[Bug 300794] New: Installation of WiFi Cards w firmware fails

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15 Aug 2007 15 Aug '07

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300794 Summary: Installation of WiFi Cards w firmware fails Product: openSUSE 10.3 Version: Beta 1 Platform: Other OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Network AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: axel.braun@gmx.de QAContact: qa@suse.de Found By: --- The installation of a wifi card with a required firmware is more than painful: First of all, nothing is mentioned THAT a firmware is required for this card Second, the description in /usr/share/doc/packages/wireless-tools/README.firmware has errors: 1) there is no option in YOU online update to download the firmware files. At least not anymore, that was back in the SuSE 9.x days 2) Download from the webpage of the vendor is not working as well, as he (Netgear) does not offer firmware independent from the Windows driver. 3) the firmware offered on prism54.org is not working properly 4) Luckily, I found a firmware on another machine :-| Third, the Yast2 dialog offers options, which are not available for this driver (WPA-PSK) So, finally the user is left somewhat alone, which is not good for a new user. It would be highly appreciated, if you could improve the support in this area, to support esp. new users discovering Linux -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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28 Aug 28 Aug

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New subject: [Bug 300794] Installation of WiFi Cards w firmware fails

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300794 Andreas Jaeger changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com |jg@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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31 Oct 31 Oct

10:23

New subject: [Bug 300794] Installation of WiFi Cards w firmware fails

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300794#c1 --- Comment #1 from Stefan Behlert 2007-10-31 04:23:02 MST --- Ok, point 1 should be an easy fix. 2 and 3 might not be fixable. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 300794] Installation of WiFi Cards w firmware fails

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300794#c2 --- Comment #2 from Axel Braun 2007-10-31 05:47:58 MST --- As this issue is somewhat older, here are some updates: - especially for the Netgear WG511 card, firmware for the prism54-driver is available from http://www.prism54.org/fullmac.html - as I could convince your colleagues to include the p54[usb|pci] driver as well, a working firmware for these drivers can be obtained from http://www.prism54.org/newdrivers.html - a hint might be to look at /var/log/messages once the driver loads to see what firmware name he expects. This is the name into which the firmware (e.g. 2.7.0.0.arm) has to be renamed. HTH Axel -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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27 Nov 27 Nov

16:42

New subject: [Bug 300794] Installation of WiFi Cards w firmware fails

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300794#c3 Joachim Gleissner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED --- Comment #3 from Joachim Gleissner 2007-11-27 09:42:23 MST --- I did YOU patches for downloading firmware which we are not allowed to ship. But maintaining it is a PITA, we should consider implementing a more clever approach. For example, create meta-packages with download information. Or even better, fetch the download information from an openSUSE side, so it can be maintained for released products without having to make patches. It would require some infrastructure in YaST. I'll open a feature request for it (or reanimate an existing one, if existent). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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20 Dec 20 Dec

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New subject: [Bug 300794] Installation of WiFi Cards w firmware fails

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300794 User jg@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300794#c4 Joachim Gleissner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |hschaa@novell.com AssignedTo|jg@novell.com |bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com Status|ASSIGNED |NEW --- Comment #4 from Joachim Gleissner 2007-12-20 09:36:33 MST --- Sorry, I didn't. Helmut, would be great if you could check FATE whether there is a feature request covering this. Resolving the bug report as WONTFIX, since it's a missing feature rather than a bug. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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3 Jan 3 Jan

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300794 Cyril Hrubis changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |hschaa@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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28 Jan 28 Jan

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300794 Cyril Hrubis changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com |hschaa@novell.com Status|ASSIGNED |NEW -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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31 Jan 31 Jan

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New subject: [Bug 300794] Installation of WiFi Cards w firmware fails

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300794 User hschaa@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300794#c9 Helmut Schaa changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Comment #9 from Helmut Schaa 2008-01-31 09:11:33 MST --- Closing as WONTFIX, see comment #4 for an explanation. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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27 May 27 May

17:17

New subject: [Bug 300794] Installation of WiFi Cards w firmware fails

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300794 User axel.braun@gmx.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300794#c10 Axel Braun changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Resolution|WONTFIX |FEATURE --- Comment #10 from Axel Braun 2008-05-27 11:17:27 MDT --- Maybe you should consider to rethink this: I tried Ubuntu 8.04 and was seriously surprised that it brings the right firmware for the p54-drivers, detects the card properly and got it running without a keystroke. In the live-system. I would like to see this in openSUSE as well, considering its reputation as newbie-friendly distribution -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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28 May 28 May

07:13

New subject: [Bug 300794] Installation of WiFi Cards w firmware fails

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300794 User hschaa@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300794#c11 --- Comment #11 from Helmut Schaa 2008-05-28 01:13:33 MDT --- Axel, of course we want that feature and it is already entered into our internal feature request tool. Nevertheless shipping firmware with the distribution has some legal issues (at least for some firmware files, not sure about the p54) and therefore we will not do that. The correct approach to take is to download the files 'on the fly' when needed and not to ship them with the distribution. 11.0 still lacks this feature :( -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300794 User axel.braun@gmx.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300794#c12 --- Comment #12 from Axel Braun 2008-05-28 01:26:34 MDT --- Hello Helmut, (In reply to comment #11 from Helmut Schaa)

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Axel, of course we want that feature and it is already entered into our internal feature request tool.

Nevertheless shipping firmware with the distribution has some legal issues (at least for some firmware files, not sure about the p54) and therefore we will not do that.

Sure, at least for the p54 Softmac-drivers it is OK, see http://www.prism54.org/newdrivers.html The older Fullmac driver is not OK.

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The correct approach to take is to download the files 'on the fly' when needed and not to ship them with the distribution.

Well, we are running into the hen-and-egg problem: How will u download a firmware, if you need the firmware to setup the (W)LAN? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300794 User hschaa@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300794#c13 --- Comment #13 from Helmut Schaa 2008-05-28 02:06:24 MDT --- (In reply to comment #12 from Axel Braun)

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Nevertheless shipping firmware with the distribution has some legal issues (at least for some firmware files, not sure about the p54) and therefore we will not do that.

Sure, at least for the p54 Softmac-drivers it is OK, see http://www.prism54.org/newdrivers.html The older Fullmac driver is not OK.

Thanks for the info.

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The correct approach to take is to download the files 'on the fly' when needed and not to ship them with the distribution.

Well, we are running into the hen-and-egg problem: How will u download a firmware, if you need the firmware to setup the (W)LAN?

True. But that approach is the only way for firmware which we cannot ship due to legal issues. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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