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10 Jan 2007 10 Jan '07

10:39

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 Summary: no debuginfo packages for fixed packages Product: openSUSE 10.2 Version: RC 5 Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Basesystem AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: olh@novell.com QAContact: qa@suse.de 10.2 has appearently no debuginfo packages for security/bugfix packages. another install source is required to provide also the -debuginfo.rpm for the very latest release of a package. The current situation confuses yast, as seen in bug #231183 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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10 Jan 10 Jan

20:47

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 meissner@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |meissner@novell.com AssignedTo|bnc-team- |hmuelle@novell.com |screening@forge.provo.novell| |.com | ------- Comment #1 from meissner@novell.com 2007-01-10 13:47 MST ------- its a conscious choice not to release it at this time -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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31 Jan 31 Jan

18:09

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 aj@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |aj@novell.com, visnov@novell.com AssignedTo|aj@novell.com |kkaempf@novell.com ------- Comment #3 from aj@novell.com 2007-01-31 11:09 MST ------- Releasing them is not possible. But the problem you raise in #231183 is something we have to look at. Klaus, Stano, please propose a solution! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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2 Feb 2 Feb

09:24

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 kkaempf@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|kkaempf@novell.com |aj@novell.com ------- Comment #4 from kkaempf@novell.com 2007-02-02 02:24 MST ------- The problem in #231183 is that the available -debuginfo package is the GA one but the system already has a patched one installed. The only solution is to make -debuginfo for updated packages available in the update (or a separate debuginfo-update) channel. If releasing them (comment #3) is not possible, we have to close this bug as WONTFIX. Back to prjmgr to drive a decision. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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6 Feb 6 Feb

12:58

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 ------- Comment #5 from visnov@novell.com 2007-02-06 05:58 MST ------- Harald, I see the only way to provide a separate debuginfo channel for maintenance updates. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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27 Mar 27 Mar

14:02

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 andreas.hanke@gmx-topmail.de changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |hendrik.maryns@uni-tuebingen.de ------- Comment #13 from andreas.hanke@gmx-topmail.de 2007-03-27 08:02 MST ------- *** Bug 257895 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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14:23

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 ------- Comment #14 from hendrik.maryns@uni-tuebingen.de 2007-03-27 08:23 MST ------- I don’t understand why you don’t offer the debuginfo packages along with the other updates: updates are only done if the package is already installed, right? So if someone does not care about it, he will not see the update. But those that want it, can get it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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14:35

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 ------- Comment #15 from meissner@novell.com 2007-03-27 08:35 MST ------- diskspace on all mirrors. 40GB or more for just 10.2 debuginfos -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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16:15

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 hmuelle@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |adrian@novell.com ------- Comment #16 from hmuelle@novell.com 2007-03-27 10:15 MST ------- I haven't forgot about the issue/bug - I am just busy with work on SLES currently. I am currently have an idea to find a working compromise, but this needs to be thought through to avoid issues later on. Adrian, if you have free cycle contact me about this issue, maybe you can drive my idea to a solution after some discussion. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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15 Aug 15 Aug

11:19

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c17 Harald Mueller-Ney changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |rnissl@gmx.de --- Comment #17 from Harald Mueller-Ney 2007-08-15 05:19:05 MST --- *** Bug 300426 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300426 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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17 Aug 17 Aug

10:06

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c18 --- Comment #18 from Peter Poeml 2007-08-17 04:06:19 MST --- In reply to comment #15:

...

diskspace on all mirrors.

40GB or more for just 10.2 debuginfos

It is interesting to consider that _14_ mirrors (that I know of) _have_ the capacity to host 30 GB of drpmsync data for Factory, even though it is almost certainly useless for them, because they don't run a drpmsync server. (By the way, we could think about better usage of those 30 GB on our own server, too. They are accessed only by 5-15 client machines per day.) This is a waste of space on our mirrors. I am currently working to stop them mirroring of this content (unless a mirror consciously decides to do so, of course). (The primary reason why _I_ want to get rid of those is because the extreme number of files blows up the rsync load and mirror database, for no good reason.) Furthermore, I wouldn't necessarily assume that debuginfo packages _need_ to be on a mirror. Depending on customer interest, it may not required redirection to mirrors at all. Anyway, if the content is out of tree and put in a separate rsync module, mirrors will need to consciously decide whether to mirror that stuff. The point is: with things lke drpmsync, factory builds, and buildservice repositories, we already _have_ the situation that mirrors do not simply mirror our entire server, but only selected parts they choose. In fact, extra stuff like debuginfos doesn't need to be on download.o.o at all, because it doesn't need the same kind of high availability as other content hosted there. Technically, it is also possible to restrict the bandwidth used for debuginfo downloads, even if hosted on the same server. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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18 Aug 18 Aug

13:20

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c19 Jon Schewe changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |jpschewe@mtu.net --- Comment #19 from Jon Schewe 2007-08-18 07:20:26 MST --- As a user that would really like the debuginfo packages (for reporting bugs), this seems like a reasonable solution. I'd be fine with a bandwidth limited connection to the debuginfo packages for security releases as I could have my machine pull these in the off hours and it wouldn't be in my way. I notice that I can get the source RPMs for all of the security patches, which will automatically build the debuginfo packages. Perhaps another solution would be for the update mechanism to automatically build the debuginfo packages on the client side? Although I suspect it's much more cost effective to just put the already built updates on the server rather than trying to write a whole new app to do something that's already being built, just not made available. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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20 Aug 20 Aug

10:47

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c20 --- Comment #20 from Harald Mueller-Ney 2007-08-20 04:47:45 MST --- Thx, Jon! This is a really nice idea. I will add it to my discussions with people. Size, bandwith is one of the reasons we do not deliver debuginfo packages currently. Currently our package do not contain any debug information, this reduces size. The debuginfo packages contain not only information what we hat before in binary packages but also the source. I am currently investigating if/how to change our setup for debuginfos so that we have all needed information in debuginfo packages and could reduce them in size. This will not only hit openSUSE but all of our products, this makes it more complex to match all needs and constraints. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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12 Sep 12 Sep

11:04

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c21 --- Comment #21 from Peter Poeml 2007-09-12 05:04:53 MST --- Current statistics of space eating of debuginfo packages on download.opensuse.org: 10.0: 6.7 GB 10.1: 11.5 GB 10.2: 13.5 GB Factory: 25.2 GB buildservice: 17.3 GB total: 74.2 GB @Marcus: How do you estimate the 10.2 *update* debuginfo requiring 40GB? Do you count every package update or only the last update of a package? Other question: Do we need to host debuginfo packages forever? I suppose we could remove them as soon as the next product is released. This would make room for debuginfos of current software, which are going to be requested much more frequently. For instance, could we remove 10.0 and 10.1 now? Or would this invalidate metadata? If so, I suggest to handle debuginfo packages separately so they can be removed earlier than the rest. (Or moved to a separate, non-HA download server.) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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11:26

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c22 --- Comment #22 from Jon Schewe 2007-09-12 05:26:28 MST --- Another thought is to only keep the most recent debuginfo package on the update server. So for a given package you'd have at most 2 debuginfo packages, one for the initial install and one for the update. Which leads to the question, why are all versions of a package kept on the server? Why not just the most recent update? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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14:02

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c23 Harald Mueller-Ney changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|hmuelle@novell.com |coolo@novell.com Status|ASSIGNED |NEW --- Comment #23 from Harald Mueller-Ney 2007-09-12 08:02:42 MST --- (In reply to comment #22 from Jon Schewe)

...

Another thought is to only keep the most recent debuginfo package on the update server. So for a given package you'd have at most 2 debuginfo packages, one for the initial install and one for the update. Which leads to the question, why are all versions of a package kept on the server? Why not just the most recent update?

This is already in my planning. I/we make slow progress, this topics involves all products - not only openSUSE. I see no chance to fix it for 10.2. We need to avoid it for 10.3 handing over bug to Coolo for my vacation. I will bring up to date face 2 face! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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21 Sep 21 Sep

06:10

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c24 Stephan Kulow changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|coolo@novell.com |ast@novell.com --- Comment #24 from Stephan Kulow 2007-09-21 00:10:46 MST --- Sorry, but this is something your team has to figure out. It doesn't have to be on all mirrors, but there should be a channel to get the debuginfo of latest updates for all products. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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06:57

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c25 --- Comment #25 from Marcus Meissner 2007-09-21 00:57:51 MST --- regarding peters comment #c21 ... - debuginfo packages on the buildservice must be enabled by hand , right? while autobuild generates them automatically. that makes your figures skewed. - size of updates debuginfos (of all patches) I did: cd /mounts/mirror/SuSE/ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.2/repodata grep PATCHINFO patch-*|sed -e 's/.*="//;s/".*//;' | \ while read md5 ; do find /work/built/patchinfo/$md5/|grep 10.2-|grep debuginfo|xargs stat -c "%s" ; done |\ perl -e 'while (<>) { /(\d*)/;$foo += $1; } print "$foo\n";' 10.2: 15.030.159.614 (15GB) 10.1: 26.495.952.911 (26GB) 10.0: 3.913.865.787 ( 3GB) (with auto obsolete) We do not auto obsolete in 10.1 and 10.2, which causes the way larger sizes. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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08:31

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c26 --- Comment #26 from Peter Poeml 2007-09-21 02:31:42 MST --- Buildservice debuginfo is enabled by hand. Right now, about one third of all buildservice projects does build with debuginfo (that's the 17GB). I'd expect this number to grow rather than shrink. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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23 Sep 23 Sep

07:46

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 Andreas Jaeger changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |mike@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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24 Sep 24 Sep

06:09

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c30 --- Comment #30 from Adrian Schröter 2007-09-24 00:09:58 MST --- IMHO, we may can ignore it for now. This gets solved automatically, _IF_ we build openSUSE in the build service and _IF_ we provide updates just via an addon repository. (this setup makes sense for several reasons from my view, I want a paper for this, because it does not fit in bugzilla nicely ...). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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07:11

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c31 --- Comment #31 from Andreas Jaeger 2007-09-24 01:11:17 MST --- Adrian, when will this be ready? I doubt it will be ready soon enough. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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07:40

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c32 --- Comment #32 from Adrian Schröter 2007-09-24 01:40:32 MST --- It will not be ready for 10.3. Earliest possible distro will be 11.0. We need to speak about that a bit more detailed ... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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21 Oct 21 Oct

13:23

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c33 Stephan Kulow changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|mike@novell.com | --- Comment #33 from Stephan Kulow 2007-10-21 07:23:19 MST --- I don't think there is a plan to do maintenance updates via build service. Especially as there is a _lot_ missing (just thinking delta rpms). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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22 Oct 22 Oct

07:29

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c34 Harald Mueller-Ney changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Comment #34 from Harald Mueller-Ney 2007-10-22 01:29:06 MST --- We will not fix it for 10.2, 10.3 is now out and could be used for development. Closing Bug. openSUSE team will work on a solution for 10.3. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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11:28

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c36 Jon Schewe changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Component|Basesystem |Basesystem Product|openSUSE 10.2 |openSUSE 10.3 Resolution|WONTFIX | Target Milestone|--- |unspecified Version|RC 5 |Final --- Comment #36 from Jon Schewe 2007-10-22 05:28:26 MST --- How about updating the product on the bug to be 10.3, rather than closing the bug? That way we don't loose the discussion and ideas that have been presented here. Besides it clearly isn't fixed yet and it sounds like the team is still willing to try and fix this, so "WONTFIX" doesn't apply either. I've got 10.3 installed now and found that yast does a little better job with this. It complains about the debuginfo packages if I upgrade the regular package. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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13:21

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c37 Harald Mueller-Ney changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|hmuelle@novell.com |coolo@novell.com Status|REOPENED |NEW --- Comment #37 from Harald Mueller-Ney 2007-10-22 07:21:41 MST --- In this case handing over to Coolo for 10.3. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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23 Oct 23 Oct

14:31

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c38 --- Comment #38 from David Kozlin 2007-10-23 08:31:47 MST --- I agree with Jon. This problem is one that the team would like to try to resolve. One of the issues here is that when a package is upgraded via the update channel for security reasons (ie a mandatory update), the debuginfo package is not updated. We then have a dependency issue. In my case, at the time it was GTK 2.10.6.24(patched)from GTK 2.10.6.13 and there was a YAST dependency issue with the debuginfo package gtk2-debuginfo. Echoing Coolo..A channel to obtain the latest updates of debug packages would probably fix the problem. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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16:10

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c39 Marcus Meissner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |ensonic@sonicpulse.de --- Comment #39 from Marcus Meissner 2007-10-23 10:10:59 MST --- *** Bug 335798 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=335798 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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18:16

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c40 --- Comment #40 from Stefan Kost 2007-10-23 12:16:32 MST --- Shouldn't diskspace be less of an issue when using delta-rpms? I doube that a security update causes lots of delta in the debuginfo. The issue is that after the first security update, development (debugging) becomes painful and bug-report use-less. So please try to come up with a fix for 10.3 even. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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18:52

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c41 --- Comment #41 from Peter Poeml 2007-10-23 12:52:51 MST --- That Harald closed this bug can only be a mistake. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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2 Nov 2 Nov

14:30

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c43 Mark Gordon changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |sbrabec@novell.com --- Comment #43 from Mark Gordon 2007-11-02 08:30:09 MST --- *** Bug 338623 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=338623 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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15:31

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c44 --- Comment #44 from Stefan Kost 2007-11-02 09:31:21 MST --- Hej, is there anything moving here. Can I expect it to be handled soon? Is there a known workaround. I need to debug some gtk issues and if this is stuck, I will have to build my own copy of gtk. So please be so kind and give us a status update. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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7 Nov 7 Nov

10:22

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c45 --- Comment #45 from Stephan Kulow 2007-11-07 03:22:30 MST --- We do not yet work on it. For large values of "soon" you can expect it though -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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9 Nov 9 Nov

21:59

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c46 Mark Gordon changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mwelinder@gmail.com --- Comment #46 from Mark Gordon 2007-11-09 14:58:59 MST --- *** Bug 340444 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=340444 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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10 Nov 10 Nov

00:52

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c47 --- Comment #47 from Morten Welinder 2007-11-09 17:52:35 MST --- If only a handful of clients access this information daily, there is probably no need to mirror. Bandwidth is not an issue either. So isn't this just a matter of putting the updated debuginfo packages on a www visible disk somewhere? Perhaps with a "sorry, online update does not handle this automatically yet" message. In fact, the debug channel might as well be suspended if it can create conflicts. Also, if disk space is an issue, perhaps it would make sense not to duplicate the source package inside the debuginfo package. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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13 Nov 13 Nov

13:25

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c51 Adrian Schröter changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|adrian@novell.com | --- Comment #51 from Adrian Schröter 2007-11-13 06:25:57 MST --- coolo and me agreed on the following: In future we want the following directories, just to be in sync with the structure below pub/opensuse/distribution/ /pub/opensuse/update/11.0/oss/ (official updates for 11.0) /pub/opensuse/update/11.0/debug/ (debuginfo rpms for official updates) /pub/opensuse/update/11.0/testing/ (test updates including debuginfo, not released yet) Since we have a repo already below /update/10.3/ we want to use the following directories: /pub/opensuse/update/10.3-debug/ (debuginfo rpms for official updates) /pub/opensuse/update/10.3-testing/ (test updates including debuginfo, not released yet) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c52 Stephan Kulow changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|coolo@novell.com |mls@novell.com --- Comment #52 from Stephan Kulow 2007-11-13 07:11:48 MST --- For now just having 10.3-testing will be fine for both. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c53 Christian Boltz changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |suse-beta@cboltz.de --- Comment #53 from Christian Boltz 2007-11-13 09:56:11 MST --- (In reply to comment #51 from Adrian Schroeter)

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/pub/opensuse/update/11.0/oss/ (official updates for 11.0)

A maybe silly question: will this directory include updates of non-oss software also? (I'm wondering about the name "oss"...)

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/pub/opensuse/update/11.0/debug/ (debuginfo rpms for official updates) /pub/opensuse/update/11.0/testing/ (test updates including debuginfo, not released yet)

I'm looking forward to have those packages available :-) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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16:25

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c54 Hubert Figuiere changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |hfiguiere@novell.com --- Comment #54 from Hubert Figuiere 2007-11-19 09:25:45 MST --- *** Bug 340260 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=340260 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 Michael Schröder changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|mls@novell.com |ro@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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11:44

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 Ruediger Oertel changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|Normal |Major Status|NEW |ASSIGNED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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8 Feb 8 Feb

10:41

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

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From the view of mirror feeding, I am strongly opposed to adding more

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User poeml@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c56 --- Comment #56 from Peter Poeml 2008-02-08 03:41:16 MST --- directories below /pub/opensuse/update/. Especially large ones. The rsync modules on {stage,rsync}.opensuse.org (which the mirrors depend on) are an increasing mess. What typically happens (resp. happened in the past) is that we added new content right into the trees which mirrors pull their copies from. Some examples: - the existing debuginfo packages. The 10.3 debuginfo for instance comprises 24 GB of 51 GB repo size, but they are hardly ever downloaded. It doesn't make sense to occupy 24 GB of space on mirrors with files which are hardly ever downloaded. To give you some perspective: yesterday's log (a typical day) shows 1.896.276 downloads for rpm files 4.028 downloads for rpm debuginfo files which is a ridiculously small number. Likely no mirror needed at all. It's sufficient if those files are on download.opensuse.org. - the drpmsync tree (30 GB wasted on mirrors). Mirrors were mirroring this tree even though they didn't know about it, because it was "hidden" in the Factory directory. There were more mirrors than active downloaders of the tree (5)! - the 10.3-test update tree (12 GB wasted on mirrors). This tree is for testing and surely doesn't need to be mirrored. (But it was mirrored until recently, because it was added without considering mirroring.) I'm sure we could have a lot more mirrors, if we wouldn't waste so much of their disk space anymore. Mirrors that don't even consider mirroring us because of the required disk space, mirrors that have too bad international connectivity to mirror hundreds of gigs, ... In addition, we have a load problem on our rsync servers, which is largely caused by those proliferated trees. Configured rsync excludes are not a real solution to this, because they don't make the tree smaller which the origin server (download.opensuse.org) has to stat. For instance, it takes over half an hour meanwhile just to find out that /repositories has no new files (full sync over the tree, even omitting all repoview files). drpmsync is another example, as the extreme number of files (200.000) takes insane amounts of time to rsync (try du -sc on the directory). Therefore, I strongly suggest to put extra stuff like debuginfos in separate trees from now on. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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11:48

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User jpschewe@mtu.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c57 --- Comment #57 from Jon Schewe 2008-02-08 04:48:13 MST --- This sounds very reasonable. I think it would be fine to have all of these in a separate tree that is only on the main site and isn't mirrored. It would be really nice if I could get these files and shrink my mirrors of the standard files as well. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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25 Apr 25 Apr

14:53

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User cthiel@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c58 --- Comment #58 from Christoph Thiel 2008-04-25 08:53:39 MST --- Adrian, *ping*? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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27 May 27 May

07:53

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User coolo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c59 Stephan Kulow changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |bart.vanassche@gmail.com --- Comment #59 from Stephan Kulow 2008-05-27 01:53:42 MDT --- *** Bug 393192 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=393192 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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11 Jun 11 Jun

09:29

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User adrian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c60 Adrian Schröter changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|adrian@novell.com | --- Comment #60 from Adrian Schröter 2008-06-11 03:29:04 MDT --- All this is part of the Fatory tree generation in OBS 1.1. Currently debug packages are blocked completely. We need them in an extra tree and we need a solution for the src.rpm which take a real big amount of storage atm. I hope we can find a solution which allows us to disable src.rpm build by default. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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09:30

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User adrian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c61 Adrian Schröter changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|ro@novell.com |mls@novell.com Status|ASSIGNED |NEW --- Comment #61 from Adrian Schröter 2008-06-11 03:30:56 MDT --- Klaas, Michael, we need some setting possibilities to allow to disable/enable the build and publishing src and/or debug packages. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User adrian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c62 Adrian Schröter changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |freitag@novell.com --- Comment #62 from Adrian Schröter 2008-06-11 03:32:26 MDT --- Klaas, we need some spec to control this. (bugzilla allows reassign and need info only in two steps). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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17 Jun 17 Jun

15:33

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User jblunck@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c63 --- Comment #63 from Jan Blunck 2008-06-17 09:33:16 MDT --- Adrian, dump question but isn't controlling of whether to build src or debuginfo packages something different than this bug is about? AFAIK this bug was about making the debuginfo for updates available externally. If this is achieved, we can close the bug, right? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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16 Jul 16 Jul

15:41

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 Olaf Hering changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Found By|Other |Development -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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25 Jul 25 Jul

20:44

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User gnorton@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c64 Geoff Norton changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |gnorton@novell.com Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|freitag@novell.com | --- Comment #64 from Geoff Norton 2008-07-25 14:44:23 MDT --- This isn't achieved as of openSUSE 11, and in fact it bit me again yesterday trying to debug a crash cauesd by an updated package and not getting a complete stack trace. Installing the debuginfo wanted to downgrade the package, which masked the bug. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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21:23

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User stbinner@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c65 Stephan Binner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |msvec@novell.com --- Comment #65 from Stephan Binner 2008-07-25 15:23:30 MDT --- *** Bug 406557 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=406557 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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21:24

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User stbinner@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c66 Stephan Binner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|Major |Blocker --- Comment #66 from Stephan Binner 2008-07-25 15:24:53 MDT --- Raising severity as defined in the new bug definition policy: "Blocker - Prevents developers or testers from performing their jobs. Impacts the development process." -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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28 Jul 28 Jul

08:54

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User mls@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c67 Michael Schröder changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|mls@novell.com |ro@novell.com --- Comment #67 from Michael Schröder 2008-07-28 02:54:28 MDT --- Rudi, aren't the debuginfo packages for 11.0 GA and the maintenance updates available somewhere? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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09:27

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User msvec@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c68 --- Comment #68 from Michal Svec 2008-07-28 03:27:09 MDT --- Well, for GA they are available for some time already here: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/repo/debug/ But for maintenance updates (at least as I'm aware) not and that's what's reported here I believe. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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09:56

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User lrupp@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c69 Lars Vogdt changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |lrupp@novell.com Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |coolo@novell.com --- Comment #69 from Lars Vogdt 2008-07-28 03:56:27 MDT --- (In reply to comment #68 from Michal Svec)

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Well, for GA they are available for some time already here: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/repo/debug/

But for maintenance updates (at least as I'm aware) not and that's what's reported here I believe.

Until now there has been no request to release debuginfo packages for updated packages on 11.0 - so currently there are no debuginfos, yes. Coolo: as far as I know it's your decision if we should release debuginfo packages also for the updated packages somewhere. So please tell autobuild 'if' and (- if the answer is yes -) 'where' to store these packages. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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12:20

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User jpschewe@mtu.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c70 Jon Schewe changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|Basesystem |Basesystem Product|openSUSE 10.3 |openSUSE 11.0 Target Milestone|unspecified |--- for Fix| | --- Comment #70 from Jon Schewe 2008-07-28 06:20:49 MDT --- (In reply to comment #69 from Lars Vogdt)

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Until now there has been no request to release debuginfo packages for updated packages on 11.0 - so currently there are no debuginfos, yes.

Ok, then to make it clear, YES I want debuginfo packages for updated packages for 11.0 AND any future releases that are made. This bug was initially put in against 10.2, because that was the latest version of opensuse at the time. Then it didn't get done for 10.3, so we moved it forward to 10.3. Then it sound like this was really going to get done for 11.0, so I think most people stopped bugging the team so they could get their work done. Now 11.0 is out and no debuginfo packages. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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15:08

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User coolo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c72 Stephan Kulow changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|coolo@novell.com | --- Comment #72 from Stephan Kulow 2008-07-28 09:08:07 MDT --- yes, we want the updates in an extra tree - not under /update. Adrian is currently evaluating /pub/sources/11.0/debug and /pub/sources/11.0/update as repos. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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16:32

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User carthexis@yahoo.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c73 ahquo3roTa Beefpile changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |carthexis@yahoo.de --- Comment #73 from ahquo3roTa Beefpile 2008-07-28 10:32:42 MDT ---

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Until now there has been no request to release debuginfo packages for updated packages on 11.0 - so currently there are no debuginfos, yes.

Request! Request! It would probably be a wise idea to release _every_ package with its debuginfo available somewhere. It's not that every updated package is bug free, is it? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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18:32

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User Chanankoz@earthlink.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c74 --- Comment #74 from David Kozlin 2008-07-28 12:32:06 MDT --- In reference to comment #70, yes the request was made back in 10.2. The team has been working on where to place the debug-update packages and we have since moved onto 10.3 and 11.0. The request is an open one. We need updated debug packages because there sometimes occurs a dependency issue with updates wherein the update must be downgraded due to a dependency conflict with the debug package. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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4 Aug 4 Aug

10:09

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User ro@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c75 Ruediger Oertel changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |adrian@novell.com --- Comment #75 from Ruediger Oertel 2008-08-04 04:09:32 MDT --- Adrian: path defined already ? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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20:57

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User adrian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c76 Adrian Schröter changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Info Provider|adrian@novell.com |poeml@novell.com --- Comment #76 from Adrian Schröter 2008-08-04 14:57:38 MDT --- My proposal was this one: http://en.opensuse.org/FTP_Server_Layout agreement and no protest on suse-mirror ml. Peter, do you have any opinion about that ? The path for debuginfo and debugsource packages would be pub/opensuse/debug/update/11.0/ for example. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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14 Aug 14 Aug

16:27

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User mmeeks@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c77 Michael Meeks changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mmeeks@novell.com --- Comment #77 from Michael Meeks 2008-08-14 10:27:20 MDT --- This is particularly bad for SystemTap - who have a FAQ just for SUSE on this: http://sourceware.org/systemtap/wiki/SystemTapOnopenSUSE - of the form: downgrade, or build-your-own-kernel ... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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18 Aug 18 Aug

10:23

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User poeml@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c78 --- Comment #78 from Peter Poeml 2008-08-18 04:23:20 MDT --- Regarding Adrians proposal I posted some questions to the mirror mailing list and I'm waiting for feedback. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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19 Aug 19 Aug

12:19

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User poeml@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c79 --- Comment #79 from Peter Poeml 2008-08-19 06:19:26 MDT --- Unfortunately, the mirror mailing list is not a public list; here's my reply. Feedback anyone? |> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 04:30:32PM +0200, Adrian Schröter wrote: |> > due to existing request to add further debuginfo packages and also to requests |> > to split away src.rpms from the usual mirror space, I created this wiki page |> > as proposal how to setup it in future: |> > |> > http://en.opensuse.org/FTP_Server_Layout |> > |> > In short, we will not move around anything of the released distributions but |> > create new top level directories and change slightly the layout for future |> > distributions. This affects only src.rpms and debug-*.rpms. |> > |> > Do you have any opinion regarding this layout ? |> > |> > bye |> > adrian |> |> Looks fine so far! I have two questions: |> |> 1) Will the /repositories tree undergo the same splitup as /distribution |> and /update? |> |> In other words, will the debuginfo packages that the build service |> produces also be under /debug, or do you suggest this only for |> /distribution and /update? |> |> |> 2) Are we okay with putting the sources aside in the same way? It will |> mean for mirrors that they offer binary packages without offering the |> respective source packages directly next to them (if a mirror, let's |> say, mirrors only the /distribution tree and not /source). |> |> Peter -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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22 Aug 22 Aug

18:27

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User hfiguiere@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c80 --- Comment #80 from Hubert Figuiere 2008-08-22 12:27:32 MDT --- Created an attachment (id=235023) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=235023) screenshot Here is what happen when you have an update to a package whose debuginfo has been installed. And there don't seem to be any way out. Will file a separate packagekit bug. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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18:30

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User hfiguiere@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c81 --- Comment #81 from Hubert Figuiere 2008-08-22 12:30:53 MDT --- see bug 419629 for comment #80 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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26 Aug 26 Aug

09:30

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User mmeeks@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c82 --- Comment #82 from Michael Meeks 2008-08-26 03:30:22 MDT --- Wow - thanks Peter: really looking forward to seeing this. The irony of course is that the most buggy packages, that most need debuginfo, are (of course) the packages that also get updates that mean there is no debuginfo ;-) Looking forward to this going live. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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2 Sep 2 Sep

18:54

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User poeml@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c83 --- Comment #83 from Peter Poeml 2008-09-02 12:54:55 MDT --- Let's go for the proposal as far as we already agreed on it. Thanks Rudi for already implementing the update debuginfos. I have adjusted all rsync modules. Two mirrors will mirror the debuginfos for now. The debuginfo install source for 11.0 updates is available at: http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/11.0/ *however* it'll work reliably only in a few days. A mirror clean up needs to be awaited first, because the debug tree accidentally ended up on mirrors lately. Until then, http://widehat.opensuse.org/debug/update/11.0/ may be used. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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3 Sep 3 Sep

08:20

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User stbinner@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c84 --- Comment #84 from Stephan Binner 2008-09-03 02:20:30 MDT ---

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Until then, http://widehat.opensuse.org/debug/update/11.0/ may be used.

The content appears to be rather incomplete to me, eg no debuginfo for any released KDE4 update package. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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09:03

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User hmuelle@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c85 --- Comment #85 from Harald Mueller-Ney 2008-09-03 03:03:01 MDT --- It is not easy to add debuginfos for already released packages updates. Rudi setup build system to release also debuginfo for ALL packages end of July (July 28th is the timestamp of the oldest). Hence I would say this bug is fixed besides mirror adjustments. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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12:04

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User poeml@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c86 Peter Poeml changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Info Provider|poeml@novell.com |ro@novell.com --- Comment #86 from Peter Poeml 2008-09-03 06:04:39 MDT --- Rudi, any change to add the missing packages for 11.0? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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12 Oct 12 Oct

22:25

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User flucifredi@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c87 Federico Lucifredi changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |flucifredi@novell.com --- Comment #87 from Federico Lucifredi 2008-10-12 16:24:56 MDT --- I am right in understanding that as a result of this there are no publicly available providers of kernel-debuginfo for the current kernel ? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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13 Oct 13 Oct

06:57

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User meissner@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c88 --- Comment #88 from Marcus Meissner 2008-10-13 00:57:36 MDT --- There have been for 11.0 for the last updates. See here: http://download.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/debug/update/11.0/rpm/ Its just that we did not release them for the early 11.0 updates. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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15 Oct 15 Oct

01:01

New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User ro@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c89 Ruediger Oertel changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |RESOLVED Info Provider|ro@novell.com | Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #89 from Ruediger Oertel 2008-10-14 19:01:04 MDT --- yes, all current updates are released with their corresponding debuginfo packages for 11.0 since quite a while. I think we can ignore the very early updates. closing bug for now. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 233122] no debuginfo packages for fixed packages

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122 User mmeeks@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=233122#c90 --- Comment #90 from Michael Meeks 2008-10-15 02:58:22 MDT --- great work guys :-) I just wanted to say thanks - you rock. [ now if only the debugger actually worked ... ;-] -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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