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Re: [opensuse] kde3 is gone... for 11.2
- From: Anders Johansson <ajohansson@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 00:17:11 +0200
- Message-id: <200904140017.11309.ajohansson@xxxxxxx>
On Sunday 12 April 2009 20:20:00 Larry Stotler wrote:
Not at all. It's just that the KDE3 users refused to answer simple questions
like "what is it that you use in kde3 that isn't there in kde4". They insisted
on giving non-answers like "everything", or "the devels should know already".
There have been lots of clear bug reports about specific pieces of missing
functionality in kde4, and lots of it has been fixed already, and a lot of it
is being worked on (e.g. separate wallpapers for different virtual desktops).
The KDE3 users who are calm and reasonable, and provide real answers aren't
ignored. Only the ones who fling insults and scream names and generally
behave like five year olds. The rest get their bugs fixed (though it may take
some time, in some cases)
About maintaining KDE3 for the future, note that it has been dropped upstream.
kde.org is not maintaining kde3 anymore. That means that a distribution
shipping kde3 will have to take on all maintenance work alone, and kde3 is
just too big for any one distribution to do that. All current distributions[1]
have dropped kde3 now, for precisely this reason. It's just not reasonable to
invest huge amounts of resources in maintaining a massive code base that no
one else is working on.
Both here and at kde.org, users have been offered the chance to maintain kde3.
At kde.org, people have been offered svn access to the kde3 tree, and here
there is the OBS where people can maintain it. If there really is this massive
interest in it, there should be some takers. So far I'm not aware of any.
Anders
[1] Except, apparently, PCLinuxOS. It will be very interesting to see how they
manage the work load, with security patches and other bug fixes, without an
upstream to help them
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On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 1:49 PM, jdd <jdd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I just notice that there will be nomore kde3 for the upcomming
openSUSE 11.2.
I don't want to grin. Not necessary.
I just wanted to ask here what do you have in kde3.5 and don't find in
kde4 and you would like to have. Not to say you will have it but to
give info to devs...
I stopped using kde4 on 11.1 for problems in the config panel and lack
of understanding of the new windows layout. I expect this to be solved
before next release;
what do you think? be constructive :-)
Unfortunately, this has been tried before, and the KDE3 users were
basically harrassed and ignored and told to just suck it up and deal
Not at all. It's just that the KDE3 users refused to answer simple questions
like "what is it that you use in kde3 that isn't there in kde4". They insisted
on giving non-answers like "everything", or "the devels should know already".
There have been lots of clear bug reports about specific pieces of missing
functionality in kde4, and lots of it has been fixed already, and a lot of it
is being worked on (e.g. separate wallpapers for different virtual desktops).
The KDE3 users who are calm and reasonable, and provide real answers aren't
ignored. Only the ones who fling insults and scream names and generally
behave like five year olds. The rest get their bugs fixed (though it may take
some time, in some cases)
About maintaining KDE3 for the future, note that it has been dropped upstream.
kde.org is not maintaining kde3 anymore. That means that a distribution
shipping kde3 will have to take on all maintenance work alone, and kde3 is
just too big for any one distribution to do that. All current distributions[1]
have dropped kde3 now, for precisely this reason. It's just not reasonable to
invest huge amounts of resources in maintaining a massive code base that no
one else is working on.
Both here and at kde.org, users have been offered the chance to maintain kde3.
At kde.org, people have been offered svn access to the kde3 tree, and here
there is the OBS where people can maintain it. If there really is this massive
interest in it, there should be some takers. So far I'm not aware of any.
Anders
[1] Except, apparently, PCLinuxOS. It will be very interesting to see how they
manage the work load, with security patches and other bug fixes, without an
upstream to help them
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