[Bug 220228] New: Locale settings value should be lowercase
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=220228 Summary: Locale settings value should be lowercase Product: openSUSE 10.2 Version: Beta 2 Platform: Other OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Translations AssignedTo: ke@novell.com ReportedBy: kkemenczy@novell.com QAContact: ke@novell.com During the installation the locale settings value is uppercase, but in Hungarian language we use it as lowercase. I tried to find the uppercase value in the po files without any luck.
From where this value come from?
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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=220228 ------- Comment #1 from kkemenczy@novell.com 2006-11-11 14:13 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=104807) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=104807&action=view) "Magyar" should be "magyar" -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=220228 ke@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |ke@novell.com AssignedTo|ke@novell.com |bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com Component|Translations |YaST2 QAContact|ke@novell.com |jsrain@novell.com ------- Comment #2 from ke@novell.com 2006-11-12 00:03 MST ------- A YaST programmer please to check, whether there is some kind of inappropriate capitalization function in place. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=220228 sh@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|yast2-maintainers@suse.de |jsuchome@novell.com ------- Comment #5 from sh@novell.com 2006-11-14 09:17 MST ------- yast2-country -> jsuchome -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=220228 jsuchome@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |jsuchome@novell.com AssignedTo|jsuchome@novell.com |ke@novell.com ------- Comment #6 from jsuchome@novell.com 2006-11-15 00:09 MST ------- Ok, you are referring to the name of language in the list. We had this issue several times - more languages use the small first letter. But it was decided to use capital letter everytime, because the place language is used is kind of label, where we wanted to have everything uniformed. Karl, this is for you to decide. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=220228 ------- Comment #7 from jsuchome@novell.com 2006-11-15 00:10 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=105314) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=105314&action=view) screenshot of installation -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=220228 ke@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|ke@novell.com |jsuchome@novell.com ------- Comment #8 from ke@novell.com 2006-11-15 02:27 MST ------- In the selection list (comment #7) I prefer capitalization. At other places it might be useful to do some kind of tolower() (see example in comment #1). Maybe, this tolower() should depend on the language in use. Probably something to be evaluated LATER. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=220228 jsuchome@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |siegfried.olschner@novell.com, | |mschmidkunz@novell.com AssignedTo|jsuchome@novell.com |ke@novell.com Component|YaST2 |YaST2 Product|openSUSE 10.2 |openSUSE 10.3 Version|Beta 2 |Alpha 1 ------- Comment #9 from jsuchome@novell.com 2006-11-15 02:45 MST ------- First, I doubt we could use some mechanical solution like tolower, as the situation differes among languages. Additionally, some languages have more words and some include special characters. Anyway, the information which languages should use lower letter and at which place should it appear should come from you, not me. Adding usability experts to CC, their comment would be welcomed. (BTW, sure this is not for 10.2) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=220228 ------- Comment #10 from mschmidkunz@novell.com 2006-11-15 06:43 MST -------
From a usability point of view is highly recommended to stick to one solution to maintain consistency. And as other OS like MacOS 10 and Windows are using capitalization style we should do the same to conform user expectations.
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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=220228 ------- Comment #11 from ke@novell.com 2006-11-16 03:37 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=105612) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=105612&action=view) inconsistent capitalization @Jiri, yes we would change it on a case by case basis. Just let's wait for reports. Of course, the selection list you posted should stay as-is. @Martin, currently it is not consistent. See the black markers. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=220228 ke@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|ke@novell.com |jsuchome@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=220228 jsuchome@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID ------- Comment #14 from jsuchome@novell.com 2006-11-16 04:45 MST ------- from now, handled in feature tool -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=220228 hd@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |hd@novell.com ------- Comment #15 from hd@novell.com 2006-11-16 05:36 MST ------- Why can we not stay with uppercase? I am missing the impact this has on users/customers. It seems to be purely cosmetical and we seem to have more important items to care about. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=220228 ------- Comment #16 from kkemenczy@novell.com 2006-11-16 06:24 MST ------- (In reply to comment #15)
Why can we not stay with uppercase? I am missing the impact this has on users/customers. It seems to be purely cosmetical and we seem to have more important items to care about.
I do agree, this is a cosmetical issue... when I opened the bug, I thought there is a po file out there where I could change it message and ...done. I just wants to follow the Hungarian spelling rules where it's possible. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=220228 ------- Comment #17 from mschmidkunz@novell.com 2006-11-20 07:54 MST ------- Another soulution might be to present the language and the keyboard layout in the proposal as a list entry and to skip the colon. This would allow us to use uppercase all the time. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
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