http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535432 User dave.plater@yahoo.co.uk added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535432#c1 Dave Plater changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |dmacvicar@novell.com --- Comment #1 from Dave Plater 2009-08-29 02:15:07 MDT --- see old bug revisited https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=379480 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535432 User dave.plater@yahoo.co.uk added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535432#c3 --- Comment #3 from Dave Plater 2009-08-29 04:09:38 MDT --- rpm-4.7.1 no longer provides librpmdb-4.4.so -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535432 User dave.plater@yahoo.co.uk added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535432#c5 --- Comment #5 from Dave Plater 2009-08-31 02:24:55 MDT --- This is an excerpt from rpm.org api changes between 4.4.2 and 4.6.0 :- librpmdb has been merged with librpm. The split was largely artificial and caused more entirely unnecessary problems than it solved. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535432 User dave.plater@yahoo.co.uk added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535432#c7 --- Comment #7 from Dave Plater 2009-08-31 03:33:30 MDT --- I'm still learning but if all the functions are available in librpm couldn't a link simply be created to librpmdb? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535432 User ma@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535432#c9 Michael Andres changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P2 - High CC| |ma@novell.com AssignedTo|zypp-maintainers@forge.prov |jkupec@novell.com |o.novell.com | --- Comment #9 from Michael Andres 2009-08-31 04:42:47 MDT --- The problem is that factory is inconsistent. It contains a new rpm package, but dependent packages like e.g. zypper/libzypp are still old (linked against rpm-4.4). The second problem, and IMO the only thing we could/should? fix, is that 'zypper in' still uses force resolve. Without this, the suggested deletion of zypper/libzyp/etc. would have been reported as dependency conflict, telling that there is no provider for librpmdb-4.4. With this information one might recognize that factory is not consistent. At least one has to explicitly confirm the deletion. Currently (with --force) zypper behaves as if everything went well. One may use --force per default when removing packages, but I don't know why it should be needed when installing. It just disguises potential problems. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535432 User dave.plater@yahoo.co.uk added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535432#c11 --- Comment #11 from Dave Plater 2009-09-01 07:05:44 MDT --- I now have factory rpm 4.7.1 installed along with updated libzypp and satsolver-tools. The only package I had to rebuild was kdeutils3 and had to allow the removal of rpmlint-Factory and rpmlint-mini only. They will most probably catch up soon. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535432 User dave.plater@yahoo.co.uk added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535432#c13 --- Comment #13 from Dave Plater 2009-09-04 12:48:57 MDT --- Like I said in comment 10 if I have enabled /etc/zypp/systemCheck in zypp.conf and added requires:libzypp and requires:satsolver-tools to it and I get an error message when I try to install rpm using zypper in this will prevent me from breaking my installation system. If this was a system default then there wouldn't be a problem. Obviously an upgrade like rpm 4.7 wouldn't occur in a release version, only in factory. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535432 User dave.plater@yahoo.co.uk added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535432#c15 --- Comment #15 from Dave Plater 2009-09-07 14:45:33 MDT --- (In reply to comment #14)

Maybe: Add an option to your zypper.conf, so I can disable auto-using --force.

As long as --force is on, you won't convince me that --force is necessary or helpful.

"-f, --force Install even if the item is already installed (reinstall)" taken from man zypper. isn't a default, --force-resolution is a default for zypper install and causes packages to be marked for deletion and normally makes life easier. If certain packages which it would be illogical to remove such as rpm, libzypp and satsolver-tools that make the base installation system were in /etc/zypp/systemCheck and systemCheck was enabled in zypp.conf by default then problems like this would never occur and the installation system would never remove itself at least without warning the user. see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=379480#c8 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535432 User jkupec@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535432#c16 --- Comment #16 from Ján Kupec 2009-11-06 05:04:26 MST --- Hi guys, so what do we do with this? (and let's forget about the forceResoltuion, we discuss that in bug 548017) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535432 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535432#c17 Ján Kupec changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #17 from Ján Kupec 2010-10-18 20:03:18 UTC --- Read through the report again, so here's the summary: * the original problem (new rpm, old zypp in factory) => FIXED * the suggestion to add zypp to /etc/zypp/systemCheck => WONTFIX (as explained in c#10) * zypper.conf now has solver.forceResoltuionCommands => FIXED in 1.2.12 (you can configure which commands should use the flag) I guess we can close this issue now. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.