[Bug 394316] New: X.org doesn't start in failsave mode

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24 May 2008 24 May '08

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=394316 Summary: X.org doesn't start in failsave mode Product: openSUSE 11.0 Version: Factory Platform: Other OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Major Priority: P5 - None Component: X.Org AssignedTo: sndirsch@novell.com ReportedBy: suse-beta@cboltz.de QAContact: xorg-maintainer-bugs@forge.provo.novell.com Found By: --- Created an attachment (id=217967) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=217967) Xorg.0.log Because of the broken kernel in Factory (post-beta3), I had to boot in failsave mode. Bad side effect of this: X.org doesn't start anymore, probably because of (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (Connection refused) The full Xorg.0.log is attached. I tried with several xorg.conf files (dualhead and only one screen), and always got the same result. Workaround: boot with the "normal" boot entry + acpi=off works. "normal" boot entry cmdline: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.25.4-2-default root=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_ST94011A_3KW2C49P-part5 resume=/dev/sda2 splash=silent showopts vga=0x342 (+ acpi=off) failsave boot entry cmdline: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.25.4-2-default root=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_ST94011A_3KW2C49P-part5 showopts ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off noresume nosmp noapic maxcpus=0 edd=off x11failsafe vga=0x342 (I just wonder what x11failsave should do...) I'll keep the broken kernel for some days in case you need something tested. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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24 May 24 May

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New subject: [Bug 394316] X.org doesn't start in failsave mode

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=394316 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=394316#c1 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |suse-beta@cboltz.de --- Comment #1 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-05-24 13:06:33 MDT ---

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(I just wonder what x11failsave should do...) If x11failsafe is set; then if /etc/X11/xorg.conf.install exists ; then X is started with the settings from installation (usually fbdev driver) else X is not started at all

Your logfile uses (++) Using config file: "/tmp/sax2-4440/xorg.conf" This means that it is a logfile from some SaX2 installation and not from failsafe boot at all. Please attach the correct logfile. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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25 May 25 May

10:11

New subject: [Bug 394316] X.org doesn't start in failsave mode

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=394316 User suse-beta@cboltz.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=394316#c2 Christian Boltz changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|suse-beta@cboltz.de | --- Comment #2 from Christian Boltz 2008-05-25 04:11:22 MDT --- (In reply to comment #1 from Stefan Dirsch)

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if /etc/X11/xorg.conf.install exists ; then X is started with the settings from installation (usually fbdev driver) else X is not started at all

Ah, then we have already found the reason: I did some cleanup in /etc/X11/ (I have always several config files around because of the dualhead setup I'm using) and also moved away xorg.conf.install. Therefore it's not surprising that X doesn't start in failsave mode ;-) I'd like to propose a small patch to /etc/init.d/xdm: --- /etc/init.d/xdm.orig 2008-05-25 12:01:31.000000000 +0200 +++ /etc/init.d/xdm 2008-05-25 12:02:13.000000000 +0200 @@ -166,6 +166,7 @@ case "$1" in if [ -f /etc/X11/xorg.conf.install ]; then export XORGCONFIG=xorg.conf.install else + echo "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.install does not exist!" >&2 rc_status -u rc_exit fi Simply print an error message _why_ it fails ;-)

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This means that it is a logfile from some SaX2 installation and not from failsafe boot at all. Please attach the correct logfile.

Oops, sorry. However I think attaching the logfile is obsolete now. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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18:55

New subject: [Bug 394316] X.org doesn't start in failsave mode

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=394316 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=394316#c3 --- Comment #3 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-05-25 12:55:04 MDT --- And what's the use of this error message? When xorg.conf.install is gone, it cannot be restored without reinstalling the system. So this error message would only confuse the customer. The graphical failsafe mode is new since openSUSE 11.0, so most people expect text mode anyway. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 394316] X.org doesn't start in failsave mode

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=394316 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=394316#c4 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Comment #4 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-05-25 12:56:53 MDT --- I don't see a way to fix this. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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26 May 26 May

10:07

New subject: [Bug 394316] X.org doesn't start in failsave mode

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=394316 User suse-beta@cboltz.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=394316#c5 Christian Boltz changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|WONTFIX | --- Comment #5 from Christian Boltz 2008-05-26 04:07:56 MDT --- (In reply to comment #3 from Stefan Dirsch)

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And what's the use of this error message? When xorg.conf.install is gone, it cannot be restored without reinstalling the system.

The use of this error message is: A more experienced user sees _why_ X doesn't start. (Newbies are irrelevant here IMHO - they won't delete xorg.conf.install ;-) I know that xorg.conf.install can't be restored automatically (and don't even expect it) - but giving the user a hint why something fails is always a good thing.

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So this error message would only confuse the customer. The graphical failsafe mode is new since openSUSE 11.0, so most people expect text mode anyway.

I think the current behaviour (fail silently) causes more confusion ;-) Agreed, most people expect text mode. But they also expect that "rcxdm start" starts X... Now compare the two possibilities on "rcxdm start": a) current behaviour: "unused - hmm, what's wrong?! X always worked, even with failsave boot parameters. Does X.org require ACPI now??? Or ...???" b) with the proposed error message: "Ah, they even made failsave mode using a failsave X config. Nice. I'll move xorg.conf.install back to its original location." (Or: "Silly me, I deleted xorg.conf.install :-(" - but you won't get a bugreport on the issue.) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 394316] X.org doesn't start in failsave mode

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=394316 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=394316#c6 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |ASSIGNED --- Comment #6 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-05-26 04:12:20 MDT ---

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But they also expect that "rcxdm start" starts X...

Thanks. I now finally understood your bugreport. :-) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 394316] X.org doesn't start in failsave mode

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=394316 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P2 - High -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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10:27

New subject: [Bug 394316] rcxdm doesn't start X in failsafe mode

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=394316 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|X.org doesn't start in failsave mode |rcxdm doesn't start X in failsafe mode -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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10:26

New subject: [Bug 394316] X.org doesn't start in failsave mode

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=394316 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=394316#c7 --- Comment #7 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-05-26 04:26:03 MDT --- What about this? "The failsafe X.Org configuration /etc/X11/xorg.conf.install no longer exists. Either move it back (if still available) or copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.install to use the native graphics driver instead of the failsafe graphics driver. Of course the latter option no longer can be called failsafe." -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 394316] rcxdm doesn't start X in failsafe mode

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=394316 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=394316#c8 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #8 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-05-26 06:28:46 MDT --- fixed for RC1/Factory/X11:XOrg. xorg-x11.changes: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Mon May 26 12:58:15 CEST 2008 - sndirsch@suse.de - xdm init script * bail out verbosely if /etc/X11/xorg.conf.install does not exist in failsafe mode (bnc #394316) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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