[opensuse-arm] openSUSE & ARM & FOSDEM
Hi guys,
FOSDEM is close, we want everybody to talk about openSUSE and as ARM is
super cool the idea how to do it is to do some periodical demos -
something like five or ten minutes (can be longer) at booth in
predefined time slots about what cool stuff can you do with ARM. We are
going to have there ARM based Chromebooks to demo stuff. What we are
missing is volunteers to do the demos, schedule and the demos :-D
Few ideas that comes to my mind:
* Web development on Chromebook
Ok, little lame, but we can show that if you replace ChromeOS with
openSUSE, you can do web development on it, like rails or even much
cooler tntnet[1]. I can test, prepare and do this one.
* KVM and Chromebook
If I'm not mistaken, Cromebooks do have Cortex A-15 and thus support for
virtualization, kernel 3.8 and KVM should have support for that as well,
so theoretically, we can boot some virtual machine on Chromebook, which
would be awasome even as an article/video to do some promo after the
FOSDEM. Only trouble is, that I'm not sure how much work it is and I
don't have a Chromebook. So this one would require somebody else to
prepare and test.
* WiFi sniffing/cracking
I have no experience with that so it would be again nice if somebody
else would step in and do some demo. We can connect to the public WiFi
that is going to be there and sniff around or setup some local AP and
crack it on the spot...
* Packaging
We can do pretty ordinary OBS packaging demo with one minor modification
- do everything on Chromebook and in the end submit package in OBS to
get packages even for other architectures. I can do that one as well.
These were just a few ideas and I can make happen only two of them, so I
would like to call for volunteers and for more ideas :-D We can off
course do same demo twice or trice for different audience, but if we
will get more cool stuff, it will be better. When we had these workshop
sessions on LinuxTag, I remember that people came. Although the most
packed were Hennes evening crafting sessions...
[1] http://www.tntnet.org/
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Michal Hrusecky
On 01/28/2013 10:18 AM, Michal Hrusecky wrote:
Hi guys,
FOSDEM is close, we want everybody to talk about openSUSE and as ARM is super cool the idea how to do it is to do some periodical demos - something like five or ten minutes (can be longer) at booth in predefined time slots about what cool stuff can you do with ARM. We are going to have there ARM based Chromebooks to demo stuff. What we are missing is volunteers to do the demos, schedule and the demos :-D
Nice idea :)
Few ideas that comes to my mind:
* Web development on Chromebook
Ok, little lame, but we can show that if you replace ChromeOS with openSUSE, you can do web development on it, like rails or even much cooler tntnet[1]. I can test, prepare and do this one.
* KVM and Chromebook
If I'm not mistaken, Cromebooks do have Cortex A-15 and thus support for virtualization, kernel 3.8 and KVM should have support for that as well, so theoretically, we can boot some virtual machine on Chromebook, which would be awasome even as an article/video to do some promo after the FOSDEM. Only trouble is, that I'm not sure how much work it is and I don't have a Chromebook. So this one would require somebody else to prepare and test.
You make this sound so easy :). To run KVM on the Chromebook we need to 1) Hack up u-boot to boot into the kernel in HYP mode 2) Somehow merge all the existing trees (Chromebook & KVM), since neither are fully upstream yet. KVM is due 3.9 only. Alex
* WiFi sniffing/cracking
I have no experience with that so it would be again nice if somebody else would step in and do some demo. We can connect to the public WiFi that is going to be there and sniff around or setup some local AP and crack it on the spot...
* Packaging
We can do pretty ordinary OBS packaging demo with one minor modification - do everything on Chromebook and in the end submit package in OBS to get packages even for other architectures. I can do that one as well.
These were just a few ideas and I can make happen only two of them, so I would like to call for volunteers and for more ideas :-D We can off course do same demo twice or trice for different audience, but if we will get more cool stuff, it will be better. When we had these workshop sessions on LinuxTag, I remember that people came. Although the most packed were Hennes evening crafting sessions...
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Alexander Graf - 10:45 28.01.13 wrote:
On 01/28/2013 10:18 AM, Michal Hrusecky wrote:
Hi guys,
FOSDEM is close, we want everybody to talk about openSUSE and as ARM is super cool the idea how to do it is to do some periodical demos - something like five or ten minutes (can be longer) at booth in predefined time slots about what cool stuff can you do with ARM. We are going to have there ARM based Chromebooks to demo stuff. What we are missing is volunteers to do the demos, schedule and the demos :-D
Nice idea :)
Few ideas that comes to my mind:
* Web development on Chromebook
Ok, little lame, but we can show that if you replace ChromeOS with openSUSE, you can do web development on it, like rails or even much cooler tntnet[1]. I can test, prepare and do this one.
* KVM and Chromebook
If I'm not mistaken, Cromebooks do have Cortex A-15 and thus support for virtualization, kernel 3.8 and KVM should have support for that as well, so theoretically, we can boot some virtual machine on Chromebook, which would be awasome even as an article/video to do some promo after the FOSDEM. Only trouble is, that I'm not sure how much work it is and I don't have a Chromebook. So this one would require somebody else to prepare and test.
You make this sound so easy :). To run KVM on the Chromebook we need to
1) Hack up u-boot to boot into the kernel in HYP mode 2) Somehow merge all the existing trees (Chromebook & KVM), since neither are fully upstream yet. KVM is due 3.9 only.
Ok, let's scratch this one :-D I know I saw something about ARM and virtualization in some kernel announcement and I remember that on last FOSDEM somebody said that KVM is ready, but don't have a HW capable of that so had no reason to investigate deeper and have just some rough ideas :-D And I knew that somebody here already knows much more ;-) Ok, sounds like a too much work. So three ideas left, with WiFi sniffing we can run into some limited functionality of closed source WiFi driver as well...
* WiFi sniffing/cracking
I have no experience with that so it would be again nice if somebody else would step in and do some demo. We can connect to the public WiFi that is going to be there and sniff around or setup some local AP and crack it on the spot...
* Packaging
We can do pretty ordinary OBS packaging demo with one minor modification - do everything on Chromebook and in the end submit package in OBS to get packages even for other architectures. I can do that one as well.
These were just a few ideas and I can make happen only two of them, so I would like to call for volunteers and for more ideas :-D We can off course do same demo twice or trice for different audience, but if we will get more cool stuff, it will be better. When we had these workshop sessions on LinuxTag, I remember that people came. Although the most packed were Hennes evening crafting sessions...
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Michal Hrusecky
Michal Hrusecky - 10:18 28.01.13 wrote:
Hi guys,
FOSDEM is close, we want everybody to talk about openSUSE and as ARM is super cool the idea how to do it is to do some periodical demos - something like five or ten minutes (can be longer) at booth in predefined time slots about what cool stuff can you do with ARM. We are going to have there ARM based Chromebooks to demo stuff. What we are missing is volunteers to do the demos, schedule and the demos :-D
Few ideas that comes to my mind:
...
* WiFi sniffing/cracking
I have no experience with that so it would be again nice if somebody else would step in and do some demo. We can connect to the public WiFi that is going to be there and sniff around or setup some local AP and crack it on the spot...
Any volunteers to prepare this?
Any other ideas of what can we try to demo? Something splashy, geeky,
ideally both....
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Michal Hrusecky
Hi to all I'll come to FOSDEM, and I would like to bring with me my STE Snowball, with openSUSE onboard. I tought that was a very good idea, and I begun to prepare a demo when I saw that the board have 2 problem 1) The HDMI works, but seems to have some problem, and I could solve because I have not a HDMI screen actually 2) The CVBS works but have only one resoltuion that is too much for my old TV ( 720x576 ) 3) The OTG seems not working (may be that I have this problem http://www.igloocommunity.org/support/Work-around_for_USB-Host_issue ) 4) WiFi modules doesn't work, but may be is a "software isuee". Seems strange, but may be solvable with hcitools, but actually this tool is not in my rootfs (openSUSE 12.2 + XFCE ). For that reason I don't know if is still a good idea to bring my Snowball board at FOSDEM. What do you think about this? Advice? It's better to bring the board anyway, or to live this at home? Anyway I'll try to solve some of this bug tomorrow. Sorry for question thanks in advance bye Alexjan. -- Alexjan Carraturo -- Twitter/Facebook/Identica/flickr: axjslack Personal site: http://axjslack.wordpress.com -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org
On 30 January 2013 16:52, Alexjan Carraturo
Hi to all
I'll come to FOSDEM, and I would like to bring with me my STE Snowball, with openSUSE onboard.
I tought that was a very good idea, and I begun to prepare a demo when I saw that the board have 2 problem
Only 2? That's not bad, I had a whole heap more ;)
1) The HDMI works, but seems to have some problem, and I could solve because I have not a HDMI screen actually
You got further than me, I never managed to get HDMI to work.
2) The CVBS works but have only one resoltuion that is too much for my old TV ( 720x576 )
We may have a monitor there, I'm not sure on what equipment is going to make it. So this may or may not be an issue.
3) The OTG seems not working (may be that I have this problem http://www.igloocommunity.org/support/Work-around_for_USB-Host_issue )
More than likely you are hitting this issue. I actually hit this issue regardless of OS I use.
4) WiFi modules doesn't work, but may be is a "software isuee". Seems strange, but may be solvable with hcitools, but actually this tool is not in my rootfs (openSUSE 12.2 + XFCE ).
You are most likely missing the binary drivers for WiFi/Bluetooth/GPS/etc. You can download them via the Igloo Community site - may take a bit of digging to get to them, and you'll need to agree to the EULA.
For that reason I don't know if is still a good idea to bring my Snowball board at FOSDEM. What do you think about this? Advice? It's better to bring the board anyway, or to live this at home?
I'm afraid I can't say whether to bring it or not, my gut is to say yes and see if anything can be fixed whilst there. Problem is I will be in talks most of Saturday, with only Sunday to do any hacking.
Anyway I'll try to solve some of this bug tomorrow.
Good luck!
Sorry for question thanks in advance bye Alexjan.
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