http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898#c1 --- Comment #1 from Jean-Daniel Dodin 2010-06-14 07:57:42 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=368879) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=368879) yast logs before rebooting -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898#c3 Jonathon Robison changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |jrobiso2@ford.com --- Comment #3 from Jonathon Robison 2010-06-14 10:26:18 UTC --- It certainly appears that K3B needs it . . . -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898#c5 --- Comment #5 from Andreas Jaeger 2010-06-14 13:04:04 UTC --- Lubos, could you file a feature request for KDE so that it does not use hal anymore and use udisks etc? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898#c7 --- Comment #7 from Andreas Jaeger 2010-06-15 07:35:01 UTC --- So, if it's installed, it should be enabled - and KDE requires it but GNOME does not require it (and therefore will not install it). -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898#c9 --- Comment #9 from Jean-Daniel Dodin 2010-06-15 08:37:56 UTC --- so... I started 11.3 and it worked (hal started). The steps I did at from the beginning: 1) installed 11.3 M7 lxde 2) installed k3b - error message: no devices found 3) run rchal status: stopped 4) run YaST runlevels: haldaemon yes* 5) switched to expert view, start daemon now reboot (day after): hal runs. so it seems that hal was installed (may be a k3b dependency) but not started. Had to reboot (like W* ? :-)) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898#c11 Martin Schlander changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P1 - Urgent CC| |martin.schlander@gmail.com Severity|Major |Critical --- Comment #11 from Martin Schlander 2010-06-18 13:41:05 UTC --- I did two fresh installations of RC1 - one KDE Live x86 and one DVD x86_64 with KDE. On neither installation is HAL installed nor running of course by default which means no detection and automounting of removable devices, the battery widget is non-functional etc. In other words, this bug couldn't be more critical... -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898#c13 Christian Boltz changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |suse-beta@cboltz.de --- Comment #13 from Christian Boltz 2010-06-19 01:05:11 CEST --- http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs:Most_Annoying_Bugs_11.3_dev#openSUSE_11.3_RC1 says: for KDE desktop this means : no detection and automounting of removable devices, the battery widget is non-functional etc. -> this bug is not limited to burning CDs, and therefore it is NOT enough if k3b requires hal. (At least if the description quoted above is correct. I didn't test myself ;-) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898#c15 John Webster changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |civil@bigpond.com --- Comment #15 from John Webster 2010-06-19 06:49:05 UTC --- In my experience, there are two significant installation problems arising from the absence of HAL packages in the KDE-based LiveCD images for RC1. The problems do not affect the corresponding Gnome-based images. The first problem is that, unless and until the OS has been installed to a hard disk, and the missing packages have been manually identified and added to the installation, USB sticks will not be mounted automatically. The second problem is that, in the absence of the relevant HAL packages, the OS cannot be installed using a LiveUSB stick, whether that stick has been created by the usual "dd" technique or through UNetBootin. This is particularly inconvenient when installing to a netbook. While I agree that an upstream fix would be highly desirable in the medium term, I believe that, in the interests of less-experienced users, this bug should be treated as being a release blocker, and an appropriate fix put in place. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898#c17 Lee Matheson changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |lee_matheson@hotmail.com --- Comment #17 from Lee Matheson 2010-06-19 10:56:12 UTC --- (In reply to comment #16)

It's amazing that an issue so severe had not been found before RC1 media was out ... Well, these things happen wrt all of us. I have many external hard drives and memory sticks, and typically hot plug USB automount is something I always check as soon as possible in an openSUSE release during development. But I've been focused on the LXDE release for 11.3 and I did not pay attention to hotplug automounting of USB sticks until RC1 when I finally decided to test KDE in a bit more detail. I suspect there is a similar story for others.

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http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898#c Mindaugas Baranauskas changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |embar@super.lt Blocks| |615632 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898#c Mindaugas Baranauskas changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- See Also| |https://bugzilla.novell.com | |/show_bug.cgi?id=613398 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898#c Mindaugas Baranauskas changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- See Also| |https://bugzilla.novell.com | |/show_bug.cgi?id=615463 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898#c20 --- Comment #20 from Lee Matheson 2010-06-20 05:50:01 UTC --- (In reply to comment #19)

Gnome is well.

What about pure LXDE, XFCE?..

I've been told that LXDE uses xfce battery manager that requires as dependency HAL, and hence HAL will be automatically installed on LXDE. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898#c22 --- Comment #22 from Kay Sievers 2010-06-20 11:27:32 UTC --- I guess KDE's 'solid' should depend on 'hal'. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898#c24 --- Comment #24 from Mindaugas Baranauskas 2010-06-20 13:25:23 UTC --- The title of this bug is „hal is not started for the first boot after complete install“. So the problem is that: after hal package installation, haldaemon don't start immediately. Solution of original bug issue: hal package installation should trigger haldaemon (or inform "reboot as soon as possible" after installation). -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898#c26 Stephan Kulow changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #26 from Stephan Kulow 2010-06-20 19:28:50 CEST --- it's in the default install now because kdelibs4 recommends it. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898#c28 Lubos Lunak changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |antonvdh@xs4all.nl --- Comment #28 from Lubos Lunak 2010-06-22 13:00:23 UTC --- *** Bug 615684 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615684 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898#c30 Lubos Lunak changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |vivek.ap+novell@gmail.com --- Comment #30 from Lubos Lunak 2010-06-28 15:51:19 UTC --- *** Bug 617752 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=617752 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898#c32 --- Comment #32 from Jean-Daniel Dodin 2010-07-04 17:42:42 UTC --- (In reply to comment #26)

it's in the default install now because kdelibs4 recommends it.

AFAIK, when I hit the problem, hal *was* installed but not started (read the first description) jdd -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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