[Bug 237708] New: update has destroyed system
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=237708 Summary: update has destroyed system Product: SUSE Linux 10.1 Version: Final Platform: i686 OS/Version: SuSE Linux 10.1 Status: NEW Severity: Critical Priority: P5 - None Component: Zenworks AssignedTo: zlm-code10-bugs@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: estellnb@lycos.at QAContact: sarifulla@novell.com After adding "http://software.opensuse.org/download/DBUS/" as an installation source and performing an update my SuSE 10.1 installation has been totally destroyed: ZenWorks has decided to uninstall core components like libzypp, libzypp-backend, kdebase3, hal, powersave, hwinfo and many others, because they all depend on /usr/lib/libdbus-1.so.2 which has been replaced by /usr/lib/libdbus-1.so.3. Interestingly it did not uninstall packages depending on kdebase3 i.e. the whole KDE environment so that something in the package dependency resultion must be clearly messed! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=237708 ------- Comment #1 from estellnb@lycos.at 2007-01-23 04:53 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=114373) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=114373&action=view) zmd message log -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=237708 wstephenson@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |wstephenson@novell.com AssignedTo|zlm-code10- |wstephenson@novell.com |bugs@forge.provo.novell.com | Status|NEW |ASSIGNED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=237708 ------- Comment #2 from estellnb@lycos.at 2007-01-23 07:06 MST ------- The updater should probably view packages to be deleted red, fat and with 12pt! 8pt black messages are often overlooked! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=237708 ------- Comment #3 from estellnb@lycos.at 2007-01-25 08:32 MST ------- please have a look at bug #238770, too. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=237708 wstephenson@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|wstephenson@novell.com |zlm-code10-bugs@forge.provo.novell.com Status|ASSIGNED |NEW ------- Comment #4 from wstephenson@novell.com 2007-01-26 07:33 MST ------- Whoops, I just wanted to watch this bug, not assign it to myself Probably a wontfix though, buildservice packages are unsupported. What concerns me is that it was so easy for zen-updater to take all newer packages known to the system as updates. IMO it should only take patches from the update source on 'update', as opensuse-updater does. Blindly updating with everything available in there is roughly equivalent to dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hda, just slower. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=237708 ------- Comment #5 from estellnb@lycos.at 2007-01-26 08:15 MST ------- It has probably been my mistake not to have a look at the uninstall list, but the examples seem to reveal certain errors in the dependency resolution: * If it decided to uninstall kdebase3 it would have to remove Kde completely. * It can not be true that the dependency resolution fails one minute later on exactly the same package selection which had already been accepted. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=237708 ------- Comment #6 from estellnb@lycos.at 2007-01-26 13:51 MST ------- Aber nein, werden wir doch nicht gleich wegen ein paar Fehlern aufgeben! und außerdem: Wenn das neue System nicht mehr leistet als das alte aber langsamer ist wieso verwenden wir dann nicht gleich das alte *? nur ein paar kleine Hacks und alles geht wieder ... -> gute Software fördert eben die Kreativität ihrer Anwender! * it should only take patches from the update source on 'update' -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=237708 ------- Comment #7 from estellnb@lycos.at 2007-02-08 02:30 MST ------- Note: The updates from "http://software.opensuse.org/download/DBUS/" are very valueable since they have fixed bug 206352 (kpowersave-dbus) under Suse10.1. Moreover this update has been necessary to make the HAL-automounter work. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=237708 visnov@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |estellnb@lycos.at ------- Comment #8 from visnov@novell.com 2007-02-08 02:34 MST ------- Please, attach /var/log/zmd-backend log as well -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=237708 ------- Comment #9 from estellnb@lycos.at 2007-02-08 03:45 MST ------- The zmd-backend log is already online at bug 243494. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=237708 visnov@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|zlm-code10- |schubi@novell.com |bugs@forge.provo.novell.com | Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|estellnb@lycos.at | ------- Comment #10 from visnov@novell.com 2007-02-08 04:32 MST ------- OK. Schubi, is there anything broken in the dependency handling? Why user is not provided with a way to fix them? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=237708 schubi@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |estellnb@lycos.at ------- Comment #11 from schubi@novell.com 2007-02-09 02:29 MST ------- I had a look to the lofiles of bug 243494 but I cannot see any delete request of e.G. ibzypp or libzypp-backend. Elmar can you reproduce it ? If yes, please start the ZMD deamon with: export ZYPP_FULLLOG=1; rczmd restart So the logfiles would be more verbose. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=237708 ------- Comment #12 from estellnb@lycos.at 2007-02-09 13:39 MST ------- They have both definitely been removed (No; this is not a joke). I know it because I had to reinstall them on my own.
rug hi -a removal|grep zypp 18.01.2007 | removal | libzypp | 1.3.2-0.9 18.01.2007 | removal | libzypp-zmd-backend | 7.1.1.0-42.53
Persuade yourself by:
sed -n "s#.*Removing .*package\]\(.*\)..#\1#p"
Perhaps Zenworks should stop where it has to remove itself - very reasonable. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=237708 ------- Comment #13 from estellnb@lycos.at 2007-02-09 14:28 MST ------- Reproduce that? You lucky having a good mood! At least not now (From Tomorrow on I will be away). To reproduce that I would at first have to downgrade dbus-1 (upgrade desc: bug 206352) and then perform the upgrade again just to get an unusable system. Perhaps I can do that before I wrack down my old Suse10.1-Installation to replace it by OpenSuse 10.2. I did not want to do so up to now because 10.1 is still working and because I would loose the proprietary addons (OpenOffice:NovellEdition, YaST-Cfg) uo. It would be cat's pajamas if you could provide them for me if I should reproduce this with ZYPP_FULLLOG=1. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=237708 schubi@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |RESOLVED Info Provider|estellnb@lycos.at | Resolution| |INVALID ------- Comment #14 from schubi@novell.com 2007-02-12 01:23 MST ------- Feel free to reopen the bug, if you can provide the required information. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
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