[Bug 662159] New: Palatino displays with ligatures on 2, 4, 5, 6 and 9 (figbas plrj.pfb from Tex)

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159#c0 Summary: Palatino displays with ligatures on 2, 4, 5, 6 and 9 (figbas plrj.pfb from Tex) Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE 11.3 Version: Final Platform: x86-64 OS/Version: openSUSE 11.3 Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: X.Org AssignedTo: bnc-team-xorg-bugs@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: andrew@acooke.org QAContact: xorg-maintainer-bugs@forge.provo.novell.com Found By: --- Blocker: --- Created an attachment (id=406810) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=406810) Screenshot of the above, with source edited to include digits 1-9 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/8.0.552.215 Safari/534.10 Web pages that include digits in the Palatino font display with unusual ligatures. I will include a screenshot. It turns out that the file /usr/share/texmf/fonts/type1/public/figbas/plrj.pfb which is a specialised font for "figured-bass notation in baroque music" is being used as Palatino (it should modiy Palatino to give a dedicated, obscure font that no-one except early music freaks will ever use). For more details see https://www.quora.com/Typefaces/Why-is-Palatino-displaying-2-with-a-vertical... (you will need to click on "more" to see all the information). Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. make sure that Latex is installed 2. view a web page like http://www.satine.org/archives/2011/01/01/the-care-and-feeding-of-the-androi... that includes Palatino 3. you should see something like the enclosed screenshot fragment. Actual Results: The numbers 2,4,5,6 and 9 have additional ligatures. Expected Results: Th eligatures should not be present. As far as I know my setup is standard, yet I can find no evidence that anyone else has seen this bug. Please see the Quora link for more details. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 662159] Palatino displays with ligatures on 2, 4, 5, 6 and 9 (figbas plrj.pfb from Tex)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159#c Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P3 - Medium Status|NEW |ASSIGNED AssignedTo|bnc-team-xorg-bugs@forge.pr |sndirsch@novell.com |ovo.novell.com | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 662159] Palatino displays with ligatures on 2, 4, 5, 6 and 9 (figbas plrj.pfb from Tex)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159#c1 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |werner@novell.com --- Comment #1 from Stefan Dirsch 2011-01-04 13:19:28 UTC --- I can see that issue when displaying the font with xfd -fn "-urw-palatino-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific" after creating fonts.dir/fonts.scale via mkfontscale/mkfontdir and running 'xset fp rehash' afterwards. I also see the issue with xfd -fa "Palatino" after creating the fontconfig cache with fc-cache. Apparently the font only contains the numbers 2,4,5,6 and 9. Could it be that the font is already broken and not the rendering? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 662159] Palatino displays with ligatures on 2, 4, 5, 6 and 9 (figbas plrj.pfb from Tex)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159#c2 --- Comment #2 from andrew cooke 2011-01-04 13:25:00 UTC --- My limited understanding from http://cg.scs.carleton.ca/~luc/tex.html is that this is what the font is supposed to do, but that those digits should be in the font named FiguredBassPalatino rather than Palatino. In other words, the plrj font is something like a "patch" that extends Palatino to add these digits. But I really don't understand fonts in detail. Note that there are other fonts (cmrj, cmssj) which should do the same to CMR and CMRSS - maybe checking if those work (they should give FiguredBassComputerModern, FiguredBassComputerModernSans) would help? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 662159] Palatino displays with ligatures on 2, 4, 5, 6 and 9 (figbas plrj.pfb from Tex)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159#c3 --- Comment #3 from andrew cooke 2011-01-04 13:25:53 UTC --- (So what I am trying to say is that it's not exactly the font that's broken. but the name of the result) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 662159] Palatino displays with ligatures on 2, 4, 5, 6 and 9 (figbas plrj.pfb from Tex)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159#c4 --- Comment #4 from andrew cooke 2011-01-04 13:52:24 UTC --- Sorry, I just understood what you are saying, I think. If this is defining *ligatures* for the character combination "2+" why is it being displayed for "2"? And I imagine it could be a problem with either the font or rendering. Sorry I am not more help (I can't even see this any more - I deleted the file and rebuilt my fonts to remove the mess). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 662159] Palatino displays with ligatures on 2, 4, 5, 6 and 9 (figbas plrj.pfb from Tex)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159#c5 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|X.Org |Other AssignedTo|sndirsch@novell.com |bnc-team-screening@forge.pr | |ovo.novell.com QAContact|xorg-maintainer-bugs@forge. |qa@suse.de |provo.novell.com | --- Comment #5 from Stefan Dirsch 2011-01-04 15:02:05 UTC --- My guess is that the font meta data is wrong. # fc-query plrj.pfb Pattern has 15 elts (size 16) family: "Palatino"(s) style: "Medium"(s) [...] # fc-query cmssj.pfb Pattern has 15 elts (size 16) family: "ComputerModernSans"(s) style: "Medium"(s) [...] # fc-query cmrj.pfb Pattern has 15 elts (size 16) family: "ComputerModern"(s) style: "Medium"(s) [...] Hence reassigning to Werner. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 662159] Palatino displays with ligatures on 2, 4, 5, 6 and 9 (figbas plrj.pfb from Tex)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159#c Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.pr |werner@novell.com |ovo.novell.com | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 662159] Palatino displays with ligatures on 2, 4, 5, 6 and 9 (figbas plrj.pfb from Tex)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159#c6 --- Comment #6 from Stefan Dirsch 2011-01-04 22:28:53 UTC --- (In reply to comment #4)

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If this is defining *ligatures* for the character combination "2+" why is it being displayed for "2"? And I imagine it could be a problem with either the font or rendering.

These special glyphs for 2,4,5.6 and 9 are at the regular position of 2,4,5,6 and 9. Compare with "xfd -fn fixed". -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 662159] Palatino displays with ligatures on 2, 4, 5, 6 and 9 (figbas plrj.pfb from Tex)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159#c7 --- Comment #7 from andrew cooke 2011-01-04 22:30:21 UTC --- Ah, OK, so that sounds just wrong. Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 662159] Palatino displays with ligatures on 2, 4, 5, 6 and 9 (figbas plrj.pfb from Tex)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159#c8 Dr. Werner Fink changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED Resolution| |UPSTREAM --- Comment #8 from Dr. Werner Fink 2011-01-10 14:13:25 UTC --- I'll not gone to fix this as I'm only the maintainer of TeXLive, please report this issue upstream. Otherrwise the tex fonts of upstream and opensuse will differ which is not what I want. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 662159] Palatino displays with ligatures on 2, 4, 5, 6 and 9 (figbas plrj.pfb from Tex)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159#c9 --- Comment #9 from andrew cooke 2011-01-10 14:18:03 UTC --- OK, so if it's too much effort for you to report "upstream" can you at least explain who I need to report this to? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 662159] Palatino displays with ligatures on 2, 4, 5, 6 and 9 (figbas plrj.pfb from Tex)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159#c10 --- Comment #10 from Dr. Werner Fink 2011-01-10 14:55:06 UTC --- You may use tex-live@tug.org (the mail address of Young Ryu I'm not knowing). On the other hand you may disable Type1 fonts from TeXLive for the X11 Window System, that is you may comment out the lines /usr/share/texmf/fonts/type1 and /usr/local/share/texmf/fonts/type1 by surrounding them with  pairs in /etc/fonts/conf.d/09-texlive.conf or simply remove those lines. For the next release of texlive I've already splitted off this part. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159#c11 --- Comment #11 from andrew cooke 2011-01-10 15:13:37 UTC --- Thanks: https://www.tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2011-January/028355.html -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159#c12 --- Comment #12 from Dr. Werner Fink 2011-01-10 16:12:48 UTC --- Thanks a lot, let's see what happens. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 662159] Palatino displays with ligatures on 2, 4, 5, 6 and 9 (figbas plrj.pfb from Tex)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159#c13 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Resolution|UPSTREAM |FIXED --- Comment #13 from Stefan Dirsch 2011-01-10 16:14:06 UTC --- Thanks, Werner for fixing that issue for openSuSE 11.4. "Upstream" is pretty clear, that these fonts are not supposed to be used by fontconfig at all. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 662159] Palatino displays with ligatures on 2, 4, 5, 6 and 9 (figbas plrj.pfb from Tex)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159#c14 --- Comment #14 from Stefan Dirsch 2011-01-10 16:15:01 UTC --- (In reply to comment #12)

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Thanks a lot, let's see what happens.

https://www.tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2011-January/028358.html I believe that's all we need to know. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159#c15 --- Comment #15 from Dr. Werner Fink 2011-01-10 16:21:03 UTC --- For 11.4 this should not happen anymore, see comment #10. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159#c16 Bob Tennent changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |rdtennent@gmail.com --- Comment #16 from Bob Tennent 2011-01-10 17:29:05 UTC --- I'm the developer of the figbas fonts. The information in the .pfb file says that the Fontname is FiguredBassPalatino and the Family Name is Palatino. It seems that SUSE is using this font for rendering digits. I'm not familiar with how SUSE selects fonts but I think this is their issue. As far as I know, the font information is correct; if not I'll change it but I'll need authoritative guidance. Bob Tennent -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662159#c17 --- Comment #17 from Bob Tennent 2011-01-10 19:51:15 UTC --- I've changed the Postscript Fontnames to avoid conflicts with Palatino (and avoid trademark issues). The revised figbas package has been submitted to CTAN. The TeXLive package will in due course be updated. Thanks Andrew for reporting the problem. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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