[opensuse-artwork] openSUSE wallpapers vote proposal
hi all ! It's too bad that openSUSE 10.2 shipped with poor wallpapers, and the default one was not beautyful. In the past, SUSE Linux 9.1 and 10.0 shipped with BEAUTYFUL wallpapers, installed by default ! This is important since this thing is the first one a user seems on his brand new desktop, and wallpaper is one of the criterions that make a man happy or unhappy about his new desktop, and I'm really unhappy due to the sorry state of SUSE wallpapers recently. So, to fix the sorry state of 10.2 wallpaper and make sure it doesn't happens again in 10.3, I propose: 1. automatically package and install, by default, top 10 highest-rated wallpapers from kde-look.org on each openSUSE release. 2. the default wallpaper, I think should be chosen democratically, by votes. 3. kde-look.org wallpapers can be SUSEfied, by adding a SUSE lizard at the top-right corner, like we did in 9.1 and 10.0 releases. 4. All previous successfull wallpapers should NOT get dropped, but be supplied with newer openSUSE releases, such as default 9.1 and 10.0 wallpapers. What do you think of it ? ..Of course we must filter some off-topic or offensive wallpapers, prior to voting. P.S. I vote for "NIGHT" wallpaper for 10.3: :) http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/NIGHT?content=25331 -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org
OK, I have opened an enhancement request. Artwork: openSUSE wallpapers vote proposal https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=263856 send your comments there -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org
On 4/12/07, Alexey Eremenko
OK, I have opened an enhancement request.
Artwork: openSUSE wallpapers vote proposal https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=263856
send your comments there
'Democractic' or a voting method for determining artwork would never be a good idea. Artwork should be left to the experts; glancing users often don't have a clue about the global advantages of wallpaper X, or the implications of using wallpaper Y. I'm really also not a fan of large scenes (as the night one) for wallpapers, nor ones that aren't very bright. Though I should note that I also don't like the 10.2 and 10.3 default wallpaper very much, at all; I find them a little dull, I think. Kind thoughts, Francis Giannaros Web: http://francis.giannaros.org IRC: apokryphos on irc.freenode.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org
Den Thursday 12 April 2007 14:06:12 skrev Alexey Eremenko:
In the past, SUSE Linux 9.1 and 10.0 shipped with BEAUTYFUL wallpapers, installed by default ! This is important since this thing is the first one a user seems on his brand new desktop, and wallpaper is one of the criterions that make a man happy or unhappy about his new desktop, and I'm really unhappy due to the sorry state of SUSE wallpapers recently.
I don't accept the premise that the default wallpaper is of crucial importance to anyone. Most people will change it to a photo of their pet within minutes. But of course the wallpaper is a part of the distribution, and thus should be taken seriously. Any criticism should start with the guidelines, in my opinion: http://en.opensuse.org/Branding_Overview:Guidelines Personally I agree fully with the current guidelines. I too liked the power of the 10.0 wallpaper, but I also remember growing tired of it quickly, and I haven't been using it since. And I also realize that it contributed to the "scary" and overwhelming feeling many new users get when first exposed to the power of openSUSE. I just wish we could drop the blue with the waves which to me seems like a ripoff of Apple's default wallpapers. Something greenish would give us our own identity and I think this screenshot shows that a green wallpaper can adhere to the current guidelines: http://www.foresightlinux.com/sitemedia/screenshots/whole-desktop_t320.png -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 13:06 +0100, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
hi all !
It's too bad that openSUSE 10.2 shipped with poor wallpapers, and the default one was not beautyful.
In the past, SUSE Linux 9.1 and 10.0 shipped with BEAUTYFUL wallpapers, installed by default ! This is important since this thing is the first one a user seems on his brand new desktop, and wallpaper is one of the criterions that make a man happy or unhappy about his new desktop, and I'm really unhappy due to the sorry state of SUSE wallpapers recently.
So, to fix the sorry state of 10.2 wallpaper and make sure it doesn't happens again in 10.3, I propose:
1. automatically package and install, by default, top 10 highest-rated wallpapers from kde-look.org on each openSUSE release. 2. the default wallpaper, I think should be chosen democratically, by votes. 3. kde-look.org wallpapers can be SUSEfied, by adding a SUSE lizard at the top-right corner, like we did in 9.1 and 10.0 releases. 4. All previous successfull wallpapers should NOT get dropped, but be supplied with newer openSUSE releases, such as default 9.1 and 10.0 wallpapers.
What do you think of it ?
Hi Alexey, of course this is a matter of personal taste, and I'm sad to hear you consider the 10.2 wallpaper poor. 1. We couldn't be in a stronger disagreement I'm affraid :/. The 10 wallpaper is a great photo, but a very poor wallpaper in fact. I started writing some basic guidelines for usable wallpapers, you can see the initial bit here - http://en.opensuse.org/Branding_Overview:Guidelines#Wallpapers. The core mesage is that a good wallpaper doesn't obscure the items on your desktop. A highly detailed chameleon with lots of contrast isn't very usable. 2. I have a rather bad experience in having what you call 'democtratic' art direction. People have varying taste and if you average those tastes, you end up with something worse than mediocre. Noia theme for Firefox is voted one of the most popular. And to me it looks very poor, just beveling a sketch of a 6 year old kid. 3. I don't think it's necessary to overdo things with branding. It may be possible to have a subtle logo watermark, but I wouldn't make that mandatory or even recommend it. 4. I don't mind shipping the older wallpapers in some way, but they tend to get large and we aim to make the install media smaller, not bigger. Some wallpaper-extras package available though online update would be nice though. cheers -- -[http://jimmac.musichall.cz]- -[even a stopped clock gives a right time twice a day]- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org
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