[Bug 232086] New: installation hang (probably caused by presence of IOMEGA IDE ZIP drive)
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=232086 Summary: installation hang (probably caused by presence of IOMEGA IDE ZIP drive) Product: openSUSE 10.2 Version: Final Platform: i686 OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Installation AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: sbrabec@novell.com QAContact: jsrain@novell.com After initial reboot (after installing all packages from DVD), installtion hangs. Two minute hangs appear during initial reboot. Then YaST X session appears and finally it stops forever. I suspect that the waiting forever is caused by illegal or never returning attempts to IOMEGA ZIP drive. During this hang following text appears in console: hdb: lost interrupt hdb: status error: status=0x00 { } ide: failed opcode was: unknown ide-floppy: stange, packet command initiated yet DRQ isn't asserted This appears several times during boot, then several times during YaST initialization of catalogs. I am not able to attach logs - all commands hang, but system is still alive - I can switch virtual consoles Installation of SuSE Linux 10.1 completed successfully on this machine. ZIP drive has no medium inserted. Configuration of my IDE: hda: Hard disc hdb: IOMEGA ZIP 100 IDE (hda and hdb are on the same cable) hdc: DVD-RW/RAM hdd: CD-RW/MRW (hdc and hdd are on the same cable) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=232086 mhorvath@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |sbrabec@novell.com ------- Comment #1 from mhorvath@novell.com 2007-01-05 10:53 MST ------- Could you please try to copy the logs using a live cd? The yast logs and /var/log/messages might be useful. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=232086 sbrabec@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|sbrabec@novell.com | ------- Comment #2 from sbrabec@novell.com 2007-01-10 05:30 MST ------- Emergency boot from openSUSE 10.2 DVD seems to hang (at least for several minutes), too, during "Starting udevd..." after loading the image. It seems, that "rmmod ide-floppy" and disabling this module helps, so it may be a kernel bug. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=232086 mhorvath@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team- |kernel-maintainers@forge.provo.novell.com |screening@forge.provo.novell| |.com | Status|ASSIGNED |NEW -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=232086 lmb@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|kernel- |teheo@novell.com |maintainers@forge.provo.nove| |ll.com | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=232086 teheo@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |sbrabec@novell.com ------- Comment #3 from teheo@novell.com 2007-01-15 02:54 MST ------- ZIP drive is pretty ancient at this point (or is it some new incarnation?) and this kind of problem is not particularly easy to debug without direct access to hardware. Also, IDE layer is becoming obsolete, so I'm not very enthusiastic about fixing ide-floppy for ZIP drive. But, I wanna know how the new libata stack works with it and am willing to and can fix if libata doesn't work. So, please... Install the system with the ZIP drive detached. After installing, switch the driver to libata one. e.g. if your driver is currently driver/ide/piix.ko, switch to drivers/ata/ata_piix.ko. This will give you the new driver stack. After getting this done, reconnect the ZIP drive and see what happens. Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=232086 ------- Comment #4 from teheo@novell.com 2007-01-15 02:56 MST ------- Ah.. one more note. Switching to libata driver makes your drive appear as /dev/sdX instead of /dev/sdX. As long as you mount filesystems by LABEL this shouldn't be a problem. Also, please keep in mind that changing driver for rootfs also requires regenerating initrd image. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=232086 ------- Comment #5 from sbrabec@novell.com 2007-01-15 04:29 MST ------- It is a NEC incarnation of IOMEGA IDE ZIP drive; manufactured in 2001. It is possible to complete installation system even in emergency mode and I did so. I will test the driver mentioned above. If it can help to you, I can even unmount the drive and attach it to an accessible machine. There is several special tools depending on access layer, which may require update: - "low level" formatting - media locking and unlocking using ziptool (the same can be used for JAZ drives) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=232086 sbrabec@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|sbrabec@novell.com | ------- Comment #6 from sbrabec@novell.com 2007-01-16 02:08 MST ------- I have switched from via82cxxx to pata_via. Now the system boots and ZIP drive is not visible as device (I expected /dev/sdb). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=232086 ------- Comment #7 from sbrabec@novell.com 2007-01-16 02:12 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=113064) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=113064&action=view) boot.msg.gz Boot messages after switching to libata. No medium in drive. If there is a medium in the drive, drive is not detected, too. Drive is attached to the first IDE bus as a slave device. I have verified, that the drive is not broken and in SuSE Linux 10.1 works correctly. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=232086 ------- Comment #8 from teheo@novell.com 2007-01-16 03:45 MST ------- Hmmm... The device reports that it's a ATAPI device but causes HSM violation on INQUIRY. The drive doesn't seem to be following general SCSI behavior (INQUIRY is 'who are you?' in SCSI). The SCSI midlayer can't get any info about the device so it gives up, so no device. (glancing over ide-floppy...) Whee.. These devices need custom devices. I don't think we can use libata to drive these as long as libata depends on SCSI to sequence commands to ATAPI devices. I'll research more and report back. Please standby. Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=232086 sbrabec@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|sbrabec@novell.com | ------- Comment #13 from sbrabec@novell.com 2007-02-23 01:45 MST ------- Vanilla kernel 2.6.20.1 exhibits the same problems. Kernel messages are the same (or at least very similar). - Noisy boot, device not available using libata. - Noisy boot, long hangs, device broken using ide-floppy. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=232086 teheo@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |sbrabec@novell.com ------- Comment #14 from teheo@novell.com 2007-02-23 06:05 MST ------- Okay, thanks for trying the vanilla kernel. If you're okay, I'll gather info in this page and take it to linux-ide and cc you. So... 1. Is that okay with you? 2. Can you post the boot dmesg with ide driver on 2.6.20.1? Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=232086 ------- Comment #15 from sbrabec@novell.com 2007-02-25 13:15 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=120951) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=120951&action=view) pata.log.gz Boot messages with kernel 2.6.20.1, via82cxxx and ide-floppy. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=232086 ------- Comment #16 from sbrabec@novell.com 2007-02-25 13:16 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=120952) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=120952&action=view) sata.log.gz Boot messages with kernel 2.6.20.1, libata+pata_via. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=232086 sbrabec@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #120951|text/plain |application/x-gzip mime type| | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=232086 sbrabec@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|sbrabec@novell.com | ------- Comment #17 from sbrabec@novell.com 2007-02-25 13:20 MST ------- With 2.6.20.1 and old driver, it was able to detect geometry, but each attempt to access any data on the floppy causes several minutes long IDE hang. With 2.6.20.1 and libata, boot is noisy and device is not visible at all. In SuSE Linux 10.1 it was working. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=232086 ------- Comment #18 from sbrabec@novell.com 2007-02-26 00:11 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=120969) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=120969&action=view) 10_1_zip.log.gz Update: In SuSE Linux 10.1 ZIP drive works, but not correctly (with ide-floppy). If disk is present and I am trying to mount it, it first hangs for a minute and reports ugly things to syslog, then it starts to read from the floppy. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=232086 teheo@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |sbrabec@novell.com ------- Comment #19 from teheo@novell.com 2007-02-26 23:34 MST ------- Thanks but opensuse10.1 kernel is spewing less error messages but both 2.6.20.1 and sl101 kernel end up in the same place. hdb: lost interrupt hdb: status error: status=0x00 { } ide: failed opcode was: unknown ide-floppy: Strange, packet command initiated yet DRQ isn't asserted hdb: 98304kB, 196608 blocks, 512 sector size hdb: unknown partition table Does your zip drive work on opensuse 10.1 while it doesn't on 2.6.20.1? It seems opensuse10.1 is broken too. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=232086 sbrabec@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|sbrabec@novell.com | ------- Comment #20 from sbrabec@novell.com 2007-03-08 07:50 MST ------- As mentioned above in comment 18: In SuSE Linux 10.1 ZIP drive works, but not correctly (tested with ide-floppy). If disk is present and I am trying to mount it, it first hangs for a minute and reports ugly things to syslog (see comment 18 for log), then it starts to read from the floppy. I can retest even older SuSE Linux versions. I am nearly sure, that one of very old version will work without any problem. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=232086 ------- Comment #21 from teheo@novell.com 2007-03-09 06:10 MST ------- Okay, thanks. I wasn't sure whether it worked after the ugly messages. I'll forward it to upstream tomorrow. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=232086 teheo@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX ------- Comment #22 from teheo@novell.com 2007-03-13 10:09 MST ------- This is being discussed in the following thread. Resolving as WONTFIX here. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ide/16991 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
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