[Bug 215232] New: Usability thoughts on the KDE menu
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215232 Summary: Usability thoughts on the KDE menu Product: openSUSE 10.2 Version: Beta 1 Platform: Other OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Usability AssignedTo: siegfried.olschner@novell.com ReportedBy: hhetter@novell.com QAContact: siegfried.olschner@novell.com extremly fast reaction. For example, if you open the KDE menu, the mouse pointer is at the geecko. Now if you want to reach one of your favourites listed in the menu, you must move the mouse pointer straight up to avoid that the KDE menu changes it's focus to "Workplace" or "Last Used". Impression: Menu handling is a bit "in a hurry". I think this will get better once people get used to it, and I understand that this kind of behaviour is even wanted on later usage, but for a beginner, it's hard. Suggestion: create delays on the tab-buttons of the KDE menu, which either switch when the delay has been reached or a mouseclick has been done. Or, make the current behaviour and the suggestion configurable. ---- Misleading Search Text field. Doing a beagle search in the textfield presented in the KDE menu, many people *want* to hit Enter at this point. In the current state, the menu just closes completely. Suggestion: Catch Enter/Return key. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215232 ------- Comment #1 from coolo@novell.com 2006-10-27 07:29 MST ------- The enter will start the action selected and we already made click vs. hover configurable. Everything beyond that I'd rather WONTFIX -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215232 alberto.passalacqua@tin.it changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |alberto.passalacqua@tin.it ------- Comment #2 from alberto.passalacqua@tin.it 2006-10-28 18:04 MST ------- I'd suggest to disable the opening of the menu on hover by default. I don't think the user expects the menu to pop-up and immediately close again. Probably the usual click to open the menu would be better. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215232 siegfried.olschner@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|siegfried.olschner@novell.co|evamaria.fuchs@novell.com |m | ------- Comment #3 from siegfried.olschner@novell.com 2006-12-11 07:15 MST ------- Reorganization of usability-bug assignments. We try to discharge the number of our bug entries in the next weeks. => Reassigned to efuchs -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215232 evamaria.fuchs@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |coolo@novell.com ------- Comment #4 from evamaria.fuchs@novell.com 2006-12-19 08:22 MST ------- I tried to reproduce the hover behavior you described with my 10.2. But I could only open KDE menu via hovering on the down left corner of the geeko. On the other parts of the geeko I had to click to open the KDE menu. Coolo, Dirk, could you explain the reason why this works like this? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215232 ------- Comment #5 from hhetter@novell.com 2006-12-19 09:26 MST ------- "Found in Version : Beta1", since I don't install KDE usually, I haven't tested this anymore. I guess there have been changes in the hovering as comment #1 from coolo suggests. I don't have time for a KDE installation to recheck; Feel free to close and resolve this one if it isn't useful for you anymore. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215232 evamaria.fuchs@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |RESOLVED Info Provider|coolo@novell.com | Resolution| |INVALID ------- Comment #6 from evamaria.fuchs@novell.com 2006-12-20 08:35 MST ------- ok, I'll close this bug -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215232 hhetter@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215232 suse-beta@cboltz.de changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|CLOSED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID | ------- Comment #7 from suse-beta@cboltz.de 2006-12-25 07:33 MST ------- Please don't close a bug just because it isn't relevant for the reporter only ;-) - there are lots of KDE users who are interested in good usability. (If needed, I can provide information from user's point of view.) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215232 suse-beta@cboltz.de changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |coolo@novell.com ------- Comment #8 from suse-beta@cboltz.de 2006-12-25 07:37 MST ------- Coolo, an answer to comment #4 would still be appreciated ;-) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215232 ------- Comment #9 from evamaria.fuchs@novell.com 2007-01-05 06:47 MST ------- As far as I understand the problem isn't existing any longer. Please Christian, anytime you have user information no matter what issue it concerns,give it to us usability people! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215232 ------- Comment #10 from hhetter@novell.com 2007-01-05 15:13 MST ------- I don't know if the problem still exists. To be true, I don't install KDE for usual work. I just try it if OpenSUSE is in Beta phase to see what's going on there. In case of Beta1, comment #1 describes what was my experience. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215232 coolo@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |REOPENED Info Provider|coolo@novell.com | ------- Comment #11 from coolo@novell.com 2007-01-08 02:57 MST ------- the hover activation was too much for the full area as it appeared every time you tried to hit something in the lower area of an fullscreen app - say word processor. So we made it hover active only if you hit the corner explicitly - which works very nice. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215232 evamaria.fuchs@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX ------- Comment #12 from evamaria.fuchs@novell.com 2007-01-25 06:45 MST ------- I agree to comment #11, we implemented this behavior because for most users it disturbs least. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
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