[Bug 557239] New: System mail constantly creates ~/Maildir but can not read from it

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http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557239 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557239#c0 Summary: System mail constantly creates ~/Maildir but can not read from it Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE 11.2 Version: Final Platform: x86-64 OS/Version: openSUSE 11.2 Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Basesystem AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: vendion@charter.net QAContact: qa@suse.de Found By: --- Blocker: --- User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091016 SUSE/3.5.4-1.1.2 Firefox/3.5.4 During installation I selected "recieves system mail" option for my user account. Now some point in the night ~/Maildir is created and contains my system mail but when I use the mail program all it says is that there is no mail for my user. vendion@Big-O:~> mail No mail for vendion vendion@Big-O:~> ls | grep Maildir Maildir vendion@Big-O:~> ls Maildir/new 1258693203.V807I18M215707.Big-O I may be wrong but shouldn't the Maildir be in /var/spool/mail/ instead of the users $HOME? Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Set a user account to recieve system mail 2. Install/enable something that runs nightly and sends output through the system mail, I have seccheck installed 3. try to read the mail generated the next day with the "mail" command Actual Results: Mail outputs "No mail for $USER" Expected Results: To be able to read the system mail -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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21 Nov 21 Nov

16:47

New subject: [Bug 557239] System mail constantly creates ~/Maildir but can not read from it

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557239 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557239#c1 Per Jessen changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |per.jessen@enidan.com --- Comment #1 from Per Jessen 2009-11-21 16:47:05 UTC --- /etc/postfix/main.cf, line 423: home_mailbox = Maildir/ This means local mail will be delivered to ~/Maildir/ - applications such "mail" expect to use /var/spool/mail/<user>. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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23 Nov 23 Nov

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New subject: [Bug 557239] System mail constantly creates ~/Maildir but can not read from it

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557239 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557239#c2 Tilman Schmidt changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |tilman@imap.cc --- Comment #2 from Tilman Schmidt 2009-11-23 00:25:15 UTC --- The problem is that someone decided to switch the Postfix default configuration for local delivery from the habitual mbox files everybody's been using for decades, to the of course vastly superior Maildir format, but didn't take the trouble to adapt the default configuration of all the mail clients. Specifically, he or she forgot the standard command line mail program, "mail", as well as the "you have mail" notification mechanism of bash. Fix: Either adapt *all* software included with openSUSE to look for mail in the new place *and* put a prominent notice in the Release Notice warning of that change - or revert the change in Postfix behaviour. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 557239] System mail constantly creates ~/Maildir but can not read from it

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557239 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557239#c3 --- Comment #3 from Adam Jimerson 2009-11-23 04:39:14 UTC --- Agreed but with a little more to add, if it is decided to stick with the new format and adapt all the mail programs to this then at least make the Maildir hidden (~/.Maildir) or keep it in /var/spool/mail/ in some way that may be easier to adapt programs to, if need be even. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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27 Nov 27 Nov

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New subject: [Bug 557239] System mail constantly creates ~/Maildir but can not read from it

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557239 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557239#c shuang qiu changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |sqiu@novell.com AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.pr |werner@novell.com |ovo.novell.com | -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 557239] System mail constantly creates ~/Maildir but can not read from it

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557239 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557239#c4 Dr. Werner Fink changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |max@novell.com, | |poeml@novell.com, | |werner@novell.com AssignedTo|werner@novell.com |varkoly@novell.com --- Comment #4 from Dr. Werner Fink 2009-11-27 08:32:18 UTC --- This seems to be a bug in postfix. No other MTA uses ~/.Maildir nor any Mail Client. Add maintainer of pine, mutt, mailx, exim, and sendmail to Carbon Copy list. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 557239] System mail constantly creates ~/Maildir but can not read from it

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557239 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557239#c5 --- Comment #5 from Reinhard Max 2009-11-27 08:49:29 UTC --- (In reply to comment #1)

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/etc/postfix/main.cf, line 423:

home_mailbox = Maildir/

Hmm - as far as I understand the comments above this line in main.cf the name isn't even meant to be used literally. It is only an example to illustrate the syntax for specifying home mailboxes in maildir (with a slash at the end) and mailbox (without a slash) format. --- snip --- # DELIVERY TO MAILBOX # # The home_mailbox parameter specifies the optional pathname of a # mailbox file relative to a user's home directory. The default # mailbox file is /var/spool/mail/user or /var/mail/user. Specify # "Maildir/" for qmail-style delivery (the / is required). # #home_mailbox = Mailbox home_mailbox = Maildir/ --- snap --- +1 for reverting this change. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 557239] System mail constantly creates ~/Maildir but can not read from it

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557239 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557239#c6 --- Comment #6 from Per Jessen 2009-11-27 08:58:59 UTC --- Judging by the package changelog, I would venture a guess and say that "home_mailbox=Maildir/" was uncommented by chris@computersalat.de. Maybe by accident. +1 for reverting this change. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.