dell Optiplex GX260 (845G). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 329581] vesa: VT switching --> black screen (only intel 845G)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c53 --- Comment #53 from Felix Miata 2007-10-09 19:44:16 MST --- On Intel D845GLVA, 0x317 always gave me "You Passed an undefined mode number. Press <RETURN> to see video modes available, <SPACE> to continue or wait 30 secs". So, having read comment 52, I dug into Intel's web site, found and installed a new BIOS (old 2003, new 2006), and as a result all the standard framebuffer modes I've tried so far work (0x314, 0x317, 794). It will be interesting to see if this impacts other Intel driver and randr bugs. Oh, and now vga=ask fails by blanking display with out of scan range message if SCAN is answered in response to <RETURN>. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 329581] vesa: VT switching --> black screen (only intel 845G)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581 User mrmazda@ij.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c54 --- Comment #54 from Felix Miata 2008-01-25 20:39:27 MST --- (In reply to comment #52 from Stefan Dirsch)

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0x317 works fine on FSC/845G and Dell Optiplex GX260 (845G).

vga=0x317 does not work fine on my Dell Optiplex GX260 (845G) with latest available BIOS Revision A09. Attempting to use it gives "Undefined video mode number: 317". From the resulting SCAN selecting VESA mode 7 0309 132x25 puts the display to sleep. My display has non-functional DDC. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 329581] vesa: VT switching --> black screen (only intel 845G)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581 User mrmazda@ij.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c55 --- Comment #55 from Felix Miata 2008-01-25 20:40:19 MST --- Forgot to mention this is with today's 11.0 Factory mirror. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 329581] vesa: VT switching --> black screen (only intel 845G)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581 User mrmazda@ij.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329581#c56 --- Comment #56 from Felix Miata 2008-01-26 12:05:53 MST --- I solved the comment 54 video mode problem by changing a system BIOS setting, Onboard Video Buffer, from 1 to 8. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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