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Re: [opensuse] General Poor quality of Opensuse
- From: Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:48:22 -0400
- Message-id: <1247320102.14242.16.camel@linux-m3mt>
On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 00:47 +0100, Peter Nikolic wrote:
So have I, it has been the best desktop/workstation OS and environment
I've found so far.
There never was an openSUSE 5.3; there was a SuSE 5.3 (I think)
So did I, started on an i80386SX16 running Iggdrasil. Of course, having
used LINUX for a decade or so doesn't automatically give either of our
views any merits. This need of having to lay out one's LINUX or Open
Source street-cred is really tiring; a claim is valid [or not] on its
merits.
Those are not official releases; of course things are broken.
Pulseaudio certainly hasn't been all peaches-and-cream but it does
provide real advantages and after updates it works OK on 11.1 (the
latest *release*).
Seriously? It has been years since Beagle CPU hogged; recent versions
have been very stable and consumed minimal resources. The functionality
provided is wonderful.
That's a KDE thing, so I don't know anything about it. For good
performance and stability use GNOME.
This doesn't have anything to do with openSUSE; this is an issue with
ALL distributions. But the one-click install well documented on the
website solves this problem efficiently.
Who are these "people"? They *purchase* a distro?
I'm not on the openSUSE team; but you posted this rant in a public
forum.
Perhaps, that number doesn't include me.
Claiming to be backed by a silent majority is bogus. That is equivalent
to referring to yourself as "we". Your also claiming [and thus
insulting] your mysterious majority by claiming they are either lazy or
cowards.
openSUSE has been the most pleasant and stable desktop I've used yet.
And performance is very good.
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I have used Opensuse now for some years
So have I, it has been the best desktop/workstation OS and environment
I've found so far.
since the days of 5.3 in fact and
There never was an openSUSE 5.3; there was a SuSE 5.3 (I think)
Linux in general well before that since the days of the Early 0.9 kernels all
floppy distro no X i also ran Slackware and Red Hat and tested a few more
along the way so i know a thing or two about Linux
So did I, started on an i80386SX16 running Iggdrasil. Of course, having
used LINUX for a decade or so doesn't automatically give either of our
views any merits. This need of having to lay out one's LINUX or Open
Source street-cred is really tiring; a claim is valid [or not] on its
merits.
It has to be said now after attempting to get 11.2 MS2 and 11.2 MS3 to play
the game the standards of releases has fallen to a new all time low how on
earth have you got the front to call these releases anything other than Alpha
at best .
Those are not official releases; of course things are broken.
The sound system is a total mess this pulseaudio thing is what nothing more
than a total blight on the system there needs to be a choice for users risk
pulseaudio or can that and run safe Alsa sound system . I know you are going
to say Alsa doesn't do this or that but unlike pulseaudio it never failed to
work it never chopped the audio
Pulseaudio certainly hasn't been all peaches-and-cream but it does
provide real advantages and after updates it works OK on 11.1 (the
latest *release*).
Beagle ! what a total pain and complete resource hog once again it needs to
be
a LOT easier to un-install or not install at all With the requisite warning
for those that do install it beware it will hog your CPU for excessive
amounts
of time ,
Seriously? It has been years since Beagle CPU hogged; recent versions
have been very stable and consumed minimal resources. The functionality
provided is wonderful.
Likewise Nepomuk .
That's a KDE thing, so I don't know anything about it. For good
performance and stability use GNOME.
Then we have this whole License thing about codecs and DVD playing software
things like DHT as well
This doesn't have anything to do with openSUSE; this is an issue with
ALL distributions. But the one-click install well documented on the
website solves this problem efficiently.
, People purchase a distro and rightfully so expect
to be able to install it bang in a DVD
Who are these "people"? They *purchase* a distro?
This mail is aimed squarley at the Opensuse team who o know will call me for
I'm not on the openSUSE team; but you posted this rant in a public
forum.
everything under the sun plus some it is a two way street don forget i have
gripes with quite a few there who's attitudes STINK but i am not interested
in them right now , Contray to the comments that will come in from one in
perticular a lot of the content of this email will be agreed by a
considerable number of people
Perhaps, that number doesn't include me.
a lot will keep stum they dont want their name
to appear thats ok by me some may just get brave enough to agree fair
dincum blue but do not for one moment think i am a one off this
world is full of people that think one thing and say another for the
sake of not standing out
Claiming to be backed by a silent majority is bogus. That is equivalent
to referring to yourself as "we". Your also claiming [and thus
insulting] your mysterious majority by claiming they are either lazy or
cowards.
There is a lot more i could mention maybe i will shortly but one thing is for
sure the situation as of this moment is a total disgrace to the SuSe name and
a very poor shadow of it's former good name sort it out people , There is no
point being the first ones to release something if it is a complete screwup
a
little more time in the R&D and less in the sales will work wonders
openSUSE has been the most pleasant and stable desktop I've used yet.
And performance is very good.
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