https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=675416 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=675416#c1 --- Comment #1 from Stefan Dirsch 2011-02-27 09:07:15 UTC --- Well, not sure how to do it right here. We no longer use xorg.conf since openSUSE 11.3, so there must be a reason why this file is still there. Either since a) the user created it manually (for some reason) or because b) (s)he've updated from earlier versions to openSUSE 11.3. Due to possible reason a) it would be obviously wrong to simply remove this file. Switching to nouveau instead of nv could also be wrong if the user disabled KMS (as kernel boot option or via modprobe.d option; hard to figure out during a system update). Since then the nouveau driver won't start either. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=675416 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=675416#c3 --- Comment #3 from Stefan Dirsch 2011-02-27 19:43:11 UTC --- (In reply to comment #2)

I understand. So I would like to concentrate on the issue that the "nv" driver does not work at all ("The PCI device [...] has a kernel module claiming it."). Is nv unsupported now?

nv is a UMS (user mode setting) driver. This conflicts with the KMS (kernel mode setting) nouveau driver kernel module. Hence it's correct behaviour of nv driver to bail out in this case.

If unsupported, the update process shouldn't try to change nvidia to nv.

See above.

At least a hint should be shown to the user,

.. which is not possible during system update. :-(

especially as I think that a lot of people have been using the "nvidia" driver in the past (desktop effects were not really possible with nv, and before nouveau got enough stability and availablity).

But I believe not so many users are updating since openSUSE 11.2. And hopefully a lot of users are using the RPMs from the community repo at NVIDIA or at least don't create any xorg.conf file (which is not required at all to use the NVIDIA driver, since this driver has the highest priority). SInce I didn't mention it yet, leaving the nvidia driver entry in xorg.conf would be wrong as well.

--- Additional information for understanding my setup --------------- I did the following update scheme:

openSUSE 11.2 New install openSUSE 11.3 Update openSUSE 11.4RC2 Update This qualfies for b)

Also I switched to nvidia driver (using nvidia-xconfig IIRC) in both 11.2 and 11.3, which qualifies for a).

Yes.

I am wondering whether the latter (using the nvidia driver) is be a fairly standard option for many users. xorg.conf would be in use then,

.. which is a wrong assumption (see above).

and should be a supported update option.

Proprietary drivers have never been supported. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=675416 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=675416#c5 Richard Bos changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |richard.bos@xs4all.nl --- Comment #5 from Richard Bos 2011-03-12 18:39:44 UTC --- Christian, thanks a lot for your bug report! Your remark about removing Xorg.conf saved my day!!!! Before no GUI, afterwards a full blown desktop. One more time, thanks a lot! -- Richard -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.