[Bug 356558] New: rsnapshot fails completely, packaging error: require Lchown.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=356558 Summary: rsnapshot fails completely, packaging error: require Lchown. Product: openSUSE 10.3 Version: Final Platform: Other OS/Version: openSUSE 10.3 Status: NEW Severity: Major Priority: P5 - None Component: Maintenance AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: robin.listas@telefonica.net QAContact: qa@suse.de Found By: --- backup application rsnapshot fails completely. This is the normal output: nimrodel:~ # rsnapshot daily nimrodel:~ # Nothing. In linux parlance, that means success, but it took 0.2 seconds to completion. Impossible! The log contained this single sentence: Jan 28 03:05:12 nimrodel rsnapshot[14815]: /usr/bin/rsnapshot daily: completed successfully Configuring for a very verbose log, this is what I get instead: nimrodel:~ # rsnapshot daily require Lchown Lchown module not found Setting locale to POSIX "C" echo 3970 > /var/run/rsnapshot.pid rm -f /var/run/rsnapshot.pid /bin/logger -i -p user.info -t rsnapshot /usr/bin/rsnapshot daily: \ completed successfully nimrodel:~ # It claims success, but it did nothing, took less than a second to exit. It requires "Lchown", which comes in package "perl-lchown", which you forgot to include in the distro. Worse, rsnapshot does not depend on perl-lchown, the installer doesn't advise of this requirement. Further more, it is MNSHO that a backup application that claims success when it fact it failed utterly is a very bad backup app that should not have been included in opensuse as not having the expected quality! :-/ I will have to search for another backup utility, as I wont be able to ever trust rsnapshot again even if it claimed success! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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Michael Skibbe
It requires "Lchown", which comes in package "perl-lchown", which you forgot to include in the distro. Worse, rsnapshot does not depend on perl-lchown, the installer doesn't advise of this requirement.
i will fix this requirement
Further more, it is MNSHO that a backup application that claims success when it fact it failed utterly is a very bad backup app that should not have been included in opensuse as not having the expected quality! :-/
rsnapshot is imho the best tool to backup data over ssh/rsync/local/smb for more than one computer. i use this tool since months and it works fine - i never had problems before. no one knows each bug of an application (this is the first rsnapshot bug since rsnapshot is on opensuse). if you say a tool has a worse quality because it has one ugly bug what do you say about something like kde or the kernel which have hundreds of bugs.
I will have to search for another backup utility, as I wont be able to ever trust rsnapshot again even if it claimed success!
i will report such a "broken-by-concept"-problem on rsnapshot devel list. i hope they will think about return codes then and fix this issue. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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--- Comment #2 from Carlos Robinson
first of all this bug is not Major! this is a normal bug.
Sorry, but that is not so. Per your company description at https://bugzilla.novell.com/page.cgi?id=fields.html#bug_severity ] Severity ] ------- ] ] This field describes the impact of a bug. ] Blocker Blocks development and/or testing work ] Critical Crash, loss of data, corruption of data, severe memory leak ] Major Major loss of function ] Normal Non-major loss of function ] Minor Issue that can be viewed as trivial (e.g. cosmetic, UI, ] easily documented) ] Enhancement Request for enhancement This bug is reall "Major", as it the application involved has a "Major loss of function". I propose that you change it back to Major or change the definition of Major appropriately. Notice that the description doesn't say "loss of function in the distro", so most people assume it is "loss of function in the affected app"
(In reply to comment #0 from Carlos Robinson)
It requires "Lchown", which comes in package "perl-lchown", which you forgot to include in the distro. Worse, rsnapshot does not depend on perl-lchown, the installer doesn't advise of this requirement.
i will fix this requirement
Thanks. You will have to include the package as well, it is not in the distro.
Further more, it is MNSHO that a backup application that claims success when it fact it failed utterly is a very bad backup app that should not have been included in opensuse as not having the expected quality! :-/
rsnapshot is imho the best tool to backup data over ssh/rsync/local/smb for more than one computer. i use this tool since months and it works fine - i never had problems before. no one knows each bug of an application (this is the first rsnapshot bug since rsnapshot is on opensuse). if you say a tool has a worse quality because it has one ugly bug what do you say about something like kde or the kernel which have hundreds of bugs.
I consider claiming success when it failed completely is very very bad, imho. I can not trust a backup app that claims success and failed completely. It is two bugs: 1) the missing perl-lchown is not detected by " rsnapshot configtest" or later, unless I activate log verbosity 5, during normal run. And 2) it claims success when failing. It is the second one which I consider worst. A person might have it programmed in cron, check the log: success, success, success.... and there would be nothing done. It might take him sometime to discover that there is a problem. Look, I consider this application very interesting, and I'm surprised that nobody has found this problem before in 10.3. I didn't know it before and I'm in the process of testing possibilities, instead of using my own script with plain rsync. I was very disappointed to find it fail in such a way, I certainly didn't expect it, because I really wanted to use it. If I have been harsh is because I felt very disappointed after my expectations! (And yes, I also have reported bugs against the kernel, causing whole system crashes / lock-ups. This kernel is worse than 10.2's)
i will report such a "broken-by-concept"-problem on rsnapshot devel list. i hope they will think about return codes then and fix this issue.
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--- Comment #7 from Carlos Robinson
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--- Comment #10 from Hendrik Vogelsang
cmd_ssh /usr/bin/ssh 176c176 < sync_first 1
# sync_first 0
# ls /.snapshots/hourly.0/localhost/ etc home usr # l /.snapshots/hourly.0/localhost/etc/fstab -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 922 Jan 8 12:55 /.snapshots/hourly.0/localhost/etc/fstab -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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