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[Dave Plater <dave.plater@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

David C. Rankin wrote:
> Dave Plater wrote:
>   
> > David C. Rankin wrote:
> >     
> > > Dave,
> > >
> > >     Your english was fine, I was just suffering from a momentary 
> > > cranal-rectal
> > > inversion :-(
> > >
> > >
> > >   
> > >       
> > By the way, Peter didn't seem to have solved his problem which I think
> > may be due to his not having the devel versions installed. I have no
> > experience with ATI only nvidia, in fact from what I've seen on this
> > list I don't want to have any ATI experience. Does the installation of
> > his driver require the development versions to be installed? Maybe you
> > can put him on the right track.
> > Regards
> > Dave P
> >
> >
> >
> >     
>
> Dave,
>
>       The devel versions shouldn't be required. When I checked my 11.0 
> version, all
> I have is compat-libstdc++-5.0.7-121.1 (which I understand is libstdc++33 in
> 11.1), but:
>
> [01:44 alchemy:/srv/www/htdocs/wordpress] # rpm -qa | grep libstdc++
> compat-libstdc++-5.0.7-121.1
>
> ------------- I do have other unrelated devel packages installed:
>
> libstdc++44-4.4.0_20090316-2.1
> libstdc++43-devel-4.3.3_20090126-2.3
> libstdc++43-doc-4.3.3_20090316-2.1
> libstdc++44-32bit-4.4.0_20090316-2.1
> libstdc++-devel-4.3-39.1
>
> but nothing on the system related to libstdc++.so.5
>
> [02:16 alchemy:/srv/www/htdocs/wordpress] # rpm -q --whatprovides 
> libstdc++.so.5
> compat-libstdc++-5.0.7-121.1
>
>       I have never had a compile problem with the ATI driver related to a 
> missing
> library. ATI botched a couple of driver releases that not even Stefan could
> compile for 11.1. The key here I think is 11.1. ATI hasn't released a driver 
> to
> date that will work with my hardware and 11.1. Anders and others are doing OK
> with the 9-3 release (although I suspect if they compare the 11.1 fglrx driver
> performance to that of the Sept. 08 driver running on 11.0 or 10.3 they would
> be wildly disappointed by the comparison.) The problem is there is no
> "measuring stick" or a good performing driver that will compile against 11.1.
>
>       I know in my experience with the 8-10, 8-11, 8-12, and 9-1 fglrx 
> drivers, my
> graphics performance on my laptop with an X1200/x1300 chipset all the 
> foregoing
> drivers suffer greater than a 40% performance loss compared against the 8-9 
> driver.
>
>       I would like to see the test results of others who think the 9-3 driver 
> is
> doing OK, comparing (1) the glxgears frame rates w/default window size, and 
> (2)
> the overall feel and responsiveness of the graphics subsystem against their
> same hardware running 11.0 or 10.3 with the 8-9 driver. I would be willing to
> wager their would be a bunch of bruised chins from all the "jaw dropping" that
> would occur when the performance penalty of the recent ATI drivers is actually
> measured in black-and-white. It's almost impossible to tell how much of a
> performance hit you have taken just by looking at the screen and saying "yes,
> it looks OK" without doing an actual comparison.
>
>       As for Peter, the only thing I can think of is just to plug 
> libstdc++.so.5
> into webpin on 11.1 and see what packages come back and then install those
> packages to get around his compile problem. The search on 11.1 says the 
> package
> is provided by the following. Since I don't run 11.1 (primarily due to the ATI
> issue (to be fair other things as well)), I haven't had to beat my head into
> the wall over this yet, but if it were me, I would just go down the list of 
> the
> 1-click installs below, find my architecture and install every damn one of 
> them
> that matched until I had a usable libstdc++.so.5 on my system to compile 
> against:
>
> Results from http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/
>
> libstdc++33 (3.3.3)
> The standard C++ shared library
> contains /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5
>
> 1-click:
>  
> http://api.opensuse-community.org/searchservice//YMPs/openSUSE_111/3ca198ef8ee52d812ac45f5603554b7163a7b946
>
> libstdc++33-32bit (3.3.3)
> The standard C++ shared library
> contains /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5
> Results from 
> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/gcc/openSUSE_11.1
>
> 1-click:
>
> http://api.opensuse-community.org/searchservice//YMPs/openSUSE_111/19e75469a9a43d2ae2648ca5b05344f4f52bd909
>
> libstdc++33 (3.3.3)
> The standard C++ shared library
> contains /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5
>
> 1-click:
>
> http://api.opensuse-community.org/searchservice//YMPs/openSUSE_111/f12e9978cdffc2cb6753ebbacccdb4f6067a55fa
>
> libstdc++33-32bit (3.3.3)
> The standard C++ shared library
> contains /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5
>
> 1-click:
>
> http://api.opensuse-community.org/searchservice//YMPs/openSUSE_111/c7de609901aba714febf05950c403a2d2a26a89b
>
>
> libstdc++33-64bit (3.3.3)
> The standard C++ shared library
> contains /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.5
>
> 1-click:
>
> http://api.opensuse-community.org/searchservice//YMPs/openSUSE_111/8d3112895779b3448bf8f4a1f37e43e7b3d81807
>
>       And if that didn't work, I'd just grab a copy from 11.0 and see if that 
> would
> work.
>
>       Looking closer, the  libstdc++.so.5 isn't even a real file, on 11.0 it 
> is just
> sym linked against libstdc++.so.5.0.7:
>
> 02:18 alchemy:/srv/www/htdocs/wordpress] # l /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.5
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 2008-07-26 17:47 /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.5 ->
> libstdc++.so.5.0.7*
> [02:37 alchemy:/srv/www/htdocs/wordpress] # l /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.5.0.7
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 855856 2008-06-06 16:45 /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.5.0.7*
>
>       Hell, Peter's problem may be as simple as just recreating the sym link. 
> Peter,
> give this a try [as root]:
>
> [[ -f /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.5.0.7 ]] && ln -s /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.5.0.7
> /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.5
>
>   
Just installed libstdc++33 and libstdc++33-32bit on my system, which is
closer to Peters, 11.2 alpha, and checked /usr/lib and /usr/lib64 and
both have symlinks libstdc++.so.5 pointing to libstdc++.so.5.0.7 . The
lib64 directory also has gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/4.3/libstdc++.so which is
a link to libstdc++.so.6 and gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/4.3/libstdc++.a which
I think is from a devel lib.
> From this I think we can conclude that the new driver doesn't work with
11.1 and Peter should either use the older driver you mentioned above or
as he mentioned in one of his posts, get an nvidia card.
Regards
Dave P

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