[Bug 222675] New: "Nimbus Sans L" doesn't render well with hintstyle=hintfull
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222675 Summary: "Nimbus Sans L" doesn't render well with hintstyle=hintfull Product: openSUSE 10.2 Version: Beta 2 plus Platform: Other OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Basesystem AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: mfabian@novell.com QAContact: qa@suse.de "Nimbus Sans L" doesn't render well with hintstyle=hintfull -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222675 mfabian@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team- |mfabian@novell.com |screening@forge.provo.novell| |.com | Status|NEW |ASSIGNED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222675 ------- Comment #1 from mfabian@novell.com 2006-11-22 04:38 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=106553) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=106553&action=view) nimbus-sans-l-rendering-comparison.png Comparison of the rendering of "Nimbus Sans L" with different rendering options. Top row: 12 pixel. Bottom row: 14 pixel. Both rows from left to right: autohinter=true autohinter=true autohinter=false autohinter=false hintstyle=hintmedium hintstyle=hintfull hintstyle=hintmedium hintstyle=hintfull -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222675 ------- Comment #2 from matz@novell.com 2006-11-22 05:09 MST ------- IMHO: The autohint=true/hintfull one is the worst of all four. All other three I find acceptable. I like the ones with autohint=false a bit better, as they seem to have less anti-alias bleeding on vertical bars. But that might also lead to uneven spacing when the characters are used in words and not drawn separately. It's interesting that there's a difference between hintfull and hintmedium even though the autohinter is off (for instance see the big 'Q', which is a bit rounder with hintfull). But one also needs to compare the font when used to draw some string, perhaps then it's more obvious which one to choose. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222675 ------- Comment #3 from mfabian@novell.com 2006-11-22 05:27 MST ------- Michael Matz> It's interesting that there's a difference between Michael Matz> hintfull and hintmedium even though the autohinter is Michael Matz> off (for instance see the big 'Q', which is a bit Michael Matz> rounder with hintfull). I cannot see any difference between the big 'Q' between hintfull and hintmedium when the autohinter is off. When enlarnged with "xmag" it seems to be exactly the same. For TrueType fonts I can usually find differences between hintfull and hintmedium when the autohinter is off. But not for PostScript fonts. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222675 ------- Comment #4 from mfabian@novell.com 2006-11-22 05:30 MST ------- Michael Matz> I like the ones with autohint=false a bit better, as Michael Matz> they seem to have less anti-alias bleeding on vertical Michael Matz> bars. I agree. The dots on the 'ö' cannot be clearly distinguished anymore at small sizes with authohint=false. But that can happen with autohint=true as well. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222675 ------- Comment #5 from matz@novell.com 2006-11-22 06:46 MST ------- Hmm indeed, I must have been confused with my multiple xmag windows :-) So yes, with autohinter off the two look the same, as expected. With your new fonts-config-20061025 which switches off the autohinter for even more fonts it looks okay again. So either we should switch off the autohinter, or at least go to hintmedium for postscript fonts. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222675 ------- Comment #6 from mfabian@novell.com 2006-11-22 07:33 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=106581) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=106581&action=view) nimbus-sans-l-autohint-false-hintstyle-hintfull.png "Nimbus Sans L" with autohint=true hintstyle=hintfull in gedit. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222675 ------- Comment #7 from mfabian@novell.com 2006-11-22 07:35 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=106582) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=106582&action=view) nimbus-sans-l-autohint-true-hintstyle-hintfull.png "Nimbus Sans L" with autohint=true hintstyle=hintfull in gedit. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222675 ------- Comment #8 from mfabian@novell.com 2006-11-22 07:37 MST ------- The screenshots in comment #6 (autohint=false) and comment #7 (autohint=true) show how much the autohinter changes the metrics which is especially obvious with digits. See also bug #215602. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222675 ------- Comment #9 from mfabian@novell.com 2006-11-22 07:43 MST ------- This metric distortion might be a bug in the autohinter. But until this is solved we don't really have a choice but to switch it off for PostScript fonts as well. And even if the problem with the metrics were not there, it still would look better without the autohinter. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222675 ------- Comment #10 from mfabian@novell.com 2006-11-22 07:52 MST ------- fonts-config package which switches off the autohinter for fontformat="Type 1" and fontformat="CSS" submitted to STABLE: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Wed Nov 22 13:19:44 CET 2006 - mfabian@suse.de - Bugzilla #222675: disable autohinter for PostScript fonts. ------------------------------------------------------------------- → Closing as FIXED. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222675 mfabian@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED ------- Comment #11 from mfabian@novell.com 2006-11-22 07:52 MST ------- FIXED. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
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