https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=775514 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=775514#c1 --- Comment #1 from Robert Schweikert 2012-08-10 18:04:03 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=502013) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=502013) layout as shown with 12.2 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

From what I can see the order of some plugins has changed and a few seem to be missing, could you attach ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-panel.xml from before (e.g. a backup) and after the upgrade so it becomes clear what has changed? Also, how did you update, through a reinstallation or update via zypper/YaST? In case of

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=775514 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=775514#c3 Guido Berhörster changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |rschweikert@suse.com --- Comment #3 from Guido Berhörster 2012-08-10 18:59:32 UTC --- The resolution of the 12.2 screenshot is lower, so the panel that used to be on the bottom would be outside the visible area, hence I would not consider the repositioning of the panel a bug. the former what did you do after reinstallation, did you log into Xfce and install the panel plugins which are not part of the default install? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=775514 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=775514#c5 Robert Schweikert changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW InfoProvider|rschweikert@suse.com | --- Comment #5 from Robert Schweikert 2012-08-10 19:33:38 UTC --- The 12.2 install was as follows: - backed up my home directory - installed 12.2 from scratch, i.e. disk got completely reformatted - during install I selected all XFCE packages that are on the install media - after install logged in as root - put my home directory back into place - logged in as myself - result as seen in the screen shot attached earlier - the resolution of the screenshots is different as they were taken on different machines, however, the config on both machines was the same when both were running 12.1 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=775514 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=775514#c7 --- Comment #7 from Guido Berhörster 2012-08-10 21:30:27 UTC --- (In reply to comment #4)

Created an attachment (id=502024) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=502024) [details] the panel config file after I moved things back into the proper place on 12.2

Could you reproduce the "messed up" state seen on the 12.2 screenshot? It should be enough to create a new user account and copy over ~/.config/ from your backup and then to log in once. I'd like to diff the two configurations to see how the plugins have been rearranged and an upstream report will probably also need that info. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=775514 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=775514#c9 --- Comment #9 from Robert Schweikert 2012-08-11 10:57:04 UTC --- I've attached a tarball with .config/xfce from all 3 scenarios, the original setup as it works on 12.1, the messed up scenario, i.e. using the 12.1 config on 12.2, and the fixed up scenario, i.e. after I re-arranged everything in 12.2 to get the same look I had in 12.1 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=775514 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=775514#c11 --- Comment #11 from Guido Berhörster 2012-08-16 14:22:41 UTC --- Having both configurations was pretty helpful, basically the cause of the issue boils down to a combination of changes to the openSUSE branding and the design of xfconf. Basically, xfconf combines read-only, system-wide default settings in /etc with per-user overrides. If a user changes a setting that differs from the system-wide default, only this particular different setting will be stored in his home directory. Now the problem is that a number of your panel and panel plugin settings were still at the default or only certain settings had been overridden. So the combination of changes to the underlying default configuration in 12.2 in combination with your customizations caused the "mess". In order to work around the problem you would need to delete the default panel and start from scratch when customizing the panel in order to avoid interference with changing defaults. Now this is not simply a bug but rather a limitation of how xfconf works, that is retrieving a setting by overlaying the system-wide default configuration with per-user customizations. Now you or I could file a RFE upstream about this but I don't even have an idea how a solution would look like. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=775514 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=775514#c13 --- Comment #13 from Guido Berhörster 2012-08-18 14:55:10 UTC --- (In reply to comment #12)

Thanks for investigating this in detail.

A solution could be relatively simple. When a user customizes a setting a complete configuration is stored in the user's home directory and for any setting that has a configuration in the user's home directory the default in /etc is ignored.

This avoid any issues with merges/overlay.

Unlike gconf/gsettings xfconf does not use schemas defining all possible settings and legal values, so xfconf itself does not know about settings which are not specified in the system-wide configuration (if they are not, they are set to the built-in default of the application so the hierarchy according to which a setting is determined is builtin default value -> system-wide setting -> user-customized setting), so it's not quite that easily solvable.

Disk space is cheap and the configuration is small, this would be a reasonable way to address this problem.

Since this is upstream territory, would you mind filing an enhancement request at bugzilla.xfce.org citing this report? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=775514 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=775514#c15 Guido Berhörster changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |CLOSED See Also| |https://bugzilla.xfce.org/s | |how_bug.cgi?id=9229 Resolution| |UPSTREAM --- Comment #15 from Guido Berhörster 2012-08-24 09:33:40 UTC --- Thanks, I've added a bit more info on the upstream bug. I'm closing this bug since the issue can only be resolved upstream. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=775514 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=775514#c17 Guido Berhörster changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |bluedzins@wp.pl --- Comment #17 from Guido Berhörster 2013-02-06 10:48:35 UTC --- *** Bug 779395 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=779395 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.