https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374798 User sh@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374798#c1 Stefan Hundhammer changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|yast2-maintainers@suse.de |locilka@novell.com --- Comment #1 from Stefan Hundhammer 2008-03-31 06:28:43 MST --- Good point. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374798 User coolo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374798#c3 Stephan Kulow changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |ke@novell.com, fs@novell.com Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |stbinner@novell.com --- Comment #3 from Stephan Kulow 2008-04-03 15:24:37 MST --- Do you have some text suggestion? The source is at: https://svn.suse.de/svn/pattern/trunk/tools/patterns/src/patterns_utf8.c Putting Karl and Frank in CC, they might have input as well. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374798 User stbinner@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374798#c5 Stephan Binner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|stbinner@novell.com | --- Comment #5 from Stephan Binner 2008-04-07 02:27:11 MST --- 3) sounds good but it seems the "Others..." option doesn't exist anymore. :-| So it would have to relatively complicated read like "KDE 3.5.9, the latest release of the stable KDE3 series, is also included within openSUSE 11.0. For installation select first 'Minimal X Windows' as system type and later on the 'Installation Overview' screen add under 'Software' the 'KDE3 Desktop Environment' pattern." or alike. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374798 User wstephenson@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374798#c7 --- Comment #7 from Will Stephenson 2008-04-07 07:12:47 MST --- How about 2) with a 'KDE' label that is either hardcoded or i18ned from somewhere else, that expands into 2 sub-radio buttons with the KDE3 and KDE 4 pattern descriptions? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374798 User francis@opensuse.org added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374798#c9 Francis Giannaros changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |francis@opensuse.org --- Comment #9 from Francis Giannaros 2008-04-07 08:03:04 MST --- Sounds good, but we need better descriptions ;). Perhaps: KDE 4: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of KDE; it's less mature, but contains all of the latest KDE technologies and applications". KDE 3: "KDE 3.5 is the previous release of KDE; it's mature and stable, but contains the older desktop and applications" -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374798 User stephan.kleine@googlemail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374798#c11 Stephan Kleine changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |stephan.kleine@googlemail.com --- Comment #11 from Stephan Kleine 2008-04-07 09:59:38 MST --- +1 for separate choices for KDE 3 & 4 I really don't care how you call it - besides the obvious stuff (KDE3 is old and KDE4 is universal peace ;) - aka I'm perfectly happy with Francis suggestions) but IMHO it's neither good to make KDE4 the default (although this is not the point here) nor not to make it as easy as possible to select KDE3. Why? For the following, probably obvious, reasons: 1. KDE 4.0.x is neither intended for the end user nor on feature parity with KDE 3. So making KDE 4 the default with an easy to miss option to install KDE 3 will just result in some morons claiming that "Suse is da suxs cause their KDE is broken & far worse than their previous version". 2. KDE 3.5.9 is very polished & stable & generally works just great. Further it probably is preferred in a conservative / "I want to get stuff done" environment. 3. The argument that KDE 3.5 isn't supported officially and therefore there shouldn't be a choice is just bad because, following the usual no upgrades but just updates rule, it would mean that KDE 4.1 isn't supported as well which then will result in openSUSE 11.0 only supporting a KDE version that isn't intended for the end user. To make it short: I don't care if it is officially supported or not but I really want a separate choice to easily install KDE 3. Thanks :) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374798 User guru@unixtech.be added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374798#c13 Pascal Bleser changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |guru@unixtech.be --- Comment #13 from Pascal Bleser 2008-04-07 13:14:53 MST --- Agree 100% with Will and Martin (Lasarsch), we clearly need both options as, let's be honest, it's quite probable that there will still be some serious issues with KDE4 when 11.0 will come out, probably not for everyone, but certainly for a non negligible amount of users. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374798 User stbinner@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374798#c15 Stephan Binner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #15 from Stephan Binner 2008-05-01 23:54:24 MST --- Implemented in Beta 1. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.