[Bug 265263] New: Corrupted message box issued by YaST on finishing Software Update

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17 Apr 2007 17 Apr '07

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 Summary: Corrupted message box issued by YaST on finishing Software Update Product: openSUSE 10.3 Version: Alpha 3 Platform: x86 OS/Version: openSUSE 10.3 Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: YaST2 AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: casualprogrammer@yahoo.com QAContact: jsrain@novell.com After the current update to openSuSE 10.3 alpha3plus YaST 2.15.28-2 issues a corrupted message box on completing software updates, offering OK as only option, text is unreadable. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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17 Apr 17 Apr

10:53

New subject: [Bug 265263] Corrupted message box issued by YaST on finishing Software Update

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 ------- Comment #1 from casualprogrammer@yahoo.com 2007-04-17 04:53 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=131698) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=131698&action=view) Screenshot of message box To create: Start yast, then chose "Software Management", filter "Installation Summary", check "Keep", from the context menu of a random entry chose "All in this list/update if newer version available" then "Accept" -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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New subject: [Bug 265263] Corrupted message box issued by YaST on finishing Software Update

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 ------- Comment #2 from casualprogrammer@yahoo.com 2007-04-17 09:02 MST ------- To create: Start yast, then chose "Software Management", then "Accept" -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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15:07

New subject: [Bug 265263] Corrupted message box issued by YaST on finishing Software Update

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 ------- Comment #3 from casualprogrammer@yahoo.com 2007-04-17 09:07 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=131828) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=131828&action=view) resized xmessage window This actually also happens when starting YaST and closing it. The window can be resized, then the window dressing becomes visible. It's called "xmessage" and contains just some vertical lines on the left edge. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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15:09

New subject: [Bug 265263] Corrupted message box issued by YaST on finishing Software Update

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 ------- Comment #4 from casualprogrammer@yahoo.com 2007-04-17 09:09 MST ------- Addenda: when calling yast as root from a terminal, this does not happen. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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20 Apr 20 Apr

12:35

New subject: [Bug 265263] Corrupted message box issued by YaST on finishing Software Update

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 mhorvath@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |casualprogrammer@yahoo.com ------- Comment #5 from mhorvath@novell.com 2007-04-20 06:35 MST ------- Please attach your yast logs. http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs/YaST -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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New subject: [Bug 265263] Corrupted message box issued by YaST on finishing Software Update

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 ------- Comment #6 from casualprogrammer@yahoo.com 2007-04-20 08:44 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=132881) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=132881&action=view) yast2logs -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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16:59

New subject: [Bug 265263] Corrupted message box issued by YaST on finishing Software Update

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 casualprogrammer@yahoo.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|casualprogrammer@yahoo.com | ------- Comment #7 from casualprogrammer@yahoo.com 2007-04-20 10:59 MST ------- Actually it is an empty xmessage ( x-window echo ) window. This must be initiated in some YaST related script, probably for debugging ? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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23 Apr 23 Apr

11:09

New subject: [Bug 265263] Corrupted message box issued by YaST on finishing Software Update

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 mhorvath@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team- |lslezak@novell.com |screening@forge.provo.novell| |.com | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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12:19

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 mvidner@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|lslezak@novell.com |mvidner@novell.com Status|NEW |ASSIGNED ------- Comment #8 from mvidner@novell.com 2007-04-23 06:19 MST ------- Yes, xmessage, see also bug 211392. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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28 Apr 28 Apr

08:59

New subject: [Bug 265263] xmessage issued by YaST on finishing Software Update

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 casualprogrammer@yahoo.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|Corrupted message box issued|xmessage issued by YaST on finishing Software |by YaST on finishing |Update |Software Update | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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09:05

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 ------- Comment #9 from casualprogrammer@yahoo.com 2007-04-28 03:05 MST ------- This is actually caused by /sbin/yast2

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From line 20 it has:

# #211392 # if we are in X and do not have _input_ from terminal, # make it output to xmessage redirect() { XMESSAGE=`type -p xmessage` if $REDIRECT && [ -n "$DISPLAY" -a ! -t 0 -a -n "$XMESSAGE" ]; then exec &> >($XMESSAGE -buttons OK:0 -default OK -center -file -) fi } This does not seem to meet normal requirements. Starting YaST from the menu surely requires to be in X, and just as sure does not give input from terminal. So an xmessage is raised anytime YaST feels like talking to us. Might be nice as debugging feature, otherwise it's just confusing. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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09:08

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 ------- Comment #10 from casualprogrammer@yahoo.com 2007-04-28 03:08 MST ------- Fixed it for me: Commenting out /sbin/yast2 line 32: # redirect -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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30 Apr 30 Apr

10:15

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 gp@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |gp@novell.com Platform|x86 |All ------- Comment #11 from gp@novell.com 2007-04-30 04:15 MST ------- I have also been seeing this for some time, on STABLE x86-64. Changing architecture to "All". -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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9 May 9 May

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 locilka@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |stbinner@novell.com ------- Comment #12 from locilka@novell.com 2007-05-09 02:09 MST ------- *** Bug 271245 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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14 May 14 May

11:11

New subject: [Bug 265263] xmessage issued by YaST on finishing Software Update

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 ------- Comment #14 from casualprogrammer@yahoo.com 2007-05-14 05:11 MST ------- This obviously is caused by the "Solution" to Bug 211392, not sure whether this would not be possible without throwing xmessages at everybody. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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17 May 17 May

22:01

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 zajec5@gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |silviu_marin-caea@otpbank.ro ------- Comment #15 from zajec5@gmail.com 2007-05-17 16:01 MST ------- *** Bug 275198 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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18 May 18 May

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 stbinner@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|Normal |Major Version|Alpha 3 |Alpha 4 ------- Comment #16 from stbinner@novell.com 2007-05-18 08:09 MST ------- Still happening and annyoing/very visible. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 ------- Comment #17 from jt@newmarket.k12.nh.us 2007-05-18 11:09 MST ------- Hello, I just installed alpha4 w\gnome and let it update, I am also getting a lot of "xmesage" screens referring to /usr/share/themes/Gilouche/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:42:Clearlooks configuration option "xxxx" is not supported and will be ignore. James -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 stbinner@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|xmessage issued by YaST on |xmessage issued by YaST on finishing every |finishing Software Update |module -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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21 May 21 May

06:37

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 stbinner@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |ra100@atlas.cz ------- Comment #18 from stbinner@novell.com 2007-05-21 00:37 MST ------- *** Bug 276479 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 kmachalkova@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED ------- Comment #19 from kmachalkova@novell.com 2007-05-21 08:39 MST ------- Fixed in svn, for the next build (yast2-2.15.34) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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1 Jun 1 Jun

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 mhorvath@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |cgroneman@gmail.com ------- Comment #20 from mhorvath@novell.com 2007-06-01 11:13 MST ------- *** Bug 280068 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 ------- Comment #21 from casualprogrammer@yahoo.com 2007-06-01 14:51 MST ------- Katarina: what exactly did you fix ? I still experience it with 2.15.34-4, only solution for me see comment #10 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 casualprogrammer@yahoo.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|FIXED | ------- Comment #22 from casualprogrammer@yahoo.com 2007-06-01 14:52 MST ------- just to change to reopened -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 ------- Comment #23 from casualprogrammer@yahoo.com 2007-06-02 10:15 MST ------- Seems to be OK now with 2.15.35-2 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 ------- Comment #24 from casualprogrammer@yahoo.com 2007-06-02 10:18 MST ------- Not really :-( -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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5 Jun 5 Jun

05:48

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 ------- Comment #25 from silviu_marin-caea@otpbank.ro 2007-06-04 23:48 MST ------- I have yast2-2.15.35-4 from Factory and it works for me. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 ------- Comment #26 from casualprogrammer@yahoo.com 2007-06-05 00:52 MST ------- So then there must be a difference between your ( comment #25 ) and my setup: I am using openSuSE 10.3 alpha4plus kernel 2.6.22-rc2-git7-2-default with Gnome and YaST QT, yast2 is at 2.15.35-3 i586. Not sure how you can have yast2-2.15.35-4, as yast2 is at 2.15.35-3 i586 is the latest version offered from factory ( according to my /sbin/yast2 sw_single ) When I call yast2 from a terminal, then obviously, the x-message is not issued, as explained in comment # 9. If I start YaST from the GUI however, ( Computer / More Applications... / System / YaST ), and start any module, the x-message is issued on closing YaST ( Not closing the module, only when YaSt is closed completely ) As I pointed out in comment #9: "Starting YaST from the menu surely requires to be in X, and just as sure does not give input from terminal. So an x-message is raised anytime YaST feels like talking to us. Might be nice as debugging feature, otherwise it's just confusing." And as pointed out in comment #10: Commenting out /sbin/yast2 line 32: # redirect Only change so far is, that it's now in line 43 instead of 32 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 ------- Comment #27 from silviu_marin-caea@otpbank.ro 2007-06-05 01:40 MST ------- I have x86_64. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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21 Jun 21 Jun

20:01

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c28 Stephan Binner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |romain.pelissier@gmail.com --- Comment #28 from Stephan Binner 2007-06-21 14:01:45 MST --- *** Bug 286477 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=286477 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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22 Jun 22 Jun

01:48

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c29 --- Comment #29 from Chad Groneman 2007-06-21 19:48:21 MST --- Created an attachment (id=147809) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=147809) The XMessage window WITH a message! I ran YaST from GNOME and this time when it quit, it gave a non-empty xmessage. Hope it's useful. I got this with Alpha5. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c30 --- Comment #30 from Stephan Binner 2007-06-21 20:33:29 MST --- Comment #29 is a separate problem and is dealt with in bug 265386. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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23 Jun 23 Jun

23:28

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c31 James Tremblay changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |jt@newmarket.k12.nh.us Severity|Major |Normal Priority|P5 - None |P3 - Medium Version|Alpha 4 |Alpha 5 --- Comment #31 from James Tremblay 2007-06-23 17:28:14 MST --- on fresh install of 10.3 a5, xmessage screen stills showing up after closing YaST /usr/share/themes/Gilouche/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:42: Clearlooks configuration option "menuitemstyle" is not supported and will be ignored. /usr/share/themes/Gilouche/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:43: Clearlooks configuration option "listviewitemstyle" is not supported and will be ignored. /usr/share/themes/Gilouche/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:44: Clearlooks configuration option "progressbarstyle" is not supported and will be ignored. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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24 Jun 24 Jun

02:57

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c32 Stephan Binner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|Normal |Major --- Comment #32 from Stephan Binner 2007-06-23 20:57:38 MST --- James, why did you decrease severity? And did you read comments 29 and 30? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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25 Jun 25 Jun

11:22

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c33 --- Comment #33 from James Tremblay 2007-06-25 05:22:49 MST --- Don't remember decreasing severity.....I did read the thread and it isn't limited to Gilouche so this one fits my findings better...please forgive my noobness. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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13 Jul 13 Jul

12:03

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c34 Stephan Binner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #34 from Stephan Binner 2007-07-13 06:03:14 MST --- I does not encounter this anymore with Factory. Please reopen if it still occurs for you with Alpha 6. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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21 Jul 21 Jul

16:55

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c35 Casual J. Programmer changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |casualprogrammer@yahoo.com Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|FIXED | --- Comment #35 from Casual J. Programmer 2007-07-21 10:55:45 MST --- After a clean install from alpha6 DVD the x-message is there again, not on closing any single module, but on exiting yast2, listing what modules have been run. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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27 Jul 27 Jul

20:23

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c36 --- Comment #36 from Romain Pelissier 2007-07-27 14:23:41 MST --- I have updated from alpha 5 to 6 and I do not have the x message again. I will try a clean install for the next release to see if it is still there. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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20:35

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c37 --- Comment #37 from Casual J. Programmer 2007-07-27 14:35:53 MST --- see comments #9 and #10, also I'm using Gnome Desktop ( shouldn't really make a difference ) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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8 Aug 8 Aug

06:36

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c38 Stanislav Visnovsky changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |casualprogrammer@yahoo.com --- Comment #38 from Stanislav Visnovsky 2007-08-08 00:36:17 MST --- Please, test with latest alpha/beta1 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c39 --- Comment #39 from Casual J. Programmer 2007-08-08 01:50:44 MST --- Still there cat /etc/SuSE-releaseopenSUSE 10.3 (i586) Beta1 VERSION = 10.3 cat /etc/SuSE-releaseopenSUSE 10.3 (i586) Beta1 VERSION = 10.3 rpm -qa | grep yast yast2-perl-bindings-2.15.1-20 yast2-country-2.15.14-8 yast2-firewall-2.15.7-7 yast2-x11-2.15.10-29 yast2-network-2.15.55-9 yast2-online-update-frontend-2.15.20-2 yast2-http-server-2.15.6-8 yast2-tune-2.15.6-35 yast2-ftp-server-2.15.8-2 yast2-slp-2.14.1-72 yast2-printer-2.15.3-7 yast2-pam-2.14.0-97 yast2-packager-2.15.53-2 yast2-metapackage-handler-0.4.1-2 yast2-dns-server-2.15.3-46 yast2-samba-server-2.15.7-22 yast2-backup-2.15.4-14 yast2-control-center-gnome-2.13.2-55 yast2-trans-en_US-2.15.1-7 yast2-core-2.15.6-34 yast2-hardware-detection-2.15.8-8 yast2-2.15.45-2 yast2-nfs-client-2.14.0-70 yast2-nis-client-2.15.2-48 yast2-security-2.15.0-58 yast2-iscsi-client-2.15.2-8 yast2-users-2.15.34-2 yast2-storage-2.15.19-9 yast2-ldap-server-2.15.5-45 yast2-qt-2.15.9-2 yast2-mouse-2.15.1-50 yast2-bluetooth-2.15.2-29 yast2-support-2.15.2-41 autoyast2-installation-2.15.13-11 autoyast2-2.15.13-11 yast2-restore-2.15.2-6 yast2-nfs-server-2.15.3-50 yast2-gtk-2.15.7-8 yast2-xml-2.15.0-35 yast2-ldap-2.15.1-52 yast2-control-center-qt-2.15.1-2 yast2-ntp-client-2.15.5-8 yast2-samba-client-2.15.11-2 yast2-registration-2.15.0-2 yast2-bootloader-2.15.14-8 yast2-repair-2.15.7-23 yast2-theme-openSUSE-2.15.6-2 yast2-pkg-bindings-2.15.40-2 yast2-apparmor-2.0.2-14 yast2-irda-2.15.1-63 yast2-scanner-2.15.5-11 yast2-update-2.15.19-2 yast2-profile-manager-2.15.0-17 yast2-mail-2.15.9-37 yast2-schema-2.15.0-73 yast2-transfer-2.14.0-76 yast2-sound-2.15.9-2 yast2-runlevel-2.15.2-12 yast2-kerberos-client-2.15.6-14 yast2-online-update-2.15.20-2 yast2-installation-2.15.39-2 yast2-sudo-2.15.3-51 yast2-power-management-2.15.1-24 yast2-storage-lib-2.15.19-9 yast2-trans-stats-2.15.0-11 yast2-ncurses-2.15.21-10 yast2-control-center-2.15.1-2 yast2-ca-management-2.15.1-13 yast2-sysconfig-2.15.3-27 yast2-tv-2.15.6-20 yast2-ldap-client-2.15.12-2 yast2-inetd-2.15.1-6 yast2-add-on-2.15.10-15 yast2-tftp-server-2.14.0-74 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 265263] xmessage issued by YaST on finishing every module

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 Casual J. Programmer changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|casualprogrammer@yahoo.com | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c40 --- Comment #40 from Casual J. Programmer 2007-08-08 02:00:57 MST --- Just to be precise: The x-message is asserted on terminating YaST Control Center after having invoked modules, it lists all modules that have been used as i.e.: Command: /sbin/yast2 sw_single & Command: /sbin/yast2 users & Command: /sbin/yast2 inst_source & If no module is invoked and YaST Control Center is closed, no x-message is asserted. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c41 Stanislav Visnovsky changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |visnov@novell.com Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |casualprogrammer@yahoo.com --- Comment #41 from Stanislav Visnovsky 2007-08-17 02:40:24 MST --- Are you using GNOME or KDE? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 265263] xmessage issued by YaST on finishing every module

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c42 Aaron Bockover changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |abockover@novell.com --- Comment #42 from Aaron Bockover 2007-08-24 16:54:36 MST --- This is still an issue in Beta 2. I see it whenever using a YaST module launched from the new GTK shell in GNOME (in reply to comment #41). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c43 Stephan Binner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |snwint@novell.com --- Comment #43 from Stephan Binner 2007-08-25 02:54:36 MST --- *** Bug 304312 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=304312 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 265263] xmessage issued by YaST on finishing every module

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c44 Steffen Winterfeldt changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|Major |Critical Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|casualprogrammer@yahoo.com | Version|Alpha 5 |Beta 2 --- Comment #44 from Steffen Winterfeldt 2007-08-27 03:43:45 MST --- for what it's worth: happens for me with KDE -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c45 Stefan Hundhammer changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |sh@novell.com --- Comment #45 from Stefan Hundhammer 2007-08-27 06:27:46 MST --- I don't know if this is feasible, but maybe we can somehow change this so the xmessage window only appears if there is a serious error condition, like - y2base segfaults or terminates via other signal - y2base returns with non-zero exit status In that case, messages printed to stderr / stdout might really be worthwhile to display with "xmessage". But in the non-error case I fully agree that it's just annoying. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 265263] xmessage issued by YaST on finishing every module

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c47 Stephan Binner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |coyli@novell.com --- Comment #47 from Stephan Binner 2007-08-29 05:28:31 MST --- *** Bug 305822 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=305822 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 265263] xmessage issued by YaST on finishing every module

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c48 --- Comment #48 from Aaron Bockover 2007-08-29 09:29:45 MST --- For one, I would _never_ want to see xmessage in any shape or form. If YaST segfaults, well, we have bug buddy on GNOME, etc. Maybe the GTK front end should integrate with that. If you absolutely have to show the user a cryptic error message, at least do so in a native UI - use zenity if on GNOME or XFCE, kdialog on KDE, and xmessage as a complete last resort fallback. Also, all of the cryptic messages that are being debated here for showing to users should be logged in ~/.xession-errors anyway - if a user advanced enough to understand the error really cares about said error - they will probably know where to find it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 265263] xmessage issued by YaST on finishing every module

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c49 --- Comment #49 from Stefan Hundhammer 2007-08-29 11:11:08 MST --- (In reply to comment #48 from Aaron Bockover)

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For one, I would _never_ want to see xmessage in any shape or form.

Nobody wants that. But then, nobody ever wants bad news. But should that mean that bad news simply always gets suppressed?

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If YaST segfaults, well, we have bug buddy on GNOME, etc. Maybe the GTK front end should integrate with that. If you absolutely have to show the user a cryptic error message, at least do so in a native UI - use zenity if on GNOME or XFCE, kdialog on KDE, and xmessage as a complete last resort fallback.

That would be beautifying the display of error messages and, a lot worse, maintaining a zillion error message beautifiers in all shapes of sizes. Does that really make any sense to you? I vote strictly against this. This would just be code bloat and a maintenance nightmare.

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Also, all of the cryptic messages that are being debated here for showing to users should be logged in ~/.xession-errors anyway - if a user advanced enough to understand the error really cares about said error - they will probably know where to find it.

I fear you overestimate even advanced users. I have yet to receive the first bug report where a user looked in ~/.xsession-errors. All we ever get in such cases is "it doesn't start". We didn't add that "xmessage" just for the fun of it. If there was no reason for it, we'd have kept the start script simple. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 265263] xmessage issued by YaST on finishing every module

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c50 --- Comment #50 from Aaron Bockover 2007-08-29 12:11:48 MST --- (In reply to comment #49 from Stefan Hundhammer)

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(In reply to comment #48 from Aaron Bockover)

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For one, I would _never_ want to see xmessage in any shape or form.

Nobody wants that. But then, nobody ever wants bad news. But should that mean that bad news simply always gets suppressed?

I'm not saying the messages should be suppressed. (speaking as average joe user) I just don't want to know about it. Why would I really care that yast segfaulted? I can't do anything about it. I'm going to file a bug, if I care that much, but I don't care about the details of the crash. This is why I suggested integrating the front ends with the crash handlers (i.e. Bug Buddy in GNOME). If the GTK front end were integrated with Bug Buddy, the crash handling UI would be consistent for 1, handle the ugly details of capturing crash information for 2, and make the bug reporting process simple and mostly transparent for 3.

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If YaST segfaults, well, we have bug buddy on GNOME, etc. Maybe the GTK front end should integrate with that. If you absolutely have to show the user a cryptic error message, at least do so in a native UI - use zenity if on GNOME or XFCE, kdialog on KDE, and xmessage as a complete last resort fallback.

That would be beautifying the display of error messages and, a lot worse, maintaining a zillion error message beautifiers in all shapes of sizes. Does that really make any sense to you?

It makes a lot of sense to me. You're talking about maybe 15 lines of bash here. I did just this in the opensuse-codecs-installer, and the use case is more complicated than what is required here. It should ideally be an xdg script.

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I vote strictly against this. This would just be code bloat and a maintenance nightmare.

I think you are exaggerating, but I respect your strong convictions.

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Also, all of the cryptic messages that are being debated here for showing to users should be logged in ~/.xession-errors anyway - if a user advanced enough to understand the error really cares about said error - they will probably know where to find it.

I fear you overestimate even advanced users. I have yet to receive the first bug report where a user looked in ~/.xsession-errors. All we ever get in such cases is "it doesn't start".

I fear you don't understand the average user by advocating that communicating with users in any way via xmessage in the year 2007 is acceptable at all. The first question as a response to that bug would be "attach your ~/.xsession-errors" - again, this issue goes away entirely if the front ends just integrate with the desktop/platform crash handlers. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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18:12

New subject: [Bug 265263] xmessage issued by YaST on finishing every module

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c51 --- Comment #51 from Aaron Bockover 2007-08-29 12:12:59 MST --- Created an attachment (id=160793) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=160793) A theoretical cross desktop message display Just a thought... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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18:15

New subject: [Bug 265263] xmessage issued by YaST on finishing every module

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263 Aaron Bockover changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #160793|application/octet-stream |text/plain mime type| | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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20:31

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c52 Garrett LeSage changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |glesage@novell.com --- Comment #52 from Garrett LeSage 2007-08-29 14:31:40 MST --- I've noticed xmessage showing up every time I do something in YaST too. Someone using the software does not care why a program crashes, and they care even less about an error when they dismiss that program and an error message shows up. I hope that we do not seriously consider shipping the distro with such a broken, unprofessional dialog (regardless of using xmessage, zenity, or kdialog), especially when it is displayed after every instance of using YaST. Aaron's points are great ones, and he suggests good solutions. We should not communicate to the user in cryptic forms about things they do not care about, ever. If it's really important, the computer should take care of it, or just silently log it away, where the user could retrieve the information if asked to do so. To put it in perspective: Would you like your car to pop up an xmessage on your windshield every time you changed the station on your radio and it didn't find a station? (That is, in between radio scans.) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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07:37

New subject: [Bug 265263] xmessage issued by YaST on finishing every module

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c53 Andreas Jaeger changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |aj@novell.com, kkaempf@novell.com Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |kkaempf@novell.com --- Comment #53 from Andreas Jaeger 2007-08-30 01:37:35 MST --- I think this xmessage is a really good debugging aid and therefore helps us to find bugs during alpha/beta phase. But can we disable it directly after RC3? What about a sysconfig variable? Klaus, what do you suggest? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 265263] xmessage issued by YaST on finishing every module

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c54 --- Comment #54 from Steffen Winterfeldt 2007-08-30 03:21:08 MST --- Well, it wouldn't be that much of a problem if that xmessage code would do what it allegedly is supposed to do: show error messages. But the annoying thing is, it pops up all the time. So, until the code is fixed to work properly all the fancyfull concocted stories about how those popups help to save the earth and whatnot are mood. Please, can somebody actually FIX it (or rip it out for good) and lets do the philosophical stuff later? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 265263] xmessage issued by YaST on finishing every module

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c55 Klaus Kämpf changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |RESOLVED Info Provider|kkaempf@novell.com | Resolution| |DUPLICATE --- Comment #55 from Klaus Kämpf 2007-08-30 03:31:40 MST --- Adding xmessage had its reasons, see bug 211392. So I'll close this as a dup to #211392 and reopen bug 211392. comment #53: If this cant be fixed 'right' (seems to mean something else for everyone ;-)), making it configurable is probably best. *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 211392 *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=211392 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 265263] xmessage issued by YaST on finishing every module

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c56 --- Comment #56 from Stefan Hundhammer 2007-08-30 05:53:35 MST --- (In reply to comment #51 from Aaron Bockover)

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Created an attachment (id=160793) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=160793) [details] A theoretical cross desktop message display

Just a thought...

Unfortunately, things are never as easy as this. This simplistic snippet misses the error handling that is crucial for code like this. For example, while normal KDE installations do indeed include "kdialog", we need to have a fallback in case it's not available after all. And the same for GNOME. And so on. I've been in this business long enough to see quick hacks like this fail at the worst possible of moments, usually out there at a customer's machine. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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16:17

New subject: [Bug 265263] xmessage issued by YaST on finishing every module

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c57 Aaron Bockover changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|DUPLICATE | --- Comment #57 from Aaron Bockover 2007-08-30 10:17:47 MST --- This bug is not a duplicate of bug 211392. The only thing bug 211392 has to do with this bug is that it's a source of one [of the many] xmessages shown by YaST. This bug happens to be about showing the xmessages at all - regardless of the source of the message. (In reply to comment #53 from Andreas Jaeger)

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I think this xmessage is a really good debugging aid and therefore helps us to find bugs during alpha/beta phase. But can we disable it directly after RC3? What about a sysconfig variable?

I tend to agree, these xmessages can be good for beta testing, but they absolutely should be turned off before the GM release. That's the bottom line. After the RCs are over, this becomes an issue of usability and design and at that point, engineers shouldn't have the final word. (In reply to comment #56 from Stefan Hundhammer)

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Unfortunately, things are never as easy as this. This simplistic snippet misses the error handling that is crucial for code like this...

Stefan, I'm not sure if you noticed, but for one, I called that snippet "theoretical" and it was written in 2 minutes to give you a basic idea. And second, if zenity or kdialog can't be run, then it falls back to ... xmessage! That's what the || means in bash. I wasn't saying the code was 100% accurate, but I can tell you a real solution is not as complicated as you would like to think it is. Anyway, displaying of these overly technical and pointless messages (to users) is something that should be completely turned off when the RCs are over. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=211392 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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14:41

New subject: [Bug 265263] xmessage issued by YaST on finishing every module

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c58 --- Comment #58 from Martin Vidner 2007-08-31 08:41:17 MST --- Sorry for the delay, I will address it in some way for next week's Beta 3. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c59 Martin Vidner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |ASSIGNED --- Comment #59 from Martin Vidner 2007-09-02 14:00:11 MST --- Aaron has good points about the case when YaST crashes, but originally this report is about the annoying behavior of displaying harmless GTK warnings. (In reply to comment #45 from Stefan Hundhammer)

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I don't know if this is feasible, but maybe we can somehow change this so the xmessage window only appears if there is a serious error condition, like - y2base segfaults or terminates via other signal - y2base returns with non-zero exit status

Yes, that is my fix (patch follows), and the existing code even makes it easy. I wonder why I didn't think of it sooner. (In reply to comment #49 from Stefan Hundhammer)

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(In reply to comment #48 from Aaron Bockover)

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For one, I would _never_ want to see xmessage in any shape or form. If YaST segfaults, well, we have bug buddy on GNOME, etc. Maybe the GTK front end should integrate with that.

Ah, good idea, let's try adding that.

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If you absolutely have to show the user a cryptic error message, at least do so in a native UI - use zenity if on GNOME or XFCE, kdialog on KDE, and xmessage as a complete last resort fallback.

That would be beautifying the display of error messages and, a lot worse, maintaining a zillion error message beautifiers in all shapes of sizes. Does that really make any sense to you?

I vote strictly against this. This would just be code bloat and a maintenance nightmare.

While we could use zenity/kdialog and xmessage as fallback, I also think that the benefits would not justify the effort. Feel free to submit a patch handling all the corner cases.

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[...] the cryptic messages [...] should be logged in ~/.xession-errors anyway

I fear you overestimate even advanced users. I have yet to receive the first bug report where a user looked in ~/.xsession-errors. All we ever get in such cases is "it doesn't start".

Right. And even myself or other bug sorters don't know this. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c60 --- Comment #60 from Martin Vidner 2007-09-02 14:25:51 MST --- Created an attachment (id=161389) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=161389) yast2-xmsg.diff -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c61 Martin Vidner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #61 from Martin Vidner 2007-09-03 01:17:01 MST --- Submitted in yast2-2.15.52. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c62 Martin Vidner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |martin.lasarsch@novell.com --- Comment #62 from Martin Vidner 2007-09-04 00:13:26 MST --- *** Bug 303843 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=303843 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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16:41

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c63 Stephan Binner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |jjaeger@novell.com --- Comment #63 from Stephan Binner 2007-09-11 10:41:01 MST --- *** Bug 309134 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=309134 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 265263] xmessage issued by YaST on finishing every module

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=265263#c64 Mark Gordon changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |alphacluster@gmail.com --- Comment #64 from Mark Gordon 2007-10-02 13:45:58 MST --- *** Bug 329646 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329646 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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[Bug 265263] New: Corrupted message box issued by YaST on finishing Software Update

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