[Bug 206956] New: Find a place to host NVIDIA/ATI kmp (+video) packages
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 Summary: Find a place to host NVIDIA/ATI kmp (+video) packages Product: openSUSE 10.2 Version: Alpha 4 plus Platform: Other OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Critical Priority: P5 - None Component: X11 3rd Party AssignedTo: aj@novell.com ReportedBy: sndirsch@novell.com QAContact: sndirsch@novell.com CC: adrian@novell.com, michl@novell.com The good news here is that we already have a solution for openSUSE 10.1 (after SLE10 has been released). Due to the common (kernel) code base you can use the packages for SLE10 hosted by ATI/NVIDIA also for openSUSE 10.1. And now the bad one. Since ATI/NVIDIA is concerned about needing to support drivers, which are hosted by them, it is *very* unlikely, that they will host RPMs for non-SLE product, because of the big driver matrix (n * openSUSE) X (o * driver_version) X (p * kernel_release) Therefore I suggest to host the RPMs for openSUSE > 10.1 on another server. packman might be a candidate for this. I've set this to critical, since the question, if we'll provide ATI/NVIDIA driver packages also for openSUSE > 10.1 comes quite often on the openSUSE mailing lists. It's nice to see we have these packages available for internal use, but it's even better to see a solution for our customers. SCNR ... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 aj@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 aj@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX ------- Comment #3 from aj@novell.com 2006-09-20 09:30 MST ------- SUSE/Novell will not release those packages at all. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 guru@unixtech.be changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |guru@unixtech.be ------- Comment #4 from guru@unixtech.be 2006-09-20 15:20 MST ------- Could you guys at least provide "support" (read: "help") for writing and building the KMP ? If hosted e.g. at Packman, it would be totally unsupported and "use at your own risk" anyway. But it would be really helpful if you could provide us with some help to do the KMP (as I presume you know how the folks at nVidia do it). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 ------- Comment #5 from sndirsch@novell.com 2006-09-20 15:39 MST ------- I don't see a problem in providing the source RPM, since the drivers themselves are marked as Nosource anyway. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 ------- Comment #6 from sndirsch@novell.com 2006-09-20 15:41 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=99252) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=99252&action=view) ati-fglrx.spm -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 ------- Comment #7 from sndirsch@novell.com 2006-09-20 15:42 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=99253) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=99253&action=view) x11-video-fglrx.spm -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 ------- Comment #8 from sndirsch@novell.com 2006-09-20 15:43 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=99254) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=99254&action=view) nvidia-gfx.spm -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 ------- Comment #9 from sndirsch@novell.com 2006-09-20 15:44 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=99255) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=99255&action=view) x11-video-nvidia.spm -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 ------- Comment #10 from martin.schlander@gmail.com 2006-09-21 03:20 MST ------- I think the obvious place for hosting would be the same as for 10.1 - namely Nvidia and ATi ftp respectively.. Is it to be understood that ATi and Nvidia refuse to host the KMPs for 10.2? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 ------- Comment #11 from dominique.leuenberger@tmf-group.com 2006-09-21 03:26 MST ------- I had some contact with nVidia a few days ago for this matter. And they are not willing to host the packages if they're not coming from Novell direct. Probably there is some scaryness about abuse behind. What would be about the Packman and/or Guru repos? Could this be an alternative? I guess Novell would not like somebody building them in the BS :-) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 ------- Comment #12 from martin.schlander@gmail.com 2006-09-21 03:56 MST ------- #11 Well, If the guys in Nürnberg were to build the packages they would be coming directly from Novell - the exact same thing as the current situation with the SLED KMPs. So if coming directly from Novell is the only issue - then all we need is for SUSE to take on the responsibility of building them and sending them to the vendors. Of course I don't expect the vendors to host KMPs some n00b built. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 ------- Comment #13 from dominique.leuenberger@tmf-group.com 2006-09-21 04:00 MST ------- As stated in #3 this is quiet unlikely to happen. Also some discussions on maillingsts pointed this out very clearly. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 ------- Comment #14 from martin.schlander@gmail.com 2006-09-21 04:08 MST ------- Maybe it's just me. But to me "releasing KMPs" and "building KMPs" are two different matters. Not entirely sure which AJ meant. In my scenario - much like the current SLE scenario - SUSE would do the building and the vendors would do the releasing. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 ------- Comment #15 from sndirsch@novell.com 2006-09-21 04:40 MST ------- (In reply to comment #10)
Is it to be understood that ATi and Nvidia refuse to host the KMPs for 10.2? Yes, I think so.
(In reply to comment #11)
I had some contact with nVidia a few days ago for this matter. And they are not willing to host the packages if they're not coming from Novell direct. With which NVIDIA person did you talk?
I guess Novell would not like somebody building them in the BS :-) Please, no, no, never do this! Unfortunately it's not possible to build only the Source RPMs. Otherwise I've done this a long time ago.
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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 ------- Comment #16 from dominique.leuenberger@tmf-group.com 2006-09-21 04:45 MST ------- (In reply to comment #15) My contact at nVidia was Lonni Friedman -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 ------- Comment #17 from sndirsch@novell.com 2006-09-21 04:50 MST ------- Ok. He has also a bugzilla account here at Novell. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 sndirsch@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |lfriedman@nvidia.com ------- Comment #19 from sndirsch@novell.com 2006-11-01 16:09 MST ------- Lonni, could you comment on the question if NVIDIA would be willing to host NVIDIA driver RPMs for openSUSE >= 10.2 built by Novell? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 ------- Comment #20 from lfriedman@nvidia.com 2006-11-01 16:28 MST ------- Yes, NVIDIA could host them assuming that Novell is providing them. Will they need to be signed in any way by NVIDIA, or just hosted? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 ------- Comment #21 from sndirsch@novell.com 2006-11-01 16:50 MST ------- Thanks! I'll ask. These need to be hosted in a YUM repository as it is already handled for SLE10 (see ftp://download.nvidia.com/novell). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 ------- Comment #22 from lfriedman@nvidia.com 2006-11-01 16:54 MST ------- We sign the SLE10 driver RPMs, so I'll assume that the process will be similar for 10.2. Feel free to email me directly, as I don't think we need to hash out details or logistics in this bug (unless you'd prefer to). Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 ------- Comment #23 from martin.schlander@gmail.com 2006-11-01 17:17 MST ------- Sounds great. One thing though. Let's not forget about that other huge vendor, ATi. True, most die hard Linux users have Nvidia, but many n00bs switching over have ATi, and on top of that the ATi driver is a bit tricky to install and set up. So having KMPs for ATi hosted is just as important, and potentially a very important selling point for openSUSE.. as if we need one the way 10.2 is shaping up. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 ------- Comment #24 from judas_iscariote@shorewall.net 2006-11-01 17:21 MST ------- (In reply to comment #23)
Sounds great.
One thing though. Let's not forget about that other huge vendor, ATi.
I guess you need to open a separate bug, this is about Nvidia.. ;) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 ------- Comment #25 from sndirsch@novell.com 2006-11-01 21:12 MST -------
I guess you need to open a separate bug, this is about Nvidia.. ;) Not at all. See Bug Summary.
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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 ------- Comment #26 from sndirsch@novell.com 2006-11-06 08:08 MST ------- I'm now maintaining the sources for the RPMs (excluding the installer!) via the openSUSE buildservice. Projects: X11:Drivers:Video:fglrx --> ati-fglrx X11:Drivers:Video:nvidia --> nvidia-gfx http://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=X11%3ADrivers%3AVideo%3Afglrx http://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=X11%3ADrivers%3AVideo%3Afglrx So anyone, who is interested in building RPMs (not only ATI/NVIDIA), can build and possibly host these. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 ------- Comment #27 from sndirsch@novell.com 2006-12-04 10:53 MST ------- Finally NVIDIA driver RPMs for openSUSE 10.2 are available http://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/10.2 My updated HOWTO should be available shortly. http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/nvidia-installer-HOWTO.html -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 ------- Comment #28 from sndirsch@novell.com 2007-02-13 10:12 MST ------- ATI fglrx packages for openSUSE 10.2 are finally available from the ATI site. My updated HOWTO with instructions how to installl the driver will also be available shortly. http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/ati-installer-HOWTO.html -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206956 ------- Comment #29 from sndirsch@novell.com 2007-02-13 10:13 MST ------- Use YaST -> Software -> Change installation Source -> Add Protocol: http Server Name: : www2.ati.com Directory on Server: suse/10.2 to add the ATI http server as additional installation source. Now use YaST -> Software -> Install and Delete Software to install the ATI/fglrx driver. Select the following packages: x11-video-fglrxG01 ati-fglrxG01-kmp-<kernel-flavor> <kernel-flavor> depends on your installed kernel. Check with "uname -r" for installed default/smp/bigsmp kernel. Use "sax2 -r" for X.Org configuration. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
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