https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865 User cd@securityfocus.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865#c1 --- Comment #1 from C D 2007-12-10 19:14:44 MST --- Has anyone seen this yet? Thanks -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865 User mskibbe@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865#c3 Michael Skibbe changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mskibbe@novell.com --- Comment #3 from Michael Skibbe 2008-01-09 06:40:17 MST --- CD: do you use networkmanager? peter: i have such a bug for ntp because $network is set then networkmanager is started - no information about interfaces!! it's possible that no interface is up then $network is set and the apache init script is running -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865 User cd@securityfocus.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865#c5 --- Comment #5 from C D 2008-01-10 18:02:16 MST --- In boot.msg, it looks like the system is setting up the network interfaces asynchronously. lo and eth0 don't come up until after it attempts to start apache2: Setting up network interfaces: Starting httpd2 (prefork) (99)Cannot assign requested address: make_sock: could not bind to address 10.160.20.248:80 no listening sockets available, shutting down [...] lo lo IP address: 127.0.0.1/8 [...] eth0 device: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Copper) (rev 01) eth0 IP address: 10.160.20.248/24 [..etc...] -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865 User cd@securityfocus.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865#c7 --- Comment #7 from C D 2008-02-20 18:03:56 MST --- The ifservices trick works for now. Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865 User mt@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865#c11 Marius Tomaschewski changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |cd@securityfocus.com Platform|x86 |All --- Comment #11 from Marius Tomaschewski 2008-03-05 02:37:18 MST --- (In reply to comment #7 from C D)

The ifservices trick works for now. Thanks.

OK, can you start this command: (cd /etc/init.d && ls -1 rc?.d/* | sort) > /tmp/rc-link.list and attach the /tmp/rc-link.list and /etc/init.d/.depend.start files? It seems, that some of the links was modified manually (or using some script adding them with ln -s) and the .depend.start file (see also the startpar(8) manual page) does not reflect the start order any more. To reset to the default start/stop order of init-script the command "insserv -d" can be used. From insserv manual page: "[...] -d, --default Use default runlevels a defined in the scripts. This may restore an edited runlevel link scheme. [...] [[/]path/to/init.d/] Relative or absolute path to the init scripts base directory. For the SuSE Linux boot concept, this defaults to /etc/init.d/ in compliance with the LSB specification. In this case insserv does not add or remove a script to the runlevels declared in the script headers, but may re-order the runlevels if the order of the currently enabled scripts has changed (see option -d). Note that if a relative path is used insserv has to be called from the root directory. [...]" Note that every change in the LSB headers of the scripts its self always requires the remove and re-install of the script. This because insserv does not overwrite existing links as they can be done by e.g. the runlevel editor. Only the option -d (for default) will always overwrite any changes in the link scheme. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865 User support@microtechniques.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865#c13 --- Comment #13 from Don Hughes 2008-03-07 08:20:36 MST --- I added the bug marked as a duplicate of this one. I also have additional named interfaces All links added and maintained by yast2 runlevel editor Was working prior to recent upgrade to 10.3 Sometimes instead of starting early, there is no attempt to start Apache at all. I have had similar problems with other packages that depend on the network being up such as postfix, spamassassin (spamd), and snort -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865 User locilka@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865#c15 Lukas Ocilka changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|locilka@novell.com |mt@novell.com --- Comment #15 from Lukas Ocilka 2008-03-10 02:51:21 MST --- I don't see any reason why YaST Runlevel should be to blame: 1.) I don't see any mention about YaST and/or YaST Runlevel 2.) YaST Runlevel uses always insserv script to tune/enable/disable a particular service. http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/yast/trunk/yast2/library/runlevel/src/Service.yc... See: * serviceDisable: /sbin/insserv -r * Adjust "default", "enable": /sbin/insserv -d * Finetune: /sbin/insserv -f -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865 User cd@securityfocus.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865#c17 --- Comment #17 from C D 2008-03-11 15:00:02 MST --- Created an attachment (id=200452) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=200452) depend.start file -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865 User cd@securityfocus.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865#c19 --- Comment #19 from C D 2008-03-11 15:01:40 MST --- Here are the rc-link.list and .depend.start files. I didn't modify any of the links manually, or edit the scripts themselves at all. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865 Dr. Werner Fink changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #200452|application/octet-stream |text/plain mime type| | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865 User werner@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865#c20 Dr. Werner Fink changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|Normal |Minor Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |cd@securityfocus.com --- Comment #20 from Dr. Werner Fink 2008-03-17 10:13:44 MST --- The files /etc/init.d/apache2 and /etc/insserv.conf are missed. Btw: accordingly to the package apache2 the LSB header should look like # Provides: apache2 httpd2 # Required-Start: $local_fs $remote_fs $network # X-UnitedLinux-Should-Start: $named $time postgresql sendmail mysql ypclient dhcp radiusd # Required-Stop: $local_fs $remote_fs $network # X-UnitedLinux-Should-Stop: # Default-Start: 3 5 # Default-Stop: 0 1 2 6 # Short-Description: Apache 2.2 httpd # Description: Start the httpd daemon Apache now the `$network' is defined in /etc/insserv.conf with # # Low level networking (ethernet card) # $network network as the attachment #200452 shows, there is no dependcy set in /etc/init.d/.depend.start ... I've just run a test: boole:werner # rpm -Uhv /work/CDs/all/full-10.2-i386/suse/i586/apache2.rpm --nodeps boole:werner # grep ^apache2 /etc/init.d/.depend.start apache2: nfs network ntp sendmail now where can I find this dependcy in your attachment #200452? It should be there. Does the dependcy occurs if you call insserv twice the time after apache2 is installed? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865 User cd@securityfocus.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865#c22 --- Comment #22 from C D 2008-03-17 14:11:16 MST --- Created an attachment (id=202650) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=202650) /etc/init.d/apache2 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865 User support@microtechniques.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865#c24 --- Comment #24 from Don Hughes 2008-03-17 14:18:11 MST --- In bug 367065 which was closed as a dup of this one I posted the boot log of a system that runs Apache2. The network was in my .depend.start, but more to the point, it was not just a matter of apache starting early (as it frequently would and as is mentioned in this report), but that there was no record of any attempt to start it at all, so it seems that there is more to this than just a relationship missing from .depend.start. If there is a correct link in rc3.d (S12apache2) then shouldn't there be an attempt to start it regardless of what was or was not in .depend.start? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865 User werner@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865#c26 --- Comment #26 from Dr. Werner Fink 2008-03-18 04:43:05 MST --- Created an attachment (id=202733) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=202733) insserv-1.09.0-46.1.x86_64.rpm changed insserv 1.09.0 for x86_64 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865 User support@microtechniques.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865#c28 --- Comment #28 from Don Hughes 2008-03-18 06:21:27 MST --- Created an attachment (id=202742) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=202742) original .depend.start -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865 User support@microtechniques.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865#c30 --- Comment #30 from Don Hughes 2008-03-18 06:24:21 MST --- Dr. Fink I ran the provided insserv and the resulting .depend.start was different from the existing one. Both are attached. However, I then renamed my modified apache startup file to apache.notused and restored the original apache file from the distribution and reran insserv. I got an error message about 'services already provided' which I have seen occationally in the past. Inspecting the .depend.start file I see that apache.notused is now listed, not apache and that at least one service is listed multiple times. I must admit that my init.d directory is littered with unused files -- most from years of upgrades, some examples, some created/saved by rpm, some for testing, some for packages no longer used or only used occasionally and started manually. I never really bothered about them, only worrying that the links in the rc?.d directories were correct. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865 User werner@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865#c31 --- Comment #31 from Dr. Werner Fink 2008-03-18 07:07:31 MST --- You can not have two files in /etc/init.d/ with the same Provides line in their LSB headers. Compare the first few lines of apache.notused with that of apache its self. Simply do `grep Provides: /etc/init.d/apache*' as you can see insserv does not like to see the same provides several times. There are extensions which will be ignored by insserv, see the manual page I've written (`man insserv', section NOTE). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865 User cd@securityfocus.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865#c33 --- Comment #33 from C D 2008-03-19 16:37:12 MST --- Thanks, everyone. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865 Dr. Werner Fink changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865 User coolo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343865#c39 Stephan Kulow changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|coolo@novell.com | --- Comment #39 from Stephan Kulow 2008-05-06 12:39:07 MST --- I'm undecided. On one hand it's likely that this affects quite some servers and on the other hand, it's pretty easy to notice and work around. And _everyone_ would have to download it even if it "only" affects specific setups. So I'm neutral and if you want to leave it unreleased, you decide. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.