Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (2740 mails)

[Amedee Van Gasse <amedee@xxxxxxxxx>]

Larry Stotler schreef:
> I personally don't have the time to go through all
> the existing bug reports to see if what I feel is missing has been
> reported.

I believe you are right. For any software project of a size like KDE, it
should be the job of dedicated incident managers to filter out duplicate
bug reports.

> That's why a lot of us bring up these things here.

You don't have time to file a bug report but you have th time to write
your very long email? I'm afraid that your priorities are wrong.

> However, what a lot
> of you guys seem to miss out is that a lot of openSUSE users don't
> hang out on these lists and they don't make their thought available.

Perhaps they should.
This is Software Libre. It is your moral duty to share. That means not
only sharing the software, but also sharing your ideas about what is wrong.

> Also, a lot of 11.0 users are probably still using KDE4.04 because
> they don't KNOW that you can add in the build service and update it.

Indeed, I didn't know that. Going to try that right now, and if it b0rks
my box well the so be it ;-)

> Honestly, so long as KDE4 has a large share of shortcomings, I
> personally feel that it shouldn't be pushed over KDE3, which is and
> will be the case with 11.1,since KDE3 won't be given billing as an
> easy to find install options.  Most people won't realize it's there
> since it's been moved to the "other" desktop list.  That shows the
> direction that you guys want to take, but so long as KDE4 is lacking
> or just not an interest for a majority of users(which IS the case
> since at least the last poll that showed more KDE3 than KDE4 users)
> then it shouldn't be given top billing.  However, you guys disagree,
> so there's not much I can do about it.

KDE4 in 11.1 is an OpenSuse decision, not a KDE decision. In other
words, "you guys" is not always the same people.
As far as I can tell, the decision to include KDE4 as default desktop in
11.1 *is* a valid point of discussion for an opensuse mailing list. All
other arguments in this thread are white noise, sorry.

My 2 cents.

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Amedee
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