http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958#c2 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED CC| |jdsn@novell.com Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #2 from Stefan Dirsch 2009-09-22 07:17:01 MDT --- The YaST/sax2 modules for keyboard/mouse have been dropped by intention. INVALID. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958#c4 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Comment #4 from Stefan Dirsch 2009-09-22 09:07:20 MDT --- Still the only thing you can do is changing the keyboard for the Linux console. It gets mapped to some basic X keyboard, but that is different to what users were used to with SaX2. People need to learn to use the keyboard config tool of their desktop. Period. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958#c6 --- Comment #6 from Stefan Dirsch 2009-09-23 01:48:48 MDT --- How crappy is this xfce desktop? For desktops/WMs, which don't have such a tool, you can still use setxkbmap. There should be still a module for changing the keyboard for the Linux console. Jens-Daniel? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958 User jsuchome@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958#c8 --- Comment #8 from Jiří­ Suchomel 2009-09-23 03:15:16 MDT --- It is possible to call that YaST module in text mode, and it will be able to change the console keyboard map. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958#c10 --- Comment #10 from Stefan Dirsch 2009-09-23 03:18:21 MDT --- (In reply to comment #8)

It is possible to call that YaST module in text mode, and it will be able to change the console keyboard map.

Indeed. It's now called "GPM configuration". -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958#c12 --- Comment #12 from Stefan Dirsch 2009-09-23 03:20:24 MDT --- I can't find a keyboard module in the list of 'yast -l'. Also not in the 'Hardware' menu. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958 User jsuchome@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958#c14 --- Comment #14 from Jiří­ Suchomel 2009-09-23 03:24:05 MDT --- You have to run it directly as 'yast keyboard' It was dropped from the menu by your request. IIMHO it is not possible to show it in ncurses menu but exclude from graphical menu. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958 User lnussel@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958#c16 --- Comment #16 from Ludwig Nussel 2009-09-23 03:41:26 MDT --- (In reply to comment #9)

Not sure how to run this module at all. And I'm sure that people will complain that the "new" keyboard module misses now the ability to configure the model, variant, etc, i.e. you can only select the layout.

Better than nothing at all. After all that's the only thing you can set during installation too. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958 User lnussel@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958#c18 --- Comment #18 from Ludwig Nussel 2009-09-23 04:00:26 MDT --- (In reply to comment #17)

Ludwig. 'yast keyboard' works for you, doesn't it?

Yes, works fine if I remove the early exit.

I could return it to menu, and show the popup mentioned in comment 0 when started in graphical mode...

Enhancement bug 541351 would also remove the need for reboot. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958 User jsuchome@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958#c20 Jiří­ Suchomel changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |lnussel@novell.com --- Comment #20 from Jiří­ Suchomel 2009-09-23 05:37:27 MDT --- (In reply to comment #18)

(In reply to comment #17)

...

Ludwig. 'yast keyboard' works for you, doesn't it?

Yes, works fine if I remove the early exit.

Which 'early exit' do you mean? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958 User lnussel@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958#c22 --- Comment #22 from Ludwig Nussel 2009-09-23 06:16:48 MDT --- 'yast2 keyboard' that is. 'yast keyboard' of course works always -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958 User lnussel@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958#c24 --- Comment #24 from Ludwig Nussel 2009-09-24 03:07:51 MDT --- (In reply to comment #23)

Looks like we are discussing different things aren't we?

In comment 17 I wrote:

"I could return it to menu, and show the popup mentioned in comment 0 when started in graphical mode..."

but you are complaining exactly about this popup in comment 22.

Ah, I thought you were referring to my suggestion to tell the user to reboot.

I will _not_ remove it, because it does not have ant sense to run YaST keyboard configuration in X11 mode: here it (even in previous releases) only started SaX, which lacks the keyboard config anyway.

No, it's different now. It's correct that the keyboard module called sax2 in the past and shouldn't do that anymore now as xorg.conf is gone. However, there's a hack in the xdm init script that uses a mapping table¹ to set the X keyboard according to the console keyboard. Ie KEYTABLE in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard now also has a meaning for X! So it't perfectly fine to use the yast keyboard module in X now without calling sax2. [1] /usr/share/sax/sysp/maps/Keyboard.map -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958 User lnussel@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958#c26 --- Comment #26 from Ludwig Nussel 2009-09-24 04:13:36 MDT --- (In reply to comment #25)

Wow, but this is totally new to me.

Yeah, I was surprised too.

Anyway, this is more a hack so I don't know if we should present it to user. The preferred way should be using some desktop tool.

Such tools apparently only exist for KDE and GNOME but not for e.g. XFCE or other window managers. Also a per-user desktop tool doesn't fix the keyboard in xdm.

BTW, is there any feature request covering what is really needed for YaST keybaord module?

No idea. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958 User jsuchome@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540958#c28 Jiří­ Suchomel changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P3 - Medium Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED Target Milestone|--- |RC 1 --- Comment #28 from Jiří­ Suchomel 2009-10-01 05:39:37 MDT --- Patches from comment 21 and comment 27 submitted as part of yast2-country-2.18.20 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.