https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328016#c2 Mark Gordon changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mtgordon@novell.com Severity|Normal |Critical Summary|changing theme to Chlorophyll took away cursor |crash while changing theme to Chlorophyll took |theme |away cursor theme Status Whiteboard| |manager review --- Comment #2 from Mark Gordon 2007-09-25 09:54:35 MST --- I'm unable to reproduce the crash or the apparently subsequent bug. The segfault makes this nominally critical, but without a stack trace, I'm not sure we'll ever know what was responsible for the crash unless someone can reproduce it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328016#c4 Tejun Heo changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|teheo@novell.com | --- Comment #4 from Tejun Heo 2007-09-26 00:00:05 MST --- Unfortunately, I can't reproduce the problem anymore. Something is screwed up with theming tho. Whenever I change to a different theme, the cursor goes back to the X default (you know, the old ugly ones). If I enter the 'customize' menu, the current selection is still 'industrial'. If I choose another cursor theme and go back to industrial, pretty cursors come back. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328016#c5 JP Rosevear changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|crash while changing theme to Chlorophyll took |Themes don't default to using industrial cursor |away cursor theme | --- Comment #5 from JP Rosevear 2007-09-28 10:53:47 MST --- I can't see the crash either, but I can see the cursor switch to X when going to chlorphyll. Also by default my theme seems to be "custom". Perhaps the "Default Pointer" selection is not pointing to the right spot? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328016 JP Rosevear changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status Whiteboard|manager review | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328016#c7 --- Comment #7 from Hans Petter Jansson 2007-10-02 00:28:54 MST --- Ok, I've unraveled this now. Restating the problem as I've understood it: When you select a pre-defined theme, the mouse pointer set ("cursor theme") is set to the default X internal set of pointers, which is ugly. We want to use the Industrial pointer set (or another nice pointer set) instead. Here's how it works: When gnome-appearance-properties loads the themes, it looks in each theme's index.theme file ($PREFIX/share/themes/$THEME_NAME/index.theme), in the section [X-GNOME-Metatheme] for two key/value pairs - "CursorTheme=%s" and "CursorSize=%d". These are theme names and sizes, like the ones you can configure in the mouse pointer specific configurator. When the theme is chosen in gnome-appearance-properties, it sets a gconf key /apps/desktop/gnome/peripherals/mouse/cursor_theme to the value of the theme's CursorTheme, or "default" if the theme didn't specify any. There's another key in the same path, called cursor_size, which corresponds to CursorSize (it too has a fallback default if the theme doesn't specify any). The gnome-settings-daemon daemon picks up the gconf key changes and sets X properties corresponding to the keys - the properties are called "Gtk/CursorThemeName" and "Gtk/CursorThemeSize". These are then picked up by GTK and used to tell X what cursors to display. I'm not sure, but the actual cursor set loading seems to happen in X, prompted by XcursorSetTheme() and XcursorSetDefaultSize() calls in GDK. The cursor theme is loaded from files in $PREFIX/share/icons/$CURSOR_THEME_NAME/cursors/. If the cursors are not found there, X will fall back to its default ugly set. As mentioned earlier, if the theme's index.theme does not specify a CursorName, gnome-appearance-properties will just set the gconf key to "default". This value ultimately ends up as $CURSOR_THEME_NAME in the path above. The resulting path does not exist. And now, the problem: None of our themes seem to specify CursorTheme and CursorSize in their index.theme, so when you pick a theme, you always get the defaults and the missing path. There are three potential solutions that I see: 1) Patch gnome-appearance-properties to use one of our cursor themes instead of "default" as the default value. E.g. "Industrial". 2) Softlink /usr/share/icons/default to e.g. /usr/share/icons/Industrial. 3) Add the missing entries to our themes. I think 3) is the cleanest, but also the most work. 2) has some potential for unintended side effects, but is easy to do. 1) is nasty, and the "default" string has to be updated in more places than you'd think. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328016#c9 --- Comment #9 from Hans Petter Jansson 2007-10-02 22:15:01 MST --- I've discovered that libXcursor does fall back, to the hardcoded theme called "default", which would reside in /usr/share/icons/default/. So maybe the softlink proposal I made as option 2) in comment #7 is right after all. The question is, which package should own this symlink? desktop-data-SuSE, perhaps? It installs the theme /usr/share/icons/DMZ/, which is a cursor-only theme (actually the cursor looks like Industrial's). Possibly related bug in Debian's bugzilla (note that it's pretty old): http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=362766 Their solution was a symlink. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328016#c11 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |sndirsch@novell.com Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|sndirsch@novell.com | --- Comment #11 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-10-03 02:03:14 MST --- Yes, let's do the symlink. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328016#c13 --- Comment #13 from Hans Petter Jansson 2007-10-03 17:32:40 MST --- I've had a change to look at the latest Ubuntu build (2007-10-02) now, and they use the symlink approach as well, albeit with more sophistication. On Ubuntu, /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/x-cursor-theme, which is a symlink to /usr/share/icons/DMZ-White/cursor.theme, which contains one directive meaning "inherit from the DMZ-White theme". libXcursor will thus end up getting its cursors from /usr/share/icons/DMZ-White/cursors/. Their "alternatives" approach is for configuration purposes. If we use a fixed symlink, we will essentially be setting a system-wide default. In a perfect world, the X_MOUSE_CURSOR variable in /etc/sysconfig/windowmanager should control where this symlink points to. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328016#c15 --- Comment #15 from Dirk Mueller 2007-10-15 08:59:01 MST --- [16:57] jpr: what is the proposed solution? add the symlink? [16:57] jpr: add it to which package? [16:57] jpr: I don't see why we can't use the update-alternatives for it like ubuntu does [16:58] jpr: and what does the syncing of the sysconfig setting to the symlink? [16:58] it doesn't make sense that you default to "default" if default doesn't exist, and default is configured via sysconfig and not via a default symlink -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328016#c17 Hans Petter Jansson changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Info Provider|coolo@novell.com |ast@novell.com --- Comment #17 from Hans Petter Jansson 2007-10-18 15:19:59 MST --- @ast: Can I get a SWAMP ID for submission to 10.3? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328016#c19 Stephan Binner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|stbinner@novell.com | --- Comment #19 from Stephan Binner 2007-10-24 02:52:00 MST --- Can someone please explain me why this bug report is (still) critical? I wouldn't rate it higher than minor (also considering that there is an easy work-around available) and it doesn't justify an online update imo. If you really think that you have to patch this for the released product I would suggest to go with 1) and do 3) as the long-term proper fix. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328016 Federico Mena Quintero changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status Whiteboard| |gnome-wrong-out-of-the-box -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328016 User hpj@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328016#c22 Hans Petter Jansson changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|Critical |Normal Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |hpj@novell.com --- Comment #22 from Hans Petter Jansson 2008-03-31 17:01:04 MST --- This bug is no longer about the crash, but deals with the default cursor selection. I'm not sure if it's still valid on 11.0, will check. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328016 User hpj@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328016#c24 Hans Petter Jansson changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|hpj@novell.com | --- Comment #24 from Hans Petter Jansson 2008-04-23 18:23:17 MST --- Confirmed. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328016 Hans Petter Jansson changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |yast2-maintainers@suse.de -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328016 User sh@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328016#c27 Stefan Hundhammer changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|yast2-maintainers@suse.de | --- Comment #27 from Stefan Hundhammer 2008-05-20 04:02:58 MST --- yast2-maintainers@suse.de is a mailing list. Setting NEEDINFO to that list is a sure way to bury a bug. If there is no specific person to answer a question, nobody will ever answer. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328016 User coolo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328016#c29 --- Comment #29 from Stephan Kulow 2008-05-20 05:17:08 MST --- yast2 sysconfig can edit any setting, not just X_MOUSE_CURSOR -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328016 User hpj@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328016#c31 Hans Petter Jansson changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #31 from Hans Petter Jansson 2008-05-23 16:22:25 MDT --- Updated desktop-data-openSUSE with symlink submitted to STABLE. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.