System to slow and to hot?
Hello, I've some problems with the following System: 1x QDI K8V800-6AL Board 2x 512 MB DDR RAM PC-400 1x Samsung 160GB IDE Platte 1x LiteOn 48x CD-Brenner 1x BenQ DW800 DVD-Brenner 1x Adaptec 3940UW Kontroller 1x Pioneer SCSI DVD-ROM 1x ATI Radeon 7500 Grafikkarte 1x 2,88MB Floppy System is running SuSE 9.1 with all online Updates applied. Problem 1. If seti@home is running, the System reboots after max. 10 minutes with a warning message like "CPU temperatur 60 C stoping system / reboot" (not exactly, I am currently not working at that machine) There is no Option in Mainboard Bios to set a "critical temperatur". So *where* I have to search to solve this problem? Any hints? Problem 2. The System is slow. Very, very slow. It takes *minutes* to open a terminal under KDE or any other WM. In /var/log/messages I've found some relevant ( I think so..) entries: Jul 15 20:59:30 LXK0D85B2 kernel: Inspecting /boot/System.map-2.6.5-7.95-default Jul 15 20:59:31 LXK0D85B2 kernel: Loaded 23728 symbols from /boot/System.map-2.6.5-7.95-default. Jul 15 20:59:31 LXK0D85B2 kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.6.5. Jul 15 20:59:31 LXK0D85B2 kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled. [...] ACPI: Thermal Zone [THRM] (48 C) Jul 15 20:59:31 LXK0D85B2 kernel: powernow-k8: Found 1 AMD Athlon 64 / Opteron processors (version 1.00.09d) Jul 15 20:59:31 LXK0D85B2 kernel: powernow-k8: BIOS error - no PSB [...] Jul 15 20:59:31 LXK0D85B2 kernel: hda: drive_cmd: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Jul 15 20:59:31 LXK0D85B2 kernel: hda: drive_cmd: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError } [...] Jul 15 20:59:42 LXK0D85B2 kdm: :0[4317]: pam_unix2: session started for user armin, service xdm-np Jul 15 20:59:43 LXK0D85B2 hostname: gethostby*.getanswer: asked for "LXK0D85B2.home.net IN A", got type "SIG" Jul 15 20:59:51 LXK0D85B2 artsd: gethostby*.getanswer: asked for "LXK0D85B2.home.net IN A", got type "SIG" Jul 15 20:59:52 LXK0D85B2 kdeinit: knotify: gethostby*.getanswer: asked for "LXK0D85B2.home.net IN A", got type "SIG" Jul 15 20:59:53 LXK0D85B2 kernel: ALSA sound/pci/via82xx.c:728: invalid via82xx_cur_ptr, using last valid pointer Jul 15 20:59:56 LXK0D85B2 last message repeated 18 times I did not have direct access to this machine so I could not test the "noapic nolapic" boot Options. I'll do that this weekend. If this Options doesn't work I have no idea what to do *then*. Any ideas where I can look for a Solution? Thanks a lot! (Excuse my english, please...) By, Siggi
On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 08:13:48AM +0200, Siegmund Langsch wrote:
Problem 1.
If seti@home is running, the System reboots after max. 10 minutes with a warning message like "CPU temperatur 60 C stoping system / reboot" (not exactly, I am currently not working at that machine)
There is no Option in Mainboard Bios to set a "critical temperatur". So *where* I have to search to solve this problem? Any hints?
Hardware problem - your CPU cooling is not adequate. AMD has some documentation on their website on how proper cooling of an Athlon64 system should look like. Please download that and follow it.
Problem 2.
The System is slow. Very, very slow. It takes *minutes* to open a terminal under KDE or any other WM. In /var/log/messages I've found some relevant ( I think so..) entries:
Could be also a side effect of the overheating. -Andi
Andi Kleen wrote:
There is no Option in Mainboard Bios to set a "critical temperatur". So *where* I have to search to solve this problem? Any hints?
Hardware problem - your CPU cooling is not adequate. AMD has some documentation on their website on how proper cooling of an Athlon64 system should look like. Please download that and follow it.
Thanks. I will try it. By Siggi
* Siegmund Langsch
Hello,
Jul 15 20:59:31 LXK0D85B2 kernel: hda: drive_cmd: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Jul 15 20:59:31 LXK0D85B2 kernel: hda: drive_cmd: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
Check with hdparm wether DMA is is used. The output from 'hdparm /dev/hda' should contain a line: using_dma = 1 (on)) if not, switch it on with 'hdarm -d1 /dev/hda'.
By, Siggi
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Stefan Fent wrote:
Jul 15 20:59:31 LXK0D85B2 kernel: hda: drive_cmd: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
Check with hdparm wether DMA is is used. The output from 'hdparm /dev/hda' should contain a line: using_dma = 1 (on))
if not, switch it on with 'hdarm -d1 /dev/hda'.
I'll try it. But... I have another System running (32bit) on an ASRock Board with Athlon XP2600 and SIS-Chipset. The same Drive Errors occure on that system when I turn on DMA in combination with journaling file systems. I've tested it several times. jfs or ReiserFS with DMA on: Same Errors as above. ext2 with DMA on: No Errors. Seems to me that is not an exotic Problem and I am searching for a general workout to solve it. During this time I have not found any solution and I hope that this is *not* the same issue on the 64bit machine. By Siggi
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08:13]:
Hello,
Jul 15 20:59:31 LXK0D85B2 kernel: hda: drive_cmd: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Jul 15 20:59:31 LXK0D85B2 kernel: hda: drive_cmd: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
Check with hdparm wether DMA is is used. The output from 'hdparm /dev/hda' should contain a line: using_dma = 1 (on))
if not, switch it on with 'hdarm -d1 /dev/hda'.
I get the same error messages after during the boot; i receive them for all EIDE devices including CD Recorder and floppy drives. When i'm playing music CD this error is repeating hundreds times ... and yes, i'm using the DMA ;-) any ideas what could be the problem ? best regards, Franz PS my system: AMD Athlon64 3000+ MSI K8T Neo (VIA FIS2R chipset) GeForce 5700 FX GPU Seagate 120GB EIDE harddisk LG Electronics 52x52x24 CD Burner 3,5" floppy drive ___________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 100MB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de
Hi again! just forgot to say that i'm using SuSE 9.1 (AMD64) with the 2.6.5-7.75 kernel. i'm also getting this error message during the startup :
Jul 15 20:59:31 LXK0D85B2 kernel: powernow-k8: BIOS error - no PSB
is this anything important ?
about slow and hot:
my system isn't slow -
after about 30minutes the fans start to work
quite hard but it never goes too hot even after
10 hours ...
--- Franz Mach
Langsch
[040716 08:13]:
Hello,
Jul 15 20:59:31 LXK0D85B2 kernel: hda: drive_cmd: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Jul 15 20:59:31 LXK0D85B2 kernel: hda: drive_cmd: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
Check with hdparm wether DMA is is used. The output from 'hdparm /dev/hda' should contain a line: using_dma = 1 (on))
if not, switch it on with 'hdarm -d1 /dev/hda'.
I get the same error messages after during the boot; i receive them for all EIDE devices including CD Recorder and floppy drives. When i'm playing music CD this error is repeating hundreds times ...
and yes, i'm using the DMA ;-)
any ideas what could be the problem ?
best regards, Franz
PS my system: AMD Athlon64 3000+ MSI K8T Neo (VIA FIS2R chipset) GeForce 5700 FX GPU Seagate 120GB EIDE harddisk LG Electronics 52x52x24 CD Burner 3,5" floppy drive
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Greetings, I'm poking my head into this thread because your slowness/
DMA timeout error symptoms look EXACTLY like a problem I had with an
Athlon64 Laptop recently and Suse 9.1, with both the install and
later update kernel... except mine didn't crash.
There is a thread a bit back on "suse-amd64" whose title begins with
"Suse 9.1 on my A64 laptop idles at huge load".
I summarize below:
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just forgot to say that i'm using SuSE 9.1 (AMD64) with the 2.6.5-7.75 kernel.
i'm also getting this error message during the startup :
Jul 15 20:59:31 LXK0D85B2 kernel: powernow-k8: BIOS error - no PSB
is this anything important ?
about slow and hot: my system isn't slow - after about 30minutes the fans start to work quite hard but it never goes too hot even after 10 hours ...
My symptoms were:
Kernel from install:
-- Powernow working.
-- Processor jumped to max speed and stayed there (2.2GHz in my
case).
-- Some DMA errors showed up in the log.
-- Load was 7-8, machine very very sluggish, but no obvious
culprits when running top. If you just count the CPU time
spent in individual processes in top/ps, the machine looked
idle, but the CPU utilization summary reported 100%.
Kernel update 2.6.5-7.95, changes:
-- Powernow broken, claim of no PSB found.
-- Runs at 800MHz.
Summary:
We found fixes for both problems.
1) Powernow broken in later kernel:
This turned out to be a simple bug and we narrowed down to a small
patch which I posted to the list near the end of the "Suse 9.1
laptop..." thread listed above. Essentially Powernow ACPI support
was disabled by accident, and we turn it back on with the patch.
2) Huge load/slowness:
This was a problem with the "powersave_proxy" script which is part
of the "powersaved" daemon. There is a bad interaction with some
ACPI BIOSes, including, unfortunately, the one on my laptop.
A simple test to see if this is the case is to stop the powersave
daemon with (as root):
/etc/init.d/powersave stop
In my case, the above got rid of the huge load. If this works for
you, then if you look through the same email thread listed above,
you'll find what I did to work around the problem but leave powersave
support enabled.
3) My machine never crashed from the heat. I agree the huge load was
probably just stressing your inadequate CPU cooling/heatsink
solution. Sorry I can't be more helpful there...
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Erich Stefan Boleyn
seti@home is probably a lot like D2OL in that it utilizes the processor close to 100% for maths intensive calculations. that is the reason for the slowness. there is a way to allocate only a certain amount of cpu time to any process but wiser heads will have to advise how to do that. try installing xosview and that will let you see what is happenning, it should clear up the mystery. Janis On Friday 16 July 2004 09:13, Siegmund Langsch wrote:
Hello,
I've some problems with the following System:
1x QDI K8V800-6AL Board 2x 512 MB DDR RAM PC-400 1x Samsung 160GB IDE Platte 1x LiteOn 48x CD-Brenner 1x BenQ DW800 DVD-Brenner 1x Adaptec 3940UW Kontroller 1x Pioneer SCSI DVD-ROM 1x ATI Radeon 7500 Grafikkarte 1x 2,88MB Floppy
System is running SuSE 9.1 with all online Updates applied.
Problem 1.
If seti@home is running, the System reboots after max. 10 minutes with a warning message like "CPU temperatur 60 C stoping system / reboot" (not exactly, I am currently not working at that machine)
There is no Option in Mainboard Bios to set a "critical temperatur". So *where* I have to search to solve this problem? Any hints?
Problem 2.
The System is slow. Very, very slow. It takes *minutes* to open a terminal under KDE or any other WM. In /var/log/messages I've found some relevant ( I think so..) entries:
Jul 15 20:59:30 LXK0D85B2 kernel: Inspecting /boot/System.map-2.6.5-7.95-default Jul 15 20:59:31 LXK0D85B2 kernel: Loaded 23728 symbols from /boot/System.map-2.6.5-7.95-default. Jul 15 20:59:31 LXK0D85B2 kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.6.5. Jul 15 20:59:31 LXK0D85B2 kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled. [...] ACPI: Thermal Zone [THRM] (48 C) Jul 15 20:59:31 LXK0D85B2 kernel: powernow-k8: Found 1 AMD Athlon 64 / Opteron processors (version 1.00.09d) Jul 15 20:59:31 LXK0D85B2 kernel: powernow-k8: BIOS error - no PSB [...] Jul 15 20:59:31 LXK0D85B2 kernel: hda: drive_cmd: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Jul 15 20:59:31 LXK0D85B2 kernel: hda: drive_cmd: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError } [...] Jul 15 20:59:42 LXK0D85B2 kdm: :0[4317]: pam_unix2: session started for user armin, service xdm-np Jul 15 20:59:43 LXK0D85B2 hostname: gethostby*.getanswer: asked for "LXK0D85B2.home.net IN A", got type "SIG" Jul 15 20:59:51 LXK0D85B2 artsd: gethostby*.getanswer: asked for "LXK0D85B2.home.net IN A", got type "SIG" Jul 15 20:59:52 LXK0D85B2 kdeinit: knotify: gethostby*.getanswer: asked for "LXK0D85B2.home.net IN A", got type "SIG" Jul 15 20:59:53 LXK0D85B2 kernel: ALSA sound/pci/via82xx.c:728: invalid via82xx_cur_ptr, using last valid pointer Jul 15 20:59:56 LXK0D85B2 last message repeated 18 times
I did not have direct access to this machine so I could not test the "noapic nolapic" boot Options. I'll do that this weekend. If this Options doesn't work I have no idea what to do *then*. Any ideas where I can look for a Solution?
Thanks a lot!
(Excuse my english, please...)
By, Siggi
Hello, Janis Klava wrote:
seti@home is probably a lot like D2OL in that it utilizes the processor close to 100% for maths intensive calculations. that is the reason for the slowness.
Thank you, but: That isn't it. The "slowness" is also present even seti is *not* running. In normal cases seti catches only *this* CPU-time which is not used by other processes and releases this time if another process wants it. By Siggi
participants (6)
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Andi Kleen
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Erich Boleyn
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Franz Mach
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Janis Klava
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langsch2@t-online.de
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Stefan Fent