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Michael Loeffler

20 Aug 2010 20 Aug '10

13:18

Moin, we'll produce soon another round of openSUSE t-shirts. My question is should we do the same black openSUSE shirts (openSUSE logo on front , back black with a small "Sponsored by Novell" in the neck area) or do different ones ? Best Michael -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

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Henne Vogelsang

20 Aug 20 Aug

13:41

Hey, On 20.08.2010 15:18, Michael Loeffler wrote:

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we'll produce soon another round of openSUSE t-shirts. My question is should we do the same black openSUSE shirts (openSUSE logo on front , back black with a small "Sponsored by Novell" in the neck area)

Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooring ;)

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or do different ones ?

I actually would like to have wearable t-shirts that don't look like cheapo giveaways from the 80s. We are way more creative than that. How about we start a challenge on threadless? http://www.threadless.com/loves I don't know how much that would cost us but judging from what i heard its up for discussion with the threadless guys. Let's contact them and work something out. It also would had the benefit of exposing our artwork team to more designers. Who knows maybe some of them would stick around after a the contest? Jos would that be something you would sponsor? Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Jos Poortvliet

13 Sep 13 Sep

11:13

On Friday 20 August 2010 15:41:59 Henne Vogelsang wrote:

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Hey,

On 20.08.2010 15:18, Michael Loeffler wrote:

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we'll produce soon another round of openSUSE t-shirts. My question is should we do the same black openSUSE shirts (openSUSE logo on front , back black with a small "Sponsored by Novell" in the neck area)

Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooring ;)

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or do different ones ?

I actually would like to have wearable t-shirts that don't look like cheapo giveaways from the 80s. We are way more creative than that. How about we start a challenge on threadless?

http://www.threadless.com/loves

I don't know how much that would cost us but judging from what i heard its up for discussion with the threadless guys. Let's contact them and work something out. It also would had the benefit of exposing our artwork team to more designers. Who knows maybe some of them would stick around after a the contest? Jos would that be something you would sponsor?

Sounds like a pretty interesting idea. I dunno if I would sponsor it, that depends on what most of you think ;-) IOW if the ppl on artwork, the boosters and the marketing ppl in general seem to think it is worth spending money on, I'll follow that. Not that I want to start a huge discussion, of course, a few yays of nays are OK :D In general I do agree with the idea that we need t-shirts our significant others would wear - eg not just geek t-shirts or those very topical ones with just a name or something. grtz and appologies for the late reply - something got seriously messed up here... :( Jos

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Henne

Michael Loeffler

11:43

Moin, On Monday 13 September 2010 13:13:50 Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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On Friday 20 August 2010 15:41:59 Henne Vogelsang wrote:

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Hey,

On 20.08.2010 15:18, Michael Loeffler wrote:

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we'll produce soon another round of openSUSE t-shirts. My question is should we do the same black openSUSE shirts (openSUSE logo on front , back black with a small "Sponsored by Novell" in the neck area)

Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooring ;)

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or do different ones ?

I actually would like to have wearable t-shirts that don't look like cheapo giveaways from the 80s. We are way more creative than that. How about we start a challenge on threadless?

http://www.threadless.com/loves

I don't know how much that would cost us but judging from what i heard its up for discussion with the threadless guys. Let's contact them and work something out. It also would had the benefit of exposing our artwork team to more designers. Who knows maybe some of them would stick around after a the contest? Jos would that be something you would sponsor?

Sounds like a pretty interesting idea. I dunno if I would sponsor it, that depends on what most of you think ;-)

IOW if the ppl on artwork, the boosters and the marketing ppl in general seem to think it is worth spending money on, I'll follow that. Not that I want to start a huge discussion, of course, a few yays of nays are OK :D

In general I do agree with the idea that we need t-shirts our significant others would wear - eg not just geek t-shirts or those very topical ones with just a name or something.

grtz and appologies for the late reply - something got seriously messed up here... :( Jos but I make it worse ;-) The general request for design was and is for a general/generic openSUSE t- shirt not for the conference t-shirts. As we're out of stock of t-shirts the idea is to get new t-shirts on stock to be used for several occasions (own events, LUGs, ambassadors, goodies etc.)

Best M

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Henne

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Ricardo Varas Santana

14 Sep 14 Sep

03:04

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:43 AM, Michael Loeffler wrote:

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The general request for design was and is for a general/generic openSUSE t- shirt not for the conference t-shirts. As we're out of stock of t-shirts the idea is to get new t-shirts on stock to be used for several occasions (own events, LUGs, ambassadors, goodies etc.)

Best M

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So we better start a new thread :) Although I do like some of the ideas presented here, still I find the classical design to be cool (and yet simple if you'd like) and propose a new design based on that AND adding elements related to the technologies (OBS, Suse studio, 1 click install etc) and Community Principles for openSUSE . What I certainly would not like to see is the project's t-shirt based on another distro's design, cause to me openSUSE is way ahead ;). Bests -- Ricardo Varas Santana openSUSE Member, Ambassador, and Translator. http://ricardovs.wordpress.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Helen

03:21

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certainly would not like to see is the project's t-shirt based on another distro's design, cause to me openSUSE is way ahead ;).

Bests -- Ricardo Varas Santana

For sure! If you're referring to my mention of the Ubuntu shirt, I meant in terms of it being a little unconventional and quite artsy in design. Expressive. This can take many forms! Will mentioned Threadless too - the point being just to take a look at some unconventional approaches. The designs put forward so far are very good, simple and tasteful - I like the skyline and the house outline both. I'd certainly wear any of these. A plastic-looking bright green lizard silhouette stencil on the front of a tshirt? Not so much. :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

S.Kemter

03:35

Am Dienstag 14 September 2010, 05:21:22 schrieb Helen:

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certainly would not like to see is the project's t-shirt based on another distro's design, cause to me openSUSE is way ahead ;).

Bests -- Ricardo Varas Santana

For sure! If you're referring to my mention of the Ubuntu shirt, I meant in terms of it being a little unconventional and quite artsy in design. Expressive. This can take many forms! Will mentioned Threadless too - the point being just to take a look at some unconventional approaches.

The designs put forward so far are very good, simple and tasteful - I like the skyline and the house outline both. I'd certainly wear any of these.

A plastic-looking bright green lizard silhouette stencil on the front of a tshirt? Not so much. :)

sorry Helen u begin to mix the give away shirts they michl requested and the conference shirt again br gnokii -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Helen

03:29

Apologies... (also for the reply-all...!_) I think I need to switch email clients. They are showing up on one thread.

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sorry Helen u begin to mix the give away shirts they michl requested and the conference shirt again

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Ricardo Varas Santana

03:39

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Helen wrote:

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For sure! If you're referring to my mention of the Ubuntu shirt, I meant in terms of it being a little unconventional and quite artsy in design. Expressive. This can take many forms! Will mentioned Threadless too - the point being just to take a look at some unconventional approaches.

Kind of recalling the Ubuntu shirt, but it could be the Gnome ones I also mentioned :). I mean, while they are all artsy and serve well for their purpose, we as openSUSE Community should and must take our own path, creating our own and awesome t-shirt design. Using another distro or project designs would be like we're following and not leading. I like the most simple stuff out of Threadless though.

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The designs put forward so far are very good, simple and tasteful - I like the skyline and the house outline both. I'd certainly wear any of these.

For the OSC, or "general purpose" t-shirt?

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A plastic-looking bright green lizard silhouette stencil on the front of a tshirt? Not so much. :)

European plastic-looking version rocks! :D Bests -- Ricardo Varas Santana openSUSE Member, Ambassador, and Translator. http://ricardovs.wordpress.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Helen

04:08

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Ricardo Varas Santana wrote -

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we as openSUSE Community should and must take our own path, creating our own and awesome t-shirt design.

Absolutely!

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Using another distro or project designs would be like we're following and not leading.

Yes, as I said - it's to be inspired by the variety of approach, not to copy.

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I like the most simple stuff out of Threadless though.

I agree - some of the stuff is very clumsy and busy. I think simple, even elegant, and uncluttered are useful ideas and fit well with openSUSE. It's possible to be expressive and artistic within that - it doesn't have to be stiff and boring. When combining inspiration or concepts, I feel it's important that they gel successfully and you don't have unrelated images just pushed together, or too many design elements competing for attention.

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For the OSC, or "general purpose" t-shirt?

I guess the OSC designs wouldn't translate well to a general-purpose shirt as the skyline is rather place-specific. (on the other hand, I have an Edelrid shirt that has "Made in Germany" stamped across it, which I rather like...) But perhaps the design elements could work, adapted - the heavier logo to one side, a lightweight linear design across with alternative logo/text to anchor the other side. Is there any reason that a print-to-order shop like Cafe Press or Zazzle is unsuitable? I've never used these, but it seems to be a good way to offer a choice of designs. (I guess this has probably been discussed in the past... apologies for my extreme noobiness today!) best, Helen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Michael Loeffler

13:18

Moin, On Tuesday 14 September 2010 06:08:21 Helen wrote:

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Ricardo Varas Santana wrote -

we as openSUSE Community should and must take our own path, creating our own and awesome t-shirt design.

Absolutely!

...
...
Using another

distro or project designs would be like we're following and not leading.

Yes, as I said - it's to be inspired by the variety of approach, not to copy.

...
...
I like the most simple stuff out of Threadless though.

I agree - some of the stuff is very clumsy and busy. I think simple, even elegant, and uncluttered are useful ideas and fit well with openSUSE. It's possible to be expressive and artistic within that - it doesn't have to be stiff and boring.

When combining inspiration or concepts, I feel it's important that they gel successfully and you don't have unrelated images just pushed together, or too many design elements competing for attention.

...
...
For the OSC, or "general purpose" t-shirt?

I guess the OSC designs wouldn't translate well to a general-purpose shirt as the skyline is rather place-specific. (on the other hand, I have an Edelrid shirt that has "Made in Germany" stamped across it, which I rather like...) But perhaps the design elements could work, adapted - the heavier logo to one side, a lightweight linear design across with alternative logo/text to anchor the other side.

Is there any reason that a print-to-order shop like Cafe Press or Zazzle is unsuitable? I've never used these, but it seems to be a good way to offer a choice of designs. (I guess this has probably been discussed in the past... apologies for my extreme noobiness today!) We have that - http://shop.opensuse.org/ But we don't treat it well. That means we created the stuff 1 or 2 years ago and never touched it again :-(

Best M

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best,

Helen

S.Kemter

14:29

Am Dienstag 14 September 2010, 15:18:15 schrieb Michael Loeffler:

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Moin,

On Tuesday 14 September 2010 06:08:21 Helen wrote:

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Ricardo Varas Santana wrote -

we as openSUSE Community should and must take our own path, creating our own and awesome t-shirt design.

Absolutely!

...
...
Using another

distro or project designs would be like we're following and not leading.

Yes, as I said - it's to be inspired by the variety of approach, not to copy.

...
...
I like the most simple stuff out of Threadless though.

I agree - some of the stuff is very clumsy and busy. I think simple, even elegant, and uncluttered are useful ideas and fit well with openSUSE. It's possible to be expressive and artistic within that - it doesn't have to be stiff and boring.

When combining inspiration or concepts, I feel it's important that they gel successfully and you don't have unrelated images just pushed together, or too many design elements competing for attention.

...
...
For the OSC, or "general purpose" t-shirt?

I guess the OSC designs wouldn't translate well to a general-purpose shirt as the skyline is rather place-specific. (on the other hand, I have an Edelrid shirt that has "Made in Germany" stamped across it, which I rather like...) But perhaps the design elements could work, adapted - the heavier logo to one side, a lightweight linear design across with alternative logo/text to anchor the other side.

Is there any reason that a print-to-order shop like Cafe Press or Zazzle is unsuitable? I've never used these, but it seems to be a good way to offer a choice of designs. (I guess this has probably been discussed in the past... apologies for my extreme noobiness today!)

We have that - http://shop.opensuse.org/ But we don't treat it well. That means we created the stuff 1 or 2 years ago and never touched it again :-(

michl had some time ago a conversation with henne about that shop and push some of my motives like "Super-SUSE" or the japanese geeko or the graffiti motifes to it. I have a little conflict doing this, on the one side I know the money from the shop is directly reused for buying marketing stuff. But otherwise I saw ugly things like this black stuff I didnt realize for what it is and noone liked it on events, u know what I mean. So michl, when I work as a non paid designer and give away may graphics for nothing, can I see for what the money u earned with it is used? br gnokii

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Best M

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best,

Helen

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Michael Loeffler

14:57

Moin, On Tuesday 14 September 2010 16:29:15 S.Kemter wrote:

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Am Dienstag 14 September 2010, 15:18:15 schrieb Michael Loeffler:

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Moin,

On Tuesday 14 September 2010 06:08:21 Helen wrote:

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Ricardo Varas Santana wrote -

we as openSUSE Community should and must take our own path, creating our own and awesome t-shirt design.

Absolutely!

...
...
Using another

distro or project designs would be like we're following and not leading.

Yes, as I said - it's to be inspired by the variety of approach, not to copy.

...
...
I like the most simple stuff out of Threadless though.

I agree - some of the stuff is very clumsy and busy. I think simple, even elegant, and uncluttered are useful ideas and fit well with openSUSE. It's possible to be expressive and artistic within that - it doesn't have to be stiff and boring.

When combining inspiration or concepts, I feel it's important that they gel successfully and you don't have unrelated images just pushed together, or too many design elements competing for attention.

...
...
For the OSC, or "general purpose" t-shirt?

I guess the OSC designs wouldn't translate well to a general-purpose shirt as the skyline is rather place-specific. (on the other hand, I have an Edelrid shirt that has "Made in Germany" stamped across it, which I rather like...) But perhaps the design elements could work, adapted - the heavier logo to one side, a lightweight linear design across with alternative logo/text to anchor the other side.

Is there any reason that a print-to-order shop like Cafe Press or Zazzle is unsuitable? I've never used these, but it seems to be a good way to offer a choice of designs. (I guess this has probably been discussed in the past... apologies for my extreme noobiness today!)

We have that - http://shop.opensuse.org/ But we don't treat it well. That means we created the stuff 1 or 2 years ago and never touched it again :-(

michl had some time ago a conversation with henne about that shop and push some of my motives like "Super-SUSE" or the japanese geeko or the graffiti motifes to it.

I have a little conflict doing this, on the one side I know the money from the shop is directly reused for buying marketing stuff. But otherwise I saw ugly things like this black stuff I didnt realize for what it is and noone liked it on events, u know what I mean.

So michl, when I work as a non paid designer and give away may graphics for nothing, can I see for what the money u earned with it is used? Just checked the latest accounting stuff we received from spreadshirt. We're talking about roughly € 100 per quarter income. Currently this income goes to Novell as openSUSE itself isn't able yet to receive money. And now we're again on the foundation which could solve this.

Best M

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br gnokii

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Best M

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best,

Helen

S.Kemter

15:31

Am Dienstag 14 September 2010, 16:57:53 schrieb Michael Loeffler:

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Moin,

On Tuesday 14 September 2010 16:29:15 S.Kemter wrote:

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Am Dienstag 14 September 2010, 15:18:15 schrieb Michael Loeffler:

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Moin,

On Tuesday 14 September 2010 06:08:21 Helen wrote:

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Ricardo Varas Santana wrote -

we as openSUSE Community should and must take our own path, creating our own and awesome t-shirt design.

Absolutely!

...
...
Using another

distro or project designs would be like we're following and not leading.

Yes, as I said - it's to be inspired by the variety of approach, not to copy.

...
...
I like the most simple stuff out of Threadless though.

I agree - some of the stuff is very clumsy and busy. I think simple, even elegant, and uncluttered are useful ideas and fit well with openSUSE. It's possible to be expressive and artistic within that - it doesn't have to be stiff and boring.

When combining inspiration or concepts, I feel it's important that they gel successfully and you don't have unrelated images just pushed together, or too many design elements competing for attention.

...
...
For the OSC, or "general purpose" t-shirt?

I guess the OSC designs wouldn't translate well to a general-purpose shirt as the skyline is rather place-specific. (on the other hand, I have an Edelrid shirt that has "Made in Germany" stamped across it, which I rather like...) But perhaps the design elements could work, adapted - the heavier logo to one side, a lightweight linear design across with alternative logo/text to anchor the other side.

Is there any reason that a print-to-order shop like Cafe Press or Zazzle is unsuitable? I've never used these, but it seems to be a good way to offer a choice of designs. (I guess this has probably been discussed in the past... apologies for my extreme noobiness today!)

We have that - http://shop.opensuse.org/ But we don't treat it well. That means we created the stuff 1 or 2 years ago and never touched it again :-(

michl had some time ago a conversation with henne about that shop and push some of my motives like "Super-SUSE" or the japanese geeko or the graffiti motifes to it.

I have a little conflict doing this, on the one side I know the money from the shop is directly reused for buying marketing stuff. But otherwise I saw ugly things like this black stuff I didnt realize for what it is and noone liked it on events, u know what I mean.

So michl, when I work as a non paid designer and give away may graphics for nothing, can I see for what the money u earned with it is used?

Just checked the latest accounting stuff we received from spreadshirt. We're talking about roughly € 100 per quarter income. Currently this income goes to Novell as openSUSE itself isn't able yet to receive money. And now we're again on the foundation which could solve this.

michl thats the income with the ugly shirts ;) As I know it goes back to the marketing pot for openSUSE. I also spoke with henne about doing it after the foundation, but I see there a lot of talking without an end ;) When u promise me that this money is used for openSUSE and not in such a way like this black iPod cable holder, then I do some nice motifes for the shop. But there are some problems more, for uploading own motifes u need a paid account, then u have the right to upload every month 20 of them is a lot. So I would prefer to make 20 motif. So maybe we sould collect some goot motifes before we doing it. But on the end, here working only 3 ppl Javier, Robert and me and we should do first conference shirts second shirts for give away third distribution design for 11.4 completly that means also the cover, sorry not bad the 11.3 but looks very different from the design which is used in the distribution self. We also had some complaints about missing splashes in 11.3 where this from 11.2 was used, that should not happend again first distro after that, the other stuff. hopefully here come more ppl they work not talk, more ;) Then we can do more things but right now I see only 3 working. br gnokii

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Best M

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br gnokii

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Best M

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best,

Helen

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Nelson Marques

16:12

On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 15:18 +0200, Michael Loeffler wrote:

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Moin, On Tuesday 14 September 2010 06:08:21 Helen wrote:

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Ricardo Varas Santana wrote -

we as openSUSE Community should and must take our own path, creating our own and awesome t-shirt design.

Absolutely!

...
...
Using another

distro or project designs would be like we're following and not leading.

Yes, as I said - it's to be inspired by the variety of approach, not to copy.

...
...
I like the most simple stuff out of Threadless though.

I agree - some of the stuff is very clumsy and busy. I think simple, even elegant, and uncluttered are useful ideas and fit well with openSUSE. It's possible to be expressive and artistic within that - it doesn't have to be stiff and boring.

When combining inspiration or concepts, I feel it's important that they gel successfully and you don't have unrelated images just pushed together, or too many design elements competing for attention.

...
...
For the OSC, or "general purpose" t-shirt?

I guess the OSC designs wouldn't translate well to a general-purpose shirt as the skyline is rather place-specific. (on the other hand, I have an Edelrid shirt that has "Made in Germany" stamped across it, which I rather like...) But perhaps the design elements could work, adapted - the heavier logo to one side, a lightweight linear design across with alternative logo/text to anchor the other side.

Is there any reason that a print-to-order shop like Cafe Press or Zazzle is unsuitable? I've never used these, but it seems to be a good way to offer a choice of designs. (I guess this has probably been discussed in the past... apologies for my extreme noobiness today!) We have that - http://shop.opensuse.org/ But we don't treat it well. That means we created the stuff 1 or 2 years ago and never touched it again :-(

Question (just plain curiosity), is it SEO optimized ? nelson

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Best M

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best,

Helen

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Robert Lihm

21 Sep 21 Sep

08:00

On 14.09.2010, at 18:12, Nelson Marques wrote:

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On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 15:18 +0200, Michael Loeffler wrote:

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Moin, On Tuesday 14 September 2010 06:08:21 Helen wrote:

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Ricardo Varas Santana wrote -

we as openSUSE Community should and must take our own path, creating our own and awesome t-shirt design.

Absolutely!

...
...
Using another

distro or project designs would be like we're following and not leading.

Yes, as I said - it's to be inspired by the variety of approach, not to copy.

...
...
I like the most simple stuff out of Threadless though.

I agree - some of the stuff is very clumsy and busy. I think simple, even elegant, and uncluttered are useful ideas and fit well with openSUSE. It's possible to be expressive and artistic within that - it doesn't have to be stiff and boring.

When combining inspiration or concepts, I feel it's important that they gel successfully and you don't have unrelated images just pushed together, or too many design elements competing for attention.

...
...
For the OSC, or "general purpose" t-shirt?

I guess the OSC designs wouldn't translate well to a general-purpose shirt as the skyline is rather place-specific. (on the other hand, I have an Edelrid shirt that has "Made in Germany" stamped across it, which I rather like...) But perhaps the design elements could work, adapted - the heavier logo to one side, a lightweight linear design across with alternative logo/text to anchor the other side.

Is there any reason that a print-to-order shop like Cafe Press or Zazzle is unsuitable? I've never used these, but it seems to be a good way to offer a choice of designs. (I guess this has probably been discussed in the past... apologies for my extreme noobiness today!) We have that - http://shop.opensuse.org/ But we don't treat it well. That means we created the stuff 1 or 2 years ago and never touched it again :-(

Question (just plain curiosity), is it SEO optimized ?

No, it isn't. It's just a quick hack. The shop gets included through an iframe. Maybe there are better way now, but I don't know it :-) Are you into SEO? Cheers, Robert

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nelson

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Best M

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best,

Helen

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Helen

08:20

I am, use it all the time. I did a random brainstorm of keywords like opensuse shop/gear/merchandise/tshirt/store was pretty good on Google - the suse shop coming in first on all, except for merchandise which it isn't ranking for, though less than ten searches per month for that keyword so its insignificant. Not many searches going on, 70 to 90 ish per month for shop/store - really dismal. I usually don't bother with anything getting less than a thousand. You don't wanna know how many are searching for Ubuntu store. Poor, misguided souls. Frankly most of the stuff in the shop is deadly dull. Sorry :) Helen On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Robert Lihm wrote:

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Question (just plain curiosity), is it SEO optimized ?

No, it isn't. It's just a quick hack. The shop gets included through an iframe. Maybe there are better way now, but I don't know it :-)

Are you into SEO?

Cheers,

Robert

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nelson

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Best M

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best,

Helen

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S.Kemter

14 Sep 14 Sep

03:30

Am Dienstag 14 September 2010, 05:04:42 schrieb Ricardo Varas Santana:

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On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:43 AM, Michael Loeffler wrote:

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The general request for design was and is for a general/generic openSUSE t- shirt not for the conference t-shirts. As we're out of stock of t-shirts the idea is to get new t-shirts on stock to be used for several occasions (own events, LUGs, ambassadors, goodies etc.)

Best M

So we better start a new thread :)

I did that long time ago

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Although I do like some of the ideas presented here, still I find the classical design to be cool (and yet simple if you'd like) and propose a new design based on that AND adding elements related to the technologies (OBS, Suse studio, 1 click install etc) and Community Principles for openSUSE . What I certainly would not like to see is the project's t-shirt based on another distro's design, cause to me openSUSE is way ahead ;).

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Ricardo Varas Santana

20 Aug 20 Aug

17:35

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Michael Loeffler wrote:

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Moin,

we'll produce soon another round of openSUSE t-shirts. My question is should we do the same black openSUSE shirts (openSUSE logo on front , back black with a small "Sponsored by Novell" in the neck area) or do different ones ?

I do not find them that boreing :), they are classical to me. I do love them in black, because the green looks great with black background. Sponsored by novell in the neck area could use a larger font maybe. I will design something later on as I am not home right now. Hope to see a lot of proposals over this topic! A couple questions Michael: does it matter how many colours do we use? size of objects used as well? Here in Chile, when you want to create your custom t-shirt, it matters the number of colors and shape (objects) you feel like using. Bests! -- Ricardo Varas Santana openSUSE Member, Ambassador, and Translator. http://ricardovs.wordpress.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Marcel Müller

21:06

Hey, it would be great if a V-neck or polo shirt be aviable. (I hope I used the right terms ;-) ) -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Marcel Müller -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Ricardo Varas Santana

21 Aug 21 Aug

03:09

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Marcel Müller wrote:

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Hey,

it would be great if a V-neck or polo shirt be aviable. (I hope I used the right terms ;-) )

There used to be one polo shirt model for the Ambassadors Program. I am not sure the up-to-date of that. :( OK, I wanted to draw some lines for a design proposal, but I ended up finding out that I would not change the front, I mean, why trading the great and simple geeko for something else? I just would like it to appear in larger size, maybe twice it's size today. On the back I'd use the rounded Geeko's head with some line like "I do contribute, do you?", "Linux is Us", or "There is green inside us all", all in white FifthLeg-Font. Below that would go "Sponsored by Novell" in red. Hope that is useful somehow. Best regards -- Ricardo Varas Santana openSUSE Member, Ambassador, and Translator. http://ricardovs.wordpress.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

S.Kemter

23 Aug 23 Aug

09:37

Am Freitag, den 20.08.2010, 15:18 +0200 schrieb Michael Loeffler:

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Moin,

we'll produce soon another round of openSUSE t-shirts. My question is should we do the same black openSUSE shirts (openSUSE logo on front , back black with a small "Sponsored by Novell" in the neck area) or do different ones ?

I agree with henne, we can do more as this "80ies" design. The series 2 years ago wasnt bad, people always asking on events to have one. We can do a new design when is wished br gnokii

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Best Michael

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Ricardo Varas Santana

12:57

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 5:37 AM, S.Kemter wrote:

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I agree with henne, we can do more as this "80ies" design. The series 2 years ago wasnt bad, people always asking on events to have one.

We can do a new design when is wished

br gnokii

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Hi Gnokii, what do you exactly mean by "80ies" design? I remember that 11.1 series were very cool, there I took the idea from adding a great marketing oriented line on the back, and keeping the green geeko on front (with 2x size) Best regards -- Ricardo Varas Santana openSUSE Member, Ambassador, and Translator. http://ricardovs.wordpress.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Henne Vogelsang

14:12

Hey, On 08/23/2010 02:57 PM, Ricardo Varas Santana wrote:

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On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 5:37 AM, S.Kemter wrote:

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I agree with henne, we can do more as this "80ies" design. The series 2 years ago wasnt bad, people always asking on events to have one.

what do you exactly mean by "80ies" design?

T-shirts just don't look like this anymore. Nowadays logos aren't the main feature of shirts, the shirt is. The shirt itself says something and the logo is just something to "attach" the shirt (and its message) to your brand. Shirts today also tend to use the space available on them more cleverly, not just the part above the chest and especially not centered. Basically today the shirt is cool and wearable and therefor your brand and not your brand is cool and therefor the shirt. People don't want to be blunt billboards anymore. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Javier Llorente

25 Aug 25 Aug

00:21

Moin, On Viernes, 20 de Agosto de 2010 15:18:19 Michael Loeffler escribió:

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Moin,

we'll produce soon another round of openSUSE t-shirts. My question is should we do the same black openSUSE shirts (openSUSE logo on front , back black with a small "Sponsored by Novell" in the neck area) or do different ones ?

Best Michael

I propose the following: 1) Use the Conference 2009's t-shirt design except for the back logo. 2) Re-design the Conference 2010 t-shirt. My idea is to include some city/region's symbols in the t-shirt so it's less boring ;-) Some drafts (the last one needs more work): http://www.javierllorente.com/tmp/tshirt.png http://www.javierllorente.com/tmp/tshirt2.png http://www.javierllorente.com/tmp/tshirt3.png http://www.javierllorente.com/tmp/tshirt4.png Based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nuremberg_from_Burg_17.04.2010.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Heilig-Geist- Spital_Nuernberg_March_2007_002.jpg Greetings, -- Javier Llorente

Ricardo Varas Santana

03:13

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Javier Llorente wrote: Hello everybody, Here are my first two attempts for t-shirts: Front: https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B5G-iamnQymTMzgxNjgxZmUtMDg0ZS00OGU2LWJlZjQtNGM1ZTExZmE5ZDE0&hl=en&authkey=CKWf3KcK Back: https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B5G-iamnQymTNDFlMDNmMjEtODZhYi00ZTBkLTlmYjQtZWZjNGMyZGFmY2I2&hl=en&authkey=CLfKg6YP Far from perfect, but a good start :D Best regards. pd: let me know if links don't work. -- Ricardo Varas Santana openSUSE Member, Ambassador, and Translator. http://ricardovs.wordpress.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

S.Kemter

10:12

Hello, so I did some proposals for a shirt motive too. But on them is a little bit work to do, add some more drops on 1 and 2 and such stuff. 3 is nearly ready. http://karl-tux-stadt.de/tmp/shirts.png br gnokii -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Dominique Leuenberger

10:12

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On 08/25/2010 at 12:12 PM, "S.Kemter" wrote: Hello,

so I did some proposals for a shirt motive too. But on them is a little bit work to do, add some more drops on 1 and 2 and such stuff. 3 is nearly ready.

http://karl-tux-stadt.de/tmp/shirts.png

Even though those shirts look 'modern', I don't like the font.. it takes way too much concentration to read it and there is no association at all to what openSUSE is / does / represents... not a single 'known' element on the shirt which can be used to associate. Was that intentional? Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Michael Loeffler

10:43

Moin, On Wednesday 25 August 2010 12:12:08 Dominique Leuenberger wrote:

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Hello,

so I did some proposals for a shirt motive too. But on them is a little bit work to do, add some more drops on 1 and 2 and such stuff. 3 is nearly ready.

http://karl-tux-stadt.de/tmp/shirts.png

Even though those shirts look 'modern', I don't like the font.. it takes way too much concentration to read it and there is no association at all to what openSUSE is / does / represents... not a single 'known' element on the shirt which can be used to associate. They definitely look modern and are eye catching but we need the openSUSE logo. openSUSE is a strong brand and I bet you never have and will seen a t- shirt from BMW or similar without the logo.

Best M

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Was that intentional?

Dominique

Henne Vogelsang

10:47

Hey, On 25.08.2010 12:43, Michael Loeffler wrote:

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http://karl-tux-stadt.de/tmp/shirts.png

They definitely look modern and are eye catching but we need the openSUSE logo. openSUSE is a strong brand and I bet you never have and will seen a t- shirt from BMW or similar without the logo.

That's why you put the logo on the arm, at the waist or in the neck :) Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

S.Kemter

11:11

Am Mittwoch, den 25.08.2010, 12:47 +0200 schrieb Henne Vogelsang:

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Hey,

On 25.08.2010 12:43, Michael Loeffler wrote:

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http://karl-tux-stadt.de/tmp/shirts.png

They definitely look modern and are eye catching but we need the openSUSE logo. openSUSE is a strong brand and I bet you never have and will seen a t- shirt from BMW or similar without the logo.

yeah michl I know look number 3 there are more geekos on on the first it is on the cap. I said its not the end version I need a little bit time to bring it to the end.

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That's why you put the logo on the arm, at the waist or in the neck :)

yes thats not done to, the "sponsored by NOVELL" is not there too. br gnokii

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Henne

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Ricardo Varas Santana

26 Aug 26 Aug

00:59

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:11 AM, S.Kemter wrote: Tonight I'd like to share with you another attempt for the openSUSE t-shirt. Hope to have feedback. Back: https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B5G-iamnQymTM2I3NGMwZDItYzg0Ny00NjIyLWE2NzgtYzJiZTFmM2IzZmEw&hl=en&authkey=CPmgtcwI Front: https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B5G-iamnQymTNjVhNmFkNjQtNDZjNi00YjhjLWIyZmEtNmIzM2UwOWVjOTUy&hl=en&authkey=CJqMwvMM Best regards. -- Ricardo Varas Santana openSUSE Member, Ambassador, and Translator. http://ricardovs.wordpress.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Will Stephenson

14:05

On Thursday 26 August 2010 02:59:58 Ricardo Varas Santana wrote:

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On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:11 AM, S.Kemter wrote:

Tonight I'd like to share with you another attempt for the openSUSE t-shirt. Hope to have feedback.

Back: https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B5G-iamnQymTM2I3NGMwZDItYzg0Ny00NjIyLWE2N zgtYzJiZTFmM2IzZmEw&hl=en&authkey=CPmgtcwI Front: https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B5G-iamnQymTNjVhNmFkNjQtNDZjNi00YjhjLWIyZ mEtNmIzM2UwOWVjOTUy&hl=en&authkey=CJqMwvMM

That's a linux camouflage t-shirt, right? One we can wear at any geek conference and nobody will notice we are there. I do beg your pardon for dismissing this design, but without honest criticism it won't improve, and I'd love to see you design something that we print and ship all around the world. This design is a variation of the existing ones we have. So I do have a wardrobe full of SUSE, Novell, openSUSE, KDE, Qt, and associated companies' free t-shirts, and I'm probably jaded. My wife hides most of the shirts I bring home as soon as she can to stop me wearing them. If I were designing a t-shirt, I'd aim for something which *) is recognisably openSUSE *) would make people think 'I want one of those' and 'I want to hang out with openSUSE, they must be cool because they have cool t-shirts'. If you can, go to a Free Software event and spend a bit of time people watching. Which are the projects who look like A N Other FLOSS Project and which are the ones you remember? Then go down the high street and see what the expensive t-shirts in the shops look like, and produce an openSUSE pastiche. There's no shame in doing that, it's what H&M etc are doing to the brands that employ good designers do - it's what Gnokii's designs do to Stüssy circa 1994 :P. Constructively, Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Ricardo Varas Santana

27 Aug 27 Aug

01:29

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Will Stephenson wrote:

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That's a linux camouflage t-shirt, right? One we can wear at any geek conference and nobody will notice we are there.

Not really, I am a proud openSUSE Member.

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I do beg your pardon for dismissing this design, but without honest criticism it won't improve, and I'd love to see you design something that we print and ship all around the world. This design is a variation of the existing ones we have.

I meant it to be that way, a variation so I get the point. Actually, I state that the last contributors t-shirts (11.1) were cool both in design and quality (which is different from other t-shirts I got after that, probably the first ones were European and the last ones made in America?). I like simplicity too, and too realize a general purpose t-shirt design could be different from others done for a specific (oS Conference) event. Also, I understand the high expectations you and all have.

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So I do have a wardrobe full of SUSE, Novell, openSUSE, KDE, Qt, and associated companies' free t-shirts, and I'm probably jaded. My wife hides most of the shirts I bring home as soon as she can to stop me wearing them.

Situation is different here in South America, and in Chile you don't have much FLOSS events through the year. You will always find me wearing an openSUSE t-shirt our there, and you too could see Fedora Ambassadors, Debian, Ubuntu, and Arch t-shirts but it is not likely that you could get one. In other words, your wife would not need to hide them if you both were here :) By the way, most designs I have seen around are pretty simple, logo on the front and some line on the back. Coolest t-shirts are Gnome related, sold by the Gnome community at Encuentro Linux, event held once a year. I recall seeing the original blueish KDE t-shirt (with the white K + gear) on the front, plain as it is and it rocks all the way :) Thanks for your feedback Will, I will do my best to design something much more appealing, and also would like to see more people sending ideas. It's very important to me that the openSUSE project is this open and interested to hear from all of us. Best regards :) -- Ricardo Varas Santana openSUSE Member, Ambassador, and Translator. http://ricardovs.wordpress.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Will Stephenson

08:48

On Friday 27 August 2010 03:29:36 Ricardo Varas Santana wrote:

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Situation is different here in South America, and in Chile you don't have much FLOSS events through the year. You will always find me wearing an openSUSE t-shirt our there, and you too could see Fedora Ambassadors, Debian, Ubuntu, and Arch t-shirts but it is not likely that you could get one. In other words, your wife would not need to hide them if you both were here :) By the way, most designs I have seen around are pretty simple, logo on the front and some line on the back. Coolest t-shirts are Gnome related, sold by the Gnome community at Encuentro Linux, event held once a year. I recall seeing the original blueish KDE t-shirt (with the white K + gear) on the front, plain as it is and it rocks all the way :)

Thanks for your feedback Will, I will do my best to design something much more appealing, and also would like to see more people sending ideas. It's very important to me that the openSUSE project is this open and interested to hear from all of us.

I'm glad you took my feedback in the right spirit. I didn't know that FLOSS t-shirts are not so omni-present on geeks' backs in Chile - I can see where you are coming from with your 'pretty simple' design now. However, we're still designing for the global FLOSS crowd here, so a kick-ass design is needed. Search for 'fosdem' or 'linuxtag' or 'linuxcon' in Flickr or other photo websites for pictures of the hacker jungle that we want our people to stand out of instead of blending in like shy chameleons. Maybe we could start a gallery of our t-shirt collections so we all know what has been done? And what is it about the Gnome t-shirts that makes them so cool to you? Is there something you can learn from their designs? Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Dominique Leuenberger

12:22

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On 08/27/2010 at 10:48 AM, Will Stephenson wrote: t-shirts are not so omni-present on geeks' backs in Chile - I can see where you are coming from with your 'pretty simple' design now. However, we're still designing for the global FLOSS crowd here, so a kick-ass design is needed. Search for 'fosdem' or 'linuxtag' or 'linuxcon' in Flickr or other photo websites for pictures of the hacker jungle that we want our people to stand out of instead of blending in like shy chameleons.

Well, there can be a design that clearly stands out, but yet, except on except such an event, I would never wear it. Just try to find an IDM4 launch T-Shirt... As nice as the product is, the t-shirt is not going to be used by many since the launch party. So I think it's important to find a 'middle' way between 'shocking the crowd, make them stare at you' at a FOSS event, and 'be able to actually wear the t-shirt' Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Will Stephenson

12:59

On Friday 27 August 2010 14:22:58 Dominique Leuenberger wrote:

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On 08/27/2010 at 10:48 AM, Will Stephenson wrote: t-shirts are not so omni-present on geeks' backs in Chile - I can see where you are coming from with your 'pretty simple' design now. However, we're still designing for the global FLOSS crowd here, so a kick-ass design is needed. Search for 'fosdem' or 'linuxtag' or 'linuxcon' in Flickr or other photo websites for pictures of the hacker jungle that we want our people to stand out of instead of blending in like shy chameleons.

Well, there can be a design that clearly stands out, but yet, except on except such an event, I would never wear it. Just try to find an IDM4 launch T-Shirt... As nice as the product is, the t-shirt is not going to be used by many since the launch party.

So I think it's important to find a 'middle' way between 'shocking the crowd, make them stare at you' at a FOSS event, and 'be able to actually wear the t-shirt'

Sure, I meant for 'for sane values of stand out', so if you are working on a design with an integrated 2m long curly green tail you might want to save it for the opensuse haut couture show. Got pictures of the IDM4 shirt? Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

S.Kemter

25 Aug 25 Aug

10:45

Am Mittwoch, den 25.08.2010, 12:12 +0200 schrieb Dominique Leuenberger:

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On 08/25/2010 at 12:12 PM, "S.Kemter" wrote: Hello,

so I did some proposals for a shirt motive too. But on them is a little bit work to do, add some more drops on 1 and 2 and such stuff. 3 is nearly ready.

http://karl-tux-stadt.de/tmp/shirts.png

Even though those shirts look 'modern', I don't like the font.. it takes way too much concentration to read it

arround 15 years ago a korean company made a decission to bring ur products to the european market. Before the started to bring it here the made a marketing offensive. There was a lot of posters wit honly big fat red lips on it. Nothing more. People tried to find out what it means, after a while there followed spots on TV only big fat lips who spoke the name of the company DAEWOO So what have that to do with the shirt design, things they are harder to understand for people they keep in her mind later. So when u try to read whats written on the shirt u never forget it!

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and there is no association at all to what openSUSE is / does / represents... not a single 'known' element on the shirt which can be used to associate.

people they looked on the shirt found such things, maybe u should look a little bit. ;)

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Was that intentional?

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Michael Loeffler

10:47

On Wednesday 25 August 2010 12:45:42 S.Kemter wrote:

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Am Mittwoch, den 25.08.2010, 12:12 +0200 schrieb Dominique Leuenberger:

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On 08/25/2010 at 12:12 PM, "S.Kemter"

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Hello,

so I did some proposals for a shirt motive too. But on them is a little bit work to do, add some more drops on 1 and 2 and such stuff. 3 is nearly ready.

http://karl-tux-stadt.de/tmp/shirts.png

Even though those shirts look 'modern', I don't like the font.. it takes way too much concentration to read it

arround 15 years ago a korean company made a decission to bring ur products to the european market. Before the started to bring it here the made a marketing offensive. There was a lot of posters wit honly big fat red lips on it. Nothing more. People tried to find out what it means, after a while there followed spots on TV only big fat lips who spoke the name of the company DAEWOO Maybe a nice idea but a pretty bad example as DAEWOO managed that kind of everybody knew about the "red lips" ad but no one knew for what it stands for. And DAWEOO forget about the gread marketing campaign to set up their infrastructure and left the marketing shortly after they entered as they experience a huge failure.

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So what have that to do with the shirt design, things they are harder to understand for people they keep in her mind later. So when u try to read whats written on the shirt u never forget it!

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and there is no association at all to what openSUSE is / does / represents... not a single 'known' element on the shirt which can be used to associate.

people they looked on the shirt found such things, maybe u should look a little bit. ;)

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Was that intentional?

br gnokii

S.Kemter

09:36

Hello,

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My idea is to include some city/region's symbols in the t-shirt so it's less boring ;-)

The idea is good, it told u that before. Forget 2,3 and 4 work on the 1. Dont try to make to much. The shape of the city in background is enough. Give the conference stuff more room as the city shape. Date can made smaller, is only nice to have on it. br gnokii

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Some drafts (the last one needs more work): http://www.javierllorente.com/tmp/tshirt.png http://www.javierllorente.com/tmp/tshirt2.png http://www.javierllorente.com/tmp/tshirt3.png http://www.javierllorente.com/tmp/tshirt4.png

Based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nuremberg_from_Burg_17.04.2010.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Heilig-Geist- Spital_Nuernberg_March_2007_002.jpg

Greetings,

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Michael Loeffler

09:47

Moin, On Wednesday 25 August 2010 11:36:03 S.Kemter wrote:

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Hello,

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My idea is to include some city/region's symbols in the t-shirt so it's less boring ;-) I like 1 and 2, great stuff. Just to clarify we should create a conference and a general openSUSE t-shirt ;-)

Thanks Michael

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The idea is good, it told u that before. Forget 2,3 and 4 work on the 1. Dont try to make to much. The shape of the city in background is enough. Give the conference stuff more room as the city shape. Date can made smaller, is only nice to have on it.

br gnokii

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Some drafts (the last one needs more work): http://www.javierllorente.com/tmp/tshirt.png http://www.javierllorente.com/tmp/tshirt2.png http://www.javierllorente.com/tmp/tshirt3.png http://www.javierllorente.com/tmp/tshirt4.png

Based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nuremberg_from_Burg_17.04.2010.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Heilig-Geist- Spital_Nuernberg_March_2007_002.jpg

Greetings,

Will Stephenson

26 Aug 26 Aug

14:18

On Wednesday 25 August 2010 11:36:03 S.Kemter wrote:

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The idea is good, it told u that before. Forget 2,3 and 4 work on the 1. Dont try to make to much. The shape of the city in background is enough. Give the conference stuff more room as the city shape. Date can made smaller, is only nice to have on it.

4 is the standout concept. 1, 2, 3 are production-line geekware. My suggestion: Use the graphic style you used to draw old Nuremberg buildings to draw a Geeko head. Imagine if the same medieval masons tried to build a giant Geeko head out of wood, straw, stone, whitewash and clay, then draw it in the vector style you used for 4. And do it in grey on white as you suggest. Leave out the Franconian flag or it looks like a "I'm a Frank, thanks!" t-shirt on sale round the castle. Instant openSUSE + Nuremberg. Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Andy

18:09

I submitted an idea for a t-shirt. Did anyone get to see it? Was it not good? http://www.flickr.com/photos/97479886@N00/4925612633/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/97479886@N00/4925608103/in/photostream Let ma know. Thanks On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Will Stephenson wrote:

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On Wednesday 25 August 2010 11:36:03 S.Kemter wrote:

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The idea is good, it told u that before. Forget 2,3 and 4 work on the 1. Dont try to make to much. The shape of the city in background is enough. Give the conference stuff more room as the city shape. Date can made smaller, is only nice to have on it.

4 is the standout concept. 1, 2, 3 are production-line geekware.

My suggestion: Use the graphic style you used to draw old Nuremberg buildings to draw a Geeko head. Imagine if the same medieval masons tried to build a giant Geeko head out of wood, straw, stone, whitewash and clay, then draw it in the vector style you used for 4. And do it in grey on white as you suggest. Leave out the Franconian flag or it looks like a "I'm a Frank, thanks!" t-shirt on sale round the castle.

Instant openSUSE + Nuremberg.

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Will Stephenson

18:18

On Thursday 26 August 2010 20:09:15 Andy wrote:

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I submitted an idea for a t-shirt. Did anyone get to see it? Was it not good?

I didn't notice your mail from yesterday since it was all quoted.

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/97479886@N00/4925612633/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/97479886@N00/4925608103/in/photostream

I quite like the pieces concept especially the on-white version (the black one is a bit yawn, sorry), but how about this for a twist: have the pieces 'snowing' down the shirt into an assembled puzzle, and put the conference information and the logo on the pieces. Your challenge as a designer is to put the useful information on the assembled parts so it is readable without becoming squashed or stressful. Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Ricardo Varas Santana

27 Aug 27 Aug

00:50

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Andy wrote:

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I submitted an idea for a t-shirt. Did anyone get to see it? Was it not good?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/97479886@N00/4925612633/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/97479886@N00/4925608103/in/photostream

Hey! I saw them :) and I see you designed them for the conference, not for general purpose :). Really liked the black t-shirt, would be cool to see what's the back's design. Bests -- Ricardo Varas Santana openSUSE Member, Ambassador, and Translator. http://ricardovs.wordpress.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

Nelson Marques

26 Aug 26 Aug

01:10

Hi all, I do like all the proposals so far. I really don't know what to say, I believe any of the submissions would be good accepted by the community. And this is the most important, that it delivers the message the community is waiting for. Based on my own preferences I would probably like something more oriented in a 'ThinkGeek'[1] way. I did saw sometime ago in a national provider some cool t-shirts[2]. I know they kinda deliever their message in a friendly way to their users. Good job all. I'm pretty sure everyone will enjoy them. nelson On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 15:18 +0200, Michael Loeffler wrote:

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Moin,

we'll produce soon another round of openSUSE t-shirts. My question is should we do the same black openSUSE shirts (openSUSE logo on front , back black with a small "Sponsored by Novell" in the neck area) or do different ones ?

Best Michael

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S.Kemter

01:24

Am Donnerstag, den 26.08.2010, 02:10 +0100 schrieb Nelson Marques:

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Hi all,

I do like all the proposals so far. I really don't know what to say, I believe any of the submissions would be good accepted by the community. And this is the most important, that it delivers the message the community is waiting for.

Based on my own preferences I would probably like something more oriented in a 'ThinkGeek'[1] way. I did saw sometime ago in a national provider some cool t-shirts[2]. I know they kinda deliever their message in a friendly way to their users.

Good job all. I'm pretty sure everyone will enjoy them.

u should provide us the url or for what stands [1] and [2] ??? br gnokii -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org

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