[opensuse-amd64] Upgrading from 10.0 to 10.2 a Nightmare
Today I received my 10.2 x64 DVD from Cheapbytes. When I tried to upgrade from my 10.0 to 10.2, the dependency checker seemed to hang. Namely, after the dependency window popped, I tried to resolve all dependencies manually. Eventually, I believe I did. Then, after hitting "Accept" to proceed with the upgrade, an ***EMPTY*** dependencies window popped up. Since it showed no dependencies or conflicts, I hit "Cancel" and then "Accept" in the YAST window to proceed. The dependencies window popped up again, empty. From there on, I got stuck in this loop. My original 10.0 x64 was the retail version. Since installing it, I updated several packages via apt-get and smart. (Some of them appeared locked in the YAST window; in one of my iterations, I manually unlocked them, but that did not help as I was caught in the same loop as described above.) The DVD I just got is Opensuse. Could that create a problem? Will I have to install 10.0 from scratch? Should I upgrade to 10.1 first and then 10.2? TIA for your time. -- Running 64-bit Linux on AMD64 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-amd64+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-amd64+help@opensuse.org
I generally do a new install rather than an upgrade. The few times I have tried an upgrade it took me quite a long time to get my system working. I have the following partitions that I overwrite (format) when I install an new version. / ( break out out /tmp and /var since the growth of them is uncontrolled) /tmp /var I do not overwrite the following partitions /home /st1 (storage partition for files that want to save but not in home) If you have made a lot of hand changes to files in /etc save that directory as well. I can reinstall my desktop system in about 4 hours and get back to a fully functional system. Have a good day. William On Saturday 16 December 2006 8:21 pm, Constantine 'Gus' Fantanas wrote:
Today I received my 10.2 x64 DVD from Cheapbytes. When I tried to upgrade from my 10.0 to 10.2, the dependency checker seemed to hang. Namely, after the dependency window popped, I tried to resolve all dependencies manually. Eventually, I believe I did. Then, after hitting "Accept" to proceed with the upgrade, an ***EMPTY*** dependencies window popped up. Since it showed no dependencies or conflicts, I hit "Cancel" and then "Accept" in the YAST window to proceed. The dependencies window popped up again, empty. From there on, I got stuck in this loop.
My original 10.0 x64 was the retail version. Since installing it, I updated several packages via apt-get and smart. (Some of them appeared locked in the YAST window; in one of my iterations, I manually unlocked them, but that did not help as I was caught in the same loop as described above.) The DVD I just got is Opensuse. Could that create a problem? Will I have to install 10.0 from scratch? Should I upgrade to 10.1 first and then 10.2?
TIA for your time.
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On Saturday 16 December 2006 20:47, you wrote: if it helps, i upgraded from suse 10.1 to opensuse 10.2 without a problem. actually, it was probably one of the smoothest/nicest upgrades ever. MPlayer, as always, caused me some problem, but it was quickly resolved by adding the packman.unixheads.com as an installation source, and then installing MPlayer from there. Perhaps you should try to delete all of the offending packages from your system, and then just re-apply them from there appropriate installation sources after the upgrade.
I generally do a new install rather than an upgrade. The few times I have tried an upgrade it took me quite a long time to get my system working.
I have the following partitions that I overwrite (format) when I install an new version. / ( break out out /tmp and /var since the growth of them is uncontrolled) /tmp /var
I do not overwrite the following partitions /home /st1 (storage partition for files that want to save but not in home)
If you have made a lot of hand changes to files in /etc save that directory as well. I can reinstall my desktop system in about 4 hours and get back to a fully functional system.
Have a good day.
William
On Saturday 16 December 2006 8:21 pm, Constantine 'Gus' Fantanas wrote:
Today I received my 10.2 x64 DVD from Cheapbytes. When I tried to upgrade from my 10.0 to 10.2, the dependency checker seemed to hang. Namely, after the dependency window popped, I tried to resolve all dependencies manually. Eventually, I believe I did. Then, after hitting "Accept" to proceed with the upgrade, an ***EMPTY*** dependencies window popped up. Since it showed no dependencies or conflicts, I hit "Cancel" and then "Accept" in the YAST window to proceed. The dependencies window popped up again, empty. From there on, I got stuck in this loop.
My original 10.0 x64 was the retail version. Since installing it, I updated several packages via apt-get and smart. (Some of them appeared locked in the YAST window; in one of my iterations, I manually unlocked them, but that did not help as I was caught in the same loop as described above.) The DVD I just got is Opensuse. Could that create a problem? Will I have to install 10.0 from scratch? Should I upgrade to 10.1 first and then 10.2?
TIA for your time.
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Thank you for your suggestions. Something you state below has caught my attention: You state you added an alternative installation source (packman). Did you do that during the upgrade or afterwards? If during the upgrade, how? (I know how to add installation sources to YAST.) What is really puzzling is that the dependencies/conflicts window comes up blank and "OK,Try Again" brings it up again --an infinite loop. CF Tom Corr wrote:
On Saturday 16 December 2006 20:47, you wrote: if it helps, i upgraded from suse 10.1 to opensuse 10.2 without a problem. actually, it was probably one of the smoothest/nicest upgrades ever. MPlayer, as always, caused me some problem, but it was quickly resolved by adding the packman.unixheads.com as an installation source, and then installing MPlayer from there.
Perhaps you should try to delete all of the offending packages from your system, and then just re-apply them from there appropriate installation sources after the upgrade.
I generally do a new install rather than an upgrade. The few times I have tried an upgrade it took me quite a long time to get my system working.
I have the following partitions that I overwrite (format) when I install an new version. / ( break out out /tmp and /var since the growth of them is uncontrolled) /tmp /var
I do not overwrite the following partitions /home /st1 (storage partition for files that want to save but not in home)
If you have made a lot of hand changes to files in /etc save that directory as well. I can reinstall my desktop system in about 4 hours and get back to a fully functional system.
Have a good day.
William
On Saturday 16 December 2006 8:21 pm, Constantine 'Gus' Fantanas wrote:
Today I received my 10.2 x64 DVD from Cheapbytes. When I tried to upgrade from my 10.0 to 10.2, the dependency checker seemed to hang. Namely, after the dependency window popped, I tried to resolve all dependencies manually. Eventually, I believe I did. Then, after hitting "Accept" to proceed with the upgrade, an ***EMPTY*** dependencies window popped up. Since it showed no dependencies or conflicts, I hit "Cancel" and then "Accept" in the YAST window to proceed. The dependencies window popped up again, empty. From there on, I got stuck in this loop.
My original 10.0 x64 was the retail version. Since installing it, I updated several packages via apt-get and smart. (Some of them appeared locked in the YAST window; in one of my iterations, I manually unlocked them, but that did not help as I was caught in the same loop as described above.) The DVD I just got is Opensuse. Could that create a problem? Will I have to install 10.0 from scratch? Should I upgrade to 10.1 first and then 10.2?
TIA for your time.
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On Sunday 17 December 2006 01:20, you wrote: I added the extra installation source "after" the upgrade, unfortunately. I had a few dependency conflicts as well, and opted to remove or ignore the conflicting packages. after the upgrade, i added the packman installation source, and hooked up mplayer.
Thank you for your suggestions.
Something you state below has caught my attention: You state you added an alternative installation source (packman). Did you do that during the upgrade or afterwards? If during the upgrade, how? (I know how to add installation sources to YAST.)
What is really puzzling is that the dependencies/conflicts window comes up blank and "OK,Try Again" brings it up again --an infinite loop.
CF
Tom Corr wrote:
On Saturday 16 December 2006 20:47, you wrote: if it helps, i upgraded from suse 10.1 to opensuse 10.2 without a problem. actually, it was probably one of the smoothest/nicest upgrades ever. MPlayer, as always, caused me some problem, but it was quickly resolved by adding the packman.unixheads.com as an installation source, and then installing MPlayer from there.
Perhaps you should try to delete all of the offending packages from your system, and then just re-apply them from there appropriate installation sources after the upgrade.
I generally do a new install rather than an upgrade. The few times I have tried an upgrade it took me quite a long time to get my system working.
I have the following partitions that I overwrite (format) when I install an new version. / ( break out out /tmp and /var since the growth of them is uncontrolled) /tmp /var
I do not overwrite the following partitions /home /st1 (storage partition for files that want to save but not in home)
If you have made a lot of hand changes to files in /etc save that directory as well. I can reinstall my desktop system in about 4 hours and get back to a fully functional system.
Have a good day.
William
On Saturday 16 December 2006 8:21 pm, Constantine 'Gus' Fantanas wrote:
Today I received my 10.2 x64 DVD from Cheapbytes. When I tried to upgrade from my 10.0 to 10.2, the dependency checker seemed to hang. Namely, after the dependency window popped, I tried to resolve all dependencies manually. Eventually, I believe I did. Then, after hitting "Accept" to proceed with the upgrade, an ***EMPTY*** dependencies window popped up. Since it showed no dependencies or conflicts, I hit "Cancel" and then "Accept" in the YAST window to proceed. The dependencies window popped up again, empty. From there on, I got stuck in this loop.
My original 10.0 x64 was the retail version. Since installing it, I updated several packages via apt-get and smart. (Some of them appeared locked in the YAST window; in one of my iterations, I manually unlocked them, but that did not help as I was caught in the same loop as described above.) The DVD I just got is Opensuse. Could that create a problem? Will I have to install 10.0 from scratch? Should I upgrade to 10.1 first and then 10.2?
TIA for your time.
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Hi, On Sunday 17 December 2006 02:21, Constantine 'Gus' Fantanas wrote:
Today I received my 10.2 x64 DVD from Cheapbytes. When I tried to upgrade from my 10.0 to 10.2, the dependency checker seemed to hang.
I had that problem, too. After some more iterations of trying, I eventually used the menu to select other sets of packages ("KDE Desktop", "QT Development", ...). In fact I selected most of the available sets there. The problem with the empty window disappeared, so I at least could upgrade. I have had numerous other problems since, though. The biggest problem is that my machine does no longer run stable any longer - it crashes once or twice every day. I have not yet been able to find the reason for it. Another problem is that the driver for my network card (sky2) seems to have bugs; it stops transmitting data every now and then and only starts working again after stopping eth0, rmmod'ing sky2 and reloading it again. I do suspect that these two problems are connected, but I don't have any proof (yet). I'll try to connect a serial console (hoping for any Oopses and things like that) during the next days. Frankly, OpenSUSE 10.2 has been one of the worst experiences since I first started using SuSE (which was with version SuSE 4.2). Best, Bastian -- Bastian Friedrich bastian@bastian-friedrich.de Adress & Fon available on my HP http://www.bastian-friedrich.de/ \~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ \ The Majority is never right unless it includes me.
On Sunday 17 December 2006 05:31, you wrote: Now, i've had some of those problems myself. it seems sporadic to me. i was running fine for a few days, then went to a friends house, redid my network (thru scripts,not yast), and then i started having the problem again. i think mine is related to ndiswrapper. i think, since i had ndiswrapper for my 10.1 that it got "upgraded" and from what I have read it is no longer needed with this kernel. this may be causing the problem? I've gone into yast and have disabled IP6 and the "Powersave" options. i'm going to give this a try for a while, and then look into removing ndiswrapper.
Hi,
On Sunday 17 December 2006 02:21, Constantine 'Gus' Fantanas wrote:
Today I received my 10.2 x64 DVD from Cheapbytes. When I tried to upgrade from my 10.0 to 10.2, the dependency checker seemed to hang.
I had that problem, too. After some more iterations of trying, I eventually used the menu to select other sets of packages ("KDE Desktop", "QT Development", ...). In fact I selected most of the available sets there.
The problem with the empty window disappeared, so I at least could upgrade.
I have had numerous other problems since, though. The biggest problem is that my machine does no longer run stable any longer - it crashes once or twice every day. I have not yet been able to find the reason for it.
Another problem is that the driver for my network card (sky2) seems to have bugs; it stops transmitting data every now and then and only starts working again after stopping eth0, rmmod'ing sky2 and reloading it again.
I do suspect that these two problems are connected, but I don't have any proof (yet).
I'll try to connect a serial console (hoping for any Oopses and things like that) during the next days.
Frankly, OpenSUSE 10.2 has been one of the worst experiences since I first started using SuSE (which was with version SuSE 4.2).
Best, Bastian
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On Sunday 17 December 2006 11:31, Bastian Friedrich wrote:
Frankly, OpenSUSE 10.2 has been one of the worst experiences since I first started using SuSE (which was with version SuSE 4.2).
So far, I had much more luck. The only major problem I had was that the Wacom driver crashes when you assign the puck as CorePointer in xorg.conf. Using it as normal alternative mouse (SendCoreEvents) works, however. I should send a buck report to the Wacom driver developers... I've some troubles with my emu10k sound card, as well. Sometimes after booting, it doesn't work. In 10.1, I already had the same symptoms, but there, restarting alsa worked. Now, it doesn't. Since the sound card is quite aged, it could well be a hardware problem that gets worse over time (or the driver gets worse over time, since the hardware is so aged ;-). I've an on-board sound card, as well, but the audio quality doesn't match the emu10k. -- Bernd Paysan "If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself" http://www.jwdt.com/~paysan/
Hi, Am Sonntag, 17. Dezember 2006 02:21 schrieb Constantine 'Gus' Fantanas:
Today I received my 10.2 x64 DVD from Cheapbytes. When I tried to upgrade from my 10.0 to 10.2, the dependency checker seemed to hang. Namely, after the dependency window popped, I tried to resolve all dependencies manually. Eventually, I believe I did. Then, after hitting "Accept" to proceed with the upgrade, an ***EMPTY*** dependencies window popped up. Since it showed no dependencies or conflicts, I hit "Cancel" and then "Accept" in the YAST window to proceed. The dependencies window popped up again, empty. From there on, I got stuck in this loop.
same problem happend to me yesterday. After playing with the conflicts in paketmanager i also ended up in an empty dependencies window.... :-( Then in the next try i changed the paket selection manually. I removed the conflicting paket java_1.4 by hand and then i was able to install without problems. Some other problems happend later. A error message popped up complaining that creation of initrd failed (with some messages about old kernel modules ?) but no problem later after clicking ok. Printer configuration was empty after update (it seems that upgrade wil delete all printers without asking for new ones). DVB-TV is not working anymore. Yast TV-configuration is crashing if i try to setup the DVB-Card. Network is not working after suspend to disk. rcnetwork restart is necessary after start from suspend. Suspend to RAM is not working. It will only switch on the screensaver. Proxy Settings are lost for kde. 10.2 looks not very good by now. There was only one good thing in this upgrade. It was the PC of my wife which i upgraded and not my own. :-)))))) Greetings Carsten --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-amd64+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-amd64+help@opensuse.org
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