https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315030 Cyril Hrubis changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com |lslezak@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315030#c2 Maciej Pilichowski changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID | --- Comment #2 from Maciej Pilichowski 2007-09-20 06:14:56 MST --- Ladislav, it is a wish, not a bug, and not a forum-like question "how to do it"?. Yast does not have rollback feature, so the wish stands for adding a small info, so the user could do it on his own. So thank you for the answer, but you gave workarounds. Helpful but they will not improve yast a bit, right? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315030#c4 Maciej Pilichowski changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |REOPENED Info Provider|bluedzins@wp.pl | --- Comment #4 from Maciej Pilichowski 2007-09-20 08:29:20 MST ---

The more information is displayed the more confused (esp. beginner) users.

In this case -- I doubt it. All columns I have are off the screen and this is like this for a looong time.

the only way would be to display it optionally.

I wouldn't mind it. However I think fixed columns are better approach, I teach people how to use computers (at many levels) and I didn't see that info "installation time" with date&time could confuse somebody. Besides -- we are talking about yast/SM.

And the rollback must be performed manually by an experienced user

? If user is "experienced" enough to check the package to install she/he is experienced enough to check it for delete. Besides, what you have to offer to intermediate user? Completely beginner rather won't start SM, guru will handle the problem, what about the rest?

who should know how to get list of recently installed packages ('rpm -qa --last').

I didn't it :-) GUI simplifies a lot of things. In case of rpm you have to either read manual or to know in advance the solution. In GUI world you go with the flow, you can use what you see right away.

I can't see any advantage here. Or how it could help?

Ladislav, what is the point of this whole Yast/SM thing? All things you can do with bare rpm, right? So the advantage is still the same -- productivity. Let's imagine SM with this feature. I run SM, click on install.date column, I check five top packages to delete, I click accept. Now, rpm version. # man rpm oh boy, what should I look for? installed? installation? time? maybe I'd better use google... # gg:rpm sort installation time # rpm -qa --queryformat '%{installtime} %{name}-%{version}-%{release} %{installtime:date}\n' | sort -nr +1 | sed -e 's/^[^ ]* //' It was the best I could find for several minutes. After looking at this I feel like I am not worth using Linux, because I don't have time to study this. And except for admins I doubt there anybody have so much time to perform simple tasks studying so much. And what's more, this does not work. Ok, let's add magic, somehow user found out the solution # rpm -qa --last oh wait, stop, gosh, the list is too long # rpm -qa --last | more # ctrl+n (new tab in Konsole) # rpm -e # tab, mouse sel, crtrl+c god, ctrl+ins # shift+up # ctrl+ins, tab, shift+ins, tab # mouse sel, ctrl+ins, tab, shift+ins, tab # mouse sel, ctrl+ins, tab, shift+ins, tab # mouse sel, ctrl+ins, tab, shift+ins, tab # mouse sel, ctrl+ins, tab, shift+ins, tab ok, we are done # tab # enter Oki doki, that was easy ;-DD Ladislav, come on :-) GUI was "invented" just for such tasks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315030#c6 Stefan Hundhammer changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|sh@novell.com |kkaempf@novell.com Component|YaST2 |libzypp QAContact|jsrain@novell.com |kkaempf@novell.com --- Comment #6 from Stefan Hundhammer 2007-09-24 04:05:08 MST --- AFAICS the information is not even there yet, so it would have to be implemented in libzypp first. But for sure this is not going to be yet another column in an already very overcrowded list. We could add it do the "technical data" details view, though. -> libzypp maintainers to provide the data, please reassign back when they are available. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315030#c8 Klaus Kämpf changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |LATER --- Comment #8 from Klaus Kämpf 2007-09-24 05:54:25 MST --- We're planning for this -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315030#c11 Klaus Kämpf changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|kkaempf@novell.com |dmacvicar@novell.com Status|REOPENED |NEW --- Comment #11 from Klaus Kämpf 2007-10-19 07:31:28 MST --- "rpm -qa --last" provides this data and should be used initially. Long term goal is a complete log of changes, incl. repositories, updates, etc. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.