Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (1639 mails)

[Amedee Van Gasse <amedee@xxxxxxxxx>]

Randall R Schulz schreef:
> On Sunday March 1 2009, Amedee Van Gasse wrote:
> > Randall R Schulz schreef:
> > > > > > Use The Source, Luke! :)
> > > A proposition with which I cannot agree. Software that wants users
> > > should be documented. It's preposterous to expect potential users
> > > to reverse engineer a program's use and operation from its source
> > > code.
> > But then there are some that consider pre-compiled software harmful
> > and user-hostile.
>
> That's an entirely different matter. If you want to run only software 
> whose source you can read, that's great. But most software users are 
> not programmers and this is meaningless to them.

I'm not a programmer either. Compiling an already written program is
entirely different from programming a piece of software from scratch.
But I suppose that's just semantics for you.

> > It all depends on what your definition of a user is. Some users are
> > pointy-click drones, and other users are power users.
>
> And which are more numerous? This is the same as with any technology, it 
> cannot succeed if it only caters to the needs of cognoscenti.

I had to google that last word, because I'm not one.

> > Anyway ncdu *has* documentation.
>
> Great. So why give that inane "use the source" line?

Because it sounds so cool to say or write those words. It makes me feel
that I'm part of some larger community of hackers and other technically
gifted people who are in a constant battle against the Forces of Evil
(aka Microsoft). ;-)

> > ... It is cleanly packaged as a compileable tarball, ...
>
> People who have work to do and / or who are not software developers 
> should not and cannot be expected to build software in order to be able 
> to use it.
>
>
> You still haven't answered my question: Where I (or Kai) can get ncdu 
> properly packaged for openSUSE?

You can always file a bug report, or whatever the proper procedure is
for Opensuse. It's working for me, that's all I need to know, and I only
wanted to share that. I didn't expect that I had to defend myself.

Srsly. You should go a little easier on the caffeine, Randall.

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Amedee
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