[Bug 367188] New: web apps cannot find Nimbus Sans L Condensed

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 Summary: web apps cannot find Nimbus Sans L Condensed Product: openSUSE 11.0 Version: Alpha 2 Platform: PC URL: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/Font/fonts-comps- narrow.html OS/Version: openSUSE 11.0 Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: X.Org AssignedTo: sndirsch@novell.com ReportedBy: mrmazda@ij.net QAContact: xorg-maintainer-bugs@forge.provo.novell.com Found By: --- Nimbus Sans L Condensed is the only narrow aspect font otherwise widely available by default on Linux that works well on web pages. Firefox and Konq cannot find this font on most distros, including OpenSUSE. Mandriva proves that it's possible, using the same ghostscript n019043l.pfb file, so OpenSUSE should be able to do it too - the output of 'fc-list "nimbus sans l" family style width' on Factory and Cooker match, showing the existence of the condensed variant. URL is testcase. Attachment is using that testcase. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 367188] web apps cannot find Nimbus Sans L Condensed

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 User mrmazda@ij.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188#c1 --- Comment #1 from Felix Miata 2008-03-04 22:22:06 MST --- Created an attachment (id=198668) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=198668) screenshot on Mandriva's Firefox showing Nimbus Sans L Condensed compared to various other fonts -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188#c2 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|sndirsch@novell.com |bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com Component|X.Org |X11 Applications QAContact|xorg-maintainer-bugs@forge.provo.novell.com |sndirsch@novell.com --- Comment #2 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-03-04 23:14:16 MST --- # fc-list "nimbus sans l" family style width file [...] /usr/share/fonts/URW/n019043l.pfb: Nimbus Sans L:style=Regular Condensed:width=75 [...] As long as toolkits/applications use fontconfig, they should be able to use this font, unless they are limited to a set of font styles. This might be the case for Qt/gtk. Maybe they can only use - Regular - Italic - Bold - Bold italic Mike should know this. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com |mfabian@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 Mike Fabian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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07:11

New subject: [Bug 367188] web apps cannot find Nimbus Sans L Condensed

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 User mrmazda@ij.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188#c3 --- Comment #3 from Felix Miata 2008-03-05 00:11:37 MST --- Probably gtk can be ruled out. I just tried http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0b3/linux-i686/en-... on both Cooker and Factory. Success similar to distro's FF2 on Cooker, failure same as distro's FF2 on Factory. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188#c4 --- Comment #4 from Mike Fabian 2008-03-05 00:14:44 MST --- Felix Miata> URL is testcase. Attachment is using that testcase. http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/Font/fonts-comps-narrow.html -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 367188] web apps cannot find Nimbus Sans L Condensed

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188#c5 --- Comment #5 from Mike Fabian 2008-03-05 00:21:06 MST --- Your web page source: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 367188] web apps cannot find Nimbus Sans L Condensed

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 User mrmazda@ij.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188#c6 --- Comment #6 from Felix Miata 2008-03-05 00:43:32 MST --- Grepping for Condensed through Cooker's /etc/fonts tree turned up no hits. If you look at the bottom of the screenshot, you can see Cooker's KDE font control panel does find a font named Nimbus Sans L Condensed. Maybe this says something useful: # fc-list "nimbus sans l" file /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/n019024l.pfb: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/n019023l.pfb: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/adobestd35/n019023l.pfb: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/n019004l.pfb: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/n019003l.pfb: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/adobestd35/n019024l.pfb: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/adobestd35/n019003l.pfb: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/adobestd35/n019004l.pfb: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 367188] web apps cannot find Nimbus Sans L Condensed

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 User mrmazda@ij.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188#c7 --- Comment #7 from Felix Miata 2008-03-05 00:49:22 MST --- Compare also from Cooker: # fc-list "nimbus sans l condensed" file /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/adobestd35/n019063l.pfb: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/adobestd35/n019064l.pfb: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/adobestd35/n019043l.pfb: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/adobestd35/n019044l.pfb: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/n019064l.pfb: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/n019063l.pfb: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/n019044l.pfb: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/n019043l.pfb: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 367188] web apps cannot find Nimbus Sans L Condensed

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188#c8 --- Comment #8 from Mike Fabian 2008-03-05 04:39:49 MST --- Felix Miata> If you look at the bottom of the screenshot, you can see Felix Miata> Cooker's KDE font control panel does find a font named Felix Miata> Nimbus Sans L Condensed. This, and the fact that the command fc-list "nimbus sans l condensed" file lists font files like /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/n019063l.pfb shows that this font *is* indeed called "Nimbus Sans L Condensed" on Cooker. We have a font with the same file name on openSUSE: /usr/share/fonts/URW/n019063l.pfb but it is called "Nimbus Sans L" and has the style "Regular Condensed Italic". Can you attach this font from Cooker please? Do you have further information where it comes from on Cooker? spec file, upstream source? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 User mrmazda@ij.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188#c9 --- Comment #9 from Felix Miata 2008-03-05 07:17:43 MST --- Created an attachment (id=198799) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=198799) Cooker's n019063l.pfb I don't know anything about spec files. The RPM headers claim a ftp.cs.wisc.edu source, but that ultimately only leads to a self-referencing README. Maybe the packager listed in the headers can provide more information. RPM headers summary says "Free, good quality versions of the 35 standard PostScript(TM) fonts, donated under the GPL by URW++ Design and Development GmbH." http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/mandrivalinux/devel/cooker/SRPMS/main/release/... http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/mandrivalinux/devel/cooker/i586/media/main/rel... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188#c10 --- Comment #10 from Mike Fabian 2008-03-05 07:43:17 MST --- Yes, the name is indeed different in the font: Our font: mfabian@magellan:~$ ftdump /usr/share/fonts/URW/n019063l.pfb There is 1 face in this file. ----- Face number: 0 ----- font name entries family: Nimbus Sans L style: Regular Condensed Italic postscript: NimbusSanL-ReguCondItal font type entries FreeType driver: type1 sfnt wrapped: no type: scalable direction: horizontal fixed width: no glyph names: yes EM size: 1000 global BBox: (-139,-286):(1021,959) ascent: 959 descent: -286 text height: 1245 glyph count: 558 charmaps 0: platform 3, encoding 1 (active) 1: platform 7, encoding 0 mfabian@magellan:~$ Mandriva’s font: mfabian@magellan:~$ ftdump /tmp/bnc/bnc367188/n019063l.pfb There is 1 face in this file. ----- Face number: 0 ----- font name entries family: Nimbus Sans L Condensed style: Regular Italic postscript: NimbusSanL-ReguCondItal font type entries FreeType driver: type1 sfnt wrapped: no type: scalable direction: horizontal fixed width: no glyph names: yes EM size: 1000 global BBox: (-139,-286):(1021,959) ascent: 959 descent: -286 text height: 1245 glyph count: 633 charmaps 0: platform 3, encoding 1 (active) 1: platform 7, encoding 0 mfabian@magellan:~$ The glyph count is higher in Mandriva’s font, I guess Mandriva’s version is newer. If you look into the font with “less”, you can also see that Mandriva’s version has been edited with fontforge whereas our version has not. This is another indication that Mandriva’s font is newer. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 User mrmazda@ij.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188#c11 --- Comment #11 from Felix Miata 2008-03-05 12:34:38 MST --- According to http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/fontconfig/2008-March/002873.html it appears also Gentoo has a separate condensed Nimbus Sans L. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188#c12 --- Comment #12 from Mike Fabian 2008-03-06 07:16:43 MST --- See also: http://bugs.ghostscript.com/show_bug.cgi?id=687297 for further problems with the fonts from ftp://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/ghost/GPL/current/ghostscript-fonts-std-8.11.tar.bz2 Mandriva has included some fixes and we have included some fixes. It would be really nice if a new upstream release for ghostscript-fonts-std could be done which collects all available fixes. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188#c13 --- Comment #13 from Mike Fabian 2008-03-06 07:50:32 MST --- The tarball mentioned in the last comment of the upstream bug report http://bugs.ghostscript.com/show_bug.cgi?id=687297, i.e.

...

------- Additional Comment #24 From Valek Filippov 2007-08-06 14:40 -------

1.0.7pre43 was released. ftp://ftp.gnome.ru/fonts/urw/release/urw-fonts-1.0.7pre43.tar.bz2

Metrics have been checked against gs-fonts-6.0. Non-russian cyrillic glyphs were 'fixed or removed'.

seems to have disappeared, the directory ftp://ftp.gnome.ru/fonts/ is now empty. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188#c14 --- Comment #14 from Mike Fabian 2008-03-06 07:51:23 MST --- But I found a copy on this mirror: http://be.lunar-linux.org/lunar/mirrors/urw-fonts-1.0.7pre43.tar.bz2 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188#c15 --- Comment #15 from Mike Fabian 2008-03-06 07:53:15 MST --- Created an attachment (id=199177) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=199177) urw-fonts-1.0.7pre43.tar.bz2 Attaching the urw-fonts-1.0.7pre43.tar.bz2 for reference. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188#c16 --- Comment #16 from Mike Fabian 2008-03-06 07:59:39 MST --- By the way, the change from family: Nimbus Sans L style: Regular Condensed Italic to family: Nimbus Sans L Condensed style: Regular Italic is not in urw-fonts-1.0.7pre43.tar.bz2, this seems to be a Mandriva specific fix which I found only in urw-fonts-2.0-16.1mdk.tar.bz2 contained in the package Felix Miata pointed out in comment #9: http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/mandrivalinux/devel/cooker/SRPMS/main/release/... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188#c17 --- Comment #17 from Mike Fabian 2008-03-06 08:21:31 MST --- Created an attachment (id=199196) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=199196) nimbus-sans-l-in-font-selection-dialogs.png “Nimbus Sans L” in a GTK2 font selection dialog (left) and a KDE3 font selection dialog (right). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188#c18 --- Comment #18 from Mike Fabian 2008-03-06 08:31:12 MST --- The Mandriva fix appears reasonable to me because it makes the condensed font selectable in many applications where it currently cannot be used at all. As the screen shot in comment #17 shows, the font can be selected in GTK2 and it also can be selected in applications where you can give the full fontconfig specification like xfd -fa "Nimbus Sans L:style=Regular Condensed Italic" But it cannot be selected in KDE3/Qt3 KDE4/Qt4 OpenOffice Webpages ... probably many others ... because most applications (unfortunately) offer only the basic four styles “Regular”, “Italic”, “Bold”, and “Bold Italic”. Therefore, I think the Mandriva fix to move the “Condensed” in the family name is useful. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188#c19 --- Comment #19 from Mike Fabian 2008-03-06 10:46:08 MST --- Created an attachment (id=199247) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=199247) ghostscript-fonts-std-8.11.patch updated patch for the Ghostscript standard fonts. Contains some older fixes and renames the "Nimbus Sans L" condensed fonts. Thu Mar 06 17:30:39 CET 2008 - mfabian@suse.de - bnc#367188: for the condensed variants of "Nimbus Sans L", move the "Condensed" from the style to the end of the family name. Otherwise these fonts are not selectable in most applications. Submitted to STABLE/Factory. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188#c20 Mike Fabian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #20 from Mike Fabian 2008-03-06 10:49:08 MST --- I’m closing this bug as FIXED now because I have fixed the “Condensed” problem. For the other problems in the ghostscript-fonts-std-8.11 release, I think I’ll wait until something gets going upstream. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 User mrmazda@ij.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188#c21 --- Comment #21 from Felix Miata 2008-03-06 19:31:17 MST --- http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/fontconfig/2008-March/002887.html claims a fontconfig solution that seems like it could be simpler than patching pfb files, and a template for solutions for latent condensed or expanded styles. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188#c22 --- Comment #22 from Mike Fabian 2008-03-07 04:49:25 MST --- For a similar problem with the DejaVu fonts see bug #330658. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188#c23 --- Comment #23 from Mike Fabian 2008-03-07 08:09:53 MST --- Felix Miata> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/fontconfig/2008-March/002887.html Felix Miata> claims a fontconfig solution that seems like it could be Felix Miata> simpler than patching pfb files, and a template for Felix Miata> solutions for latent condensed or expanded styles. Yes, that’s what I ment in comment #5. It achieves about the same as editing the font files. Something like this is necessary if fonts are concerned which cannot be changed because of license reasons. In the case of the URW fonts, the license permits editing, i.e. we have both options. In this case, I think it is slightly better to edit the font files. I don’t like the fontconfig hack much because: Using the above hack in fontconfig: mfabian@magellan:~$ fc-list : family style width | grep Nimbus.*Condensed Nimbus Sans L Condensed:style=Bold Condensed Italic:width=75 Nimbus Sans L Condensed:style=Regular Condensed Italic:width=75 Nimbus Sans L Condensed:style=Regular Condensed:width=75 Nimbus Sans L Condensed:style=Bold Condensed:width=75 mfabian@magellan:~$ Editing the fonts like Mandriva does: fabian@magellan:~$ fc-list : family style width | grep Nimbus.*Condensed Nimbus Sans L Condensed:style=Regular:width=100 Nimbus Sans L Condensed:style=Regular Italic:width=100 Nimbus Sans L Condensed:style=Bold:width=100 Nimbus Sans L Condensed:style=Bold Italic:width=100 mfabian@magellan:~$ Notice the difference in the style names, the above fontconfig hack doesn’t yet remove the “Condensed” from the style names. Of course this can be done as well by using 4 fontconfig hacks as above one for each of the 4 fonts. But where shall this end? I agree with Nicolas Mailhot here: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/fontconfig/2008-March/002878.html Nicolas Mailhot> And then change wide narrow ultra-condensed Nicolas Mailhot> extra-condensed semi-condensed semi-expanded expanded Nicolas Mailhot> extra-expanded ultra-expanded fonts too to cater for Nicolas Mailhot> web designers that want the corresponding stretch Nicolas Mailhot> variants. I don’t think it is a good idea to pile up such hacks without limits in the fontconfig setup and maintain this forever. Changing the fonts seems to make some sense to me because: The "Nimbus Sans L" font is *intended* to be a replacement for "Helvetica" (and "Helvetica" clones like "Arial"). Therefore, it seems reasonable to me that the condensed version of "Nimbus Sans L" is intended to be a replacement for the condensed version of "Helvetica". The condensed version is called "Helvetica Narrow" in the family name and the condensed version of "Arial" is called "Arial Narrow" in the family name. I.e. look at the "Arial Narrow" which comes with Windows Vista: ARIALNBI.TTF: Arial Narrow:style=Bold Italic ARIALNI.TTF: Arial Narrow:style=Italic ARIALN.TTF: Arial Narrow:style=Regular ARIALNB.TTF: Arial Narrow:style=Bold If "Nimbus Sans L Condensed" is intended to be a replacement for these fonts, I think it is more reasonable to have the Condensed in the family name and not in the style name because it is closer to what "Helvetica Narrow" and "Arial Narrow" do. I.e. original naming scheme of the condensed version of "Nimbus Sans L" seems like an unintentional bug to me which is really "fixed" the way Mandriva does it. By the way, I agree with most of what Nicolas Mailhot wrote on the fontconfig list on the above thread. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 367188] web apps cannot find Nimbus Sans L Condensed

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188 User mrmazda@ij.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=367188#c24 --- Comment #24 from Felix Miata 2008-03-15 18:45:43 MST --- Fix is apparent in ghostscript-fonts-std-8.61-2 using Firefox, Konq & Opera on Optional Fields URL. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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[Bug 367188] New: web apps cannot find Nimbus Sans L Condensed

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