[opensuse-arm] Interview of the ARM team
Howdy y'all, maybe you know about "People of openSUSE", a series of the news team to introduce openSUSE people to our users and news-readers. As ARM is one of the buzz words in the IT world this year, it might be interesting to hear something about our ARM team and what your doing in general. I planned to to a People of openSUSE special, and if you're interested, I'd be very glad to send you some questions to answer. kind regards, -- Kim Leyendecker, openSUSE Wiki Team GPG Key: 664265369547B825 | leyendecker@opensuse.org http://www.opensuse.org - Linux for open minds -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 20:20 +0100, Kim Leyendecker wrote:
Howdy y'all,
maybe you know about "People of openSUSE", a series of the news team to introduce openSUSE people to our users and news-readers.
As ARM is one of the buzz words in the IT world this year, it might be interesting to hear something about our ARM team and what your doing in general.
I planned to to a People of openSUSE special, and if you're interested, I'd be very glad to send you some questions to answer.
kind regards,
-- Kim Leyendecker, openSUSE Wiki Team GPG Key: 664265369547B825 | leyendecker@opensuse.org http://www.opensuse.org - Linux for open minds
Hi Kim, By all means, we would happily answer your questions :-) Regards, Andy -- Andrew Wafaa IRC: FunkyPenguin GPG: 0x3A36312F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
On 14.03.2012 20:50, Andrew Wafaa wrote:
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 20:20 +0100, Kim Leyendecker wrote:
Howdy y'all,
maybe you know about "People of openSUSE", a series of the news team to introduce openSUSE people to our users and news-readers.
As ARM is one of the buzz words in the IT world this year, it might be interesting to hear something about our ARM team and what your doing in general.
I planned to to a People of openSUSE special, and if you're interested, I'd be very glad to send you some questions to answer.
kind regards,
-- Kim Leyendecker, openSUSE Wiki Team GPG Key: 664265369547B825 | leyendecker@opensuse.org http://www.opensuse.org - Linux for open minds Hi Kim,
By all means, we would happily answer your questions :-)
Regards,
Andy
Howdy Andrew, sorry for my late response but I was struggling with a broken internet connection and very slow mobile internet from my smartphone. Anyway, here some questions which might interest the audience: 1.) Who are the main people behind the openSUSE ARM team? 2.) What's the main purpose of the project? 3.) How far do you get? Are there any goals that have been achieved so far? 4.) Will there be a release of the ARM edition? Beside this, it also would be nice to tell us something about the team in general, and you guys work. If you want to, you could also add some information about joining the team or goals that need to be achieved to reach the next milestone. If you got some points that should be noted, just add and answer them. thanks a lot ;-) --kdl -- With the lights out, it's less dangerous -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 17:58 +0200, Kim Leyendecker wrote:
On 14.03.2012 20:50, Andrew Wafaa wrote:
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 20:20 +0100, Kim Leyendecker wrote:
Howdy y'all,
maybe you know about "People of openSUSE", a series of the news team to introduce openSUSE people to our users and news-readers.
As ARM is one of the buzz words in the IT world this year, it might be interesting to hear something about our ARM team and what your doing in general.
I planned to to a People of openSUSE special, and if you're interested, I'd be very glad to send you some questions to answer.
kind regards,
-- Kim Leyendecker, openSUSE Wiki Team GPG Key: 664265369547B825 | leyendecker@opensuse.org http://www.opensuse.org - Linux for open minds Hi Kim,
By all means, we would happily answer your questions :-)
Regards,
Andy
Howdy Andrew,
sorry for my late response but I was struggling with a broken internet connection and very slow mobile internet from my smartphone.
Anyway, here some questions which might interest the audience:
1.) Who are the main people behind the openSUSE ARM team? 2.) What's the main purpose of the project? 3.) How far do you get? Are there any goals that have been achieved so far? 4.) Will there be a release of the ARM edition?
Beside this, it also would be nice to tell us something about the team in general, and you guys work. If you want to, you could also add some information about joining the team or goals that need to be achieved to reach the next milestone.
If you got some points that should be noted, just add and answer them.
thanks a lot ;-) --kdl
An additional question that might be answered would be: What differentiates openSUSE ARM versus other projects' ARM initiatives? Bryen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
On 26.03.2012, at 18:10, Bryen M Yunashko wrote:
On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 17:58 +0200, Kim Leyendecker wrote:
On 14.03.2012 20:50, Andrew Wafaa wrote:
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 20:20 +0100, Kim Leyendecker wrote:
Howdy y'all,
maybe you know about "People of openSUSE", a series of the news team to introduce openSUSE people to our users and news-readers.
As ARM is one of the buzz words in the IT world this year, it might be interesting to hear something about our ARM team and what your doing in general.
I planned to to a People of openSUSE special, and if you're interested, I'd be very glad to send you some questions to answer.
kind regards,
-- Kim Leyendecker, openSUSE Wiki Team GPG Key: 664265369547B825 | leyendecker@opensuse.org http://www.opensuse.org - Linux for open minds Hi Kim,
By all means, we would happily answer your questions :-)
Regards,
Andy
Howdy Andrew,
sorry for my late response but I was struggling with a broken internet connection and very slow mobile internet from my smartphone.
Anyway, here some questions which might interest the audience:
1.) Who are the main people behind the openSUSE ARM team? 2.) What's the main purpose of the project? 3.) How far do you get? Are there any goals that have been achieved so far? 4.) Will there be a release of the ARM edition?
Beside this, it also would be nice to tell us something about the team in general, and you guys work. If you want to, you could also add some information about joining the team or goals that need to be achieved to reach the next milestone.
If you got some points that should be noted, just add and answer them.
thanks a lot ;-) --kdl
An additional question that might be answered would be: What differentiates openSUSE ARM versus other projects' ARM initiatives?
Hi guys, sorry - just got back from vacation. I don't see any follow-up on this mail in my inbox. Has there been one? Alex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/15/2012 11:52 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
On 26.03.2012, at 18:10, Bryen M Yunashko wrote:
On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 17:58 +0200, Kim Leyendecker wrote:
On 14.03.2012 20:50, Andrew Wafaa wrote:
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 20:20 +0100, Kim Leyendecker wrote:
Howdy y'all,
maybe you know about "People of openSUSE", a series of the news team to introduce openSUSE people to our users and news-readers.
As ARM is one of the buzz words in the IT world this year, it might be interesting to hear something about our ARM team and what your doing in general.
I planned to to a People of openSUSE special, and if you're interested, I'd be very glad to send you some questions to answer.
kind regards,
-- Kim Leyendecker, openSUSE Wiki Team GPG Key: 664265369547B825 | leyendecker@opensuse.org http://www.opensuse.org - Linux for open minds Hi Kim,
By all means, we would happily answer your questions :-)
Regards,
Andy
Howdy Andrew,
sorry for my late response but I was struggling with a broken internet connection and very slow mobile internet from my smartphone.
Anyway, here some questions which might interest the audience:
1.) Who are the main people behind the openSUSE ARM team? 2.) What's the main purpose of the project? 3.) How far do you get? Are there any goals that have been achieved so far? 4.) Will there be a release of the ARM edition?
Beside this, it also would be nice to tell us something about the team in general, and you guys work. If you want to, you could also add some information about joining the team or goals that need to be achieved to reach the next milestone.
If you got some points that should be noted, just add and answer them.
thanks a lot ;-) --kdl
An additional question that might be answered would be: What differentiates openSUSE ARM versus other projects' ARM initiatives? Hi guys,
sorry - just got back from vacation. I don't see any follow-up on this mail in my inbox. Has there been one?
Alex
No I don't think so. Anyway, if you want you could go on and answer the questions ;-) have a lot of fun... --kdl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Kim, Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, I was on leave with limited net access.
1.) Who are the main people behind the openSUSE ARM team?
I suppose the "core" team numbers about 12 people, it is not just SUSE employees working on it but is actually a fairly even split of external/internal contributors. To name a few people Adrian Schröter, Alex Graf, Andreas Färber, Marcus Schäfer, Peter Czanik, Guillaume Gardet, Joop Boonen, Dirk Müller, Michal Hrusecky, and of course myself - Andrew Wafaa. The thing is that as it has to do with the wider distribution we get other members of the project jumping in too, for instance Andreas Jaeger has jumped in to help with glibc and gcc. Not only do we have people from openSUSE helping out, but we also have people from other ARM related projects helping - Carsten Munk from the Mer project, Steve McIntyre from Linaro, Steev Klimaszewski from Gentoo & Genesi, and many others not directly involved with openSUSE but have are involved in ARM.
2.) What's the main purpose of the project?
Pretty simple really, make sure that openSUSE can fully support the ARM architecture moving forward and also enable the distribution to be used on low powered hardware. ARM powered devices are everywhere, from tiny embedded devices to the emerging server market. ARM is in things like vehicles, aircraft, set-top boxes for your TV, network routers, mobile phones, tablets, netbooks, the list goes on. We want to be able to ensure that openSUSE is a first class citizen in the latter segments - so predominantly the appliance/more general compute loads.
3.) How far do you get? Are there any goals that have been achieved so far?
We are making pretty good progress. We have several images available for installation on different devices, Pandaboard{ES}/Beagleboard{XM}/Beaglebone/EfikaMX. We still have a way to go though. Saying that, some of the goals we have set out have been acieved, for instance we have Kiwi support for the creation of ARM images, many of our "fixes" for ARM have been submitted to and accepted by the respective development projects for inclusion in the core distribution.
4.) Will there be a release of the ARM edition?
We intend to do an ARM release, but I can't confirm when. Our intention is to have it available in time for 12.2, but it might not. At the very least we will have a Beta release at the same time as 12.2GM
5.) What differentiates openSUSE ARM versus other projects' ARM initiatives?
Nothing and everything :-) As a fairly new start in the ARM arena we thought it best to not try and re-invent the wheel, so we looked at our peers and saw what they have done; we were able to then cherry pick the components and that best suited us. So we have a good mix of things that Fedora have implemented and things that Ubuntu have implemented. We utilise the OBS for building in the same way that the core distribution does so the barrier is already lowered for contributions, we have implemented the hard-float linker path that has been championed by Linaro, we are focused on ARMv7 and above using hard-float. That is not to say that ARMv5/v6 can't be achieved, just that the team's main focus is on v7 - if you want v5 or v6 for your device (say the RaspberryPi?) the you can jump in and help get that up to scratch.
Beside this, it also would be nice to tell us something about the team in general, and you guys work. If you want to, you could also add some information about joining the team or goals that need to be achieved to reach the next milestone.
The team is very friendly and is spread out around the world as is the nature of open source projects (although there is a high concentration in Europe). It is a real community effort as those employees of SUSE don't work on it as part of their day job but rather as a side project (at least at the moment, things could change :-) ). So if you are interested in getting openSUSE working well on ARM then jump on IRC and head to #opensuse-arm on Freenode and join the opensuse-arm mailing list (it isn't a noisy list, and has no bike-shedding). Also it is worth joining the Linaro run Cross Distro mailing list[0]. If you have any other questions, please shout and we'll try and be more punctual with responses. Also if anyone else has any input then please let Kim and the others hear it! Regards, Andy 0 = http://lists.linaro.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-distro -- Andrew Wafaa IRC: FunkyPenguin GPG: 0x3A36312F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/25/2012 12:07 PM, Andrew Wafaa wrote:
Hi Kim,
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, I was on leave with limited net access.
1.) Who are the main people behind the openSUSE ARM team? I suppose the "core" team numbers about 12 people, it is not just SUSE employees working on it but is actually a fairly even split of external/internal contributors. To name a few people Adrian Schröter, Alex Graf, Andreas Färber, Marcus Schäfer, Peter Czanik, Guillaume Gardet, Joop Boonen, Dirk Müller, Michal Hrusecky, and of course myself - Andrew Wafaa. The thing is that as it has to do with the wider distribution we get other members of the project jumping in too, for instance Andreas Jaeger has jumped in to help with glibc and gcc. Not only do we have people from openSUSE helping out, but we also have people from other ARM related projects helping - Carsten Munk from the Mer project, Steve McIntyre from Linaro, Steev Klimaszewski from Gentoo & Genesi, and many others not directly involved with openSUSE but have are involved in ARM.
2.) What's the main purpose of the project? Pretty simple really, make sure that openSUSE can fully support the ARM architecture moving forward and also enable the distribution to be used on low powered hardware. ARM powered devices are everywhere, from tiny embedded devices to the emerging server market. ARM is in things like vehicles, aircraft, set-top boxes for your TV, network routers, mobile phones, tablets, netbooks, the list goes on. We want to be able to ensure that openSUSE is a first class citizen in the latter segments - so predominantly the appliance/more general compute loads.
3.) How far do you get? Are there any goals that have been achieved so far? We are making pretty good progress. We have several images available for installation on different devices, Pandaboard{ES}/Beagleboard{XM}/Beaglebone/EfikaMX. We still have a way to go though. Saying that, some of the goals we have set out have been acieved, for instance we have Kiwi support for the creation of ARM images, many of our "fixes" for ARM have been submitted to and accepted by the respective development projects for inclusion in the core distribution.
4.) Will there be a release of the ARM edition? We intend to do an ARM release, but I can't confirm when. Our intention is to have it available in time for 12.2, but it might not. At the very least we will have a Beta release at the same time as 12.2GM
5.) What differentiates openSUSE ARM versus other projects' ARM initiatives? Nothing and everything :-) As a fairly new start in the ARM arena we thought it best to not try and re-invent the wheel, so we looked at our peers and saw what they have done; we were able to then cherry pick the components and that best suited us. So we have a good mix of things that Fedora have implemented and things that Ubuntu have implemented. We utilise the OBS for building in the same way that the core distribution does so the barrier is already lowered for contributions, we have implemented the hard-float linker path that has been championed by Linaro, we are focused on ARMv7 and above using hard-float. That is not to say that ARMv5/v6 can't be achieved, just that the team's main focus is on v7 - if you want v5 or v6 for your device (say the RaspberryPi?) the you can jump in and help get that up to scratch.
Beside this, it also would be nice to tell us something about the team in general, and you guys work. If you want to, you could also add some information about joining the team or goals that need to be achieved to reach the next milestone. The team is very friendly and is spread out around the world as is the nature of open source projects (although there is a high concentration in Europe). It is a real community effort as those employees of SUSE don't work on it as part of their day job but rather as a side project (at least at the moment, things could change :-) ). So if you are interested in getting openSUSE working well on ARM then jump on IRC and head to #opensuse-arm on Freenode and join the opensuse-arm mailing list (it isn't a noisy list, and has no bike-shedding). Also it is worth joining the Linaro run Cross Distro mailing list[0].
If you have any other questions, please shout and we'll try and be more punctual with responses. Also if anyone else has any input then please let Kim and the others hear it!
Regards,
Andy 0 = http://lists.linaro.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-distro
thanks for the answer! I will pick up it and create an article asap. thanks a lot, --kdl -- With the lights out, it's less dangerous -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
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