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Re: [opensuse] Will there be a LTS version of OpenSuse?
- From: Aaron Kulkis <akulkis00@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 12:58:07 -0500
- Message-id: <479CC62F.9030204@xxxxxxxxxx>
Johannes Nohl wrote:
When you're not paying a single Eur for the software,
your "demands" are not all that interesting to a company
which has to make a payroll every week.
Get this through your head... opensuse is *NOT* a charity
project for Johannes Nohl and his Linux buddies -- it's
a test-bed for developing SLED and SLES distributions,
which happens to serve a PR purpose in a loss-leader
sort of way.
And no, I have *no* association with SuSE, other than as
a user (and before they discontinued retail distribution,
a customer).
Do what you have to do. But remember, nobody is going
to just give away long life cycle support, while also
maintaining a hi release rate -- maintaining 5 to 10
releases simultaneously is *not* a trivial task -- it
requires a significant number of man-hours.
You get high quality stuff for free, and then complain,
because the life-cycle is "only" 18 months.
Do you realize how much of a complete ingrate you make
yourself appear to be?
Why don't you lobby for a return of OpenSuse Professional,
which was not nearly as expensive as SLED OR SLES, but
sales of such could finance significant longer-term
support.
If you want something which COSTS MONEY, then be
prepared to pay for it, and quite *WHINING* that
it's not being given to you IN ADDITION to a very
convenient software distribution which has a value
in many thousands of euros.
The horse is dead; no matter how many times you
kick it, it isn't going to get up and run a race.
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I'm afraid you're right on that, but I hope that they at least
appreciate the feedback they got from us. It could sometimes be more
worth than an advice of a Goldman Sachs investment banker... ;)
Good point. Finnally you could ask yourself how long there will be a
community version of suse at all. Whether they don't listen to their
users demands or there won't be users because they went away to
another distro.
When you're not paying a single Eur for the software,
your "demands" are not all that interesting to a company
which has to make a payroll every week.
Get this through your head... opensuse is *NOT* a charity
project for Johannes Nohl and his Linux buddies -- it's
a test-bed for developing SLED and SLES distributions,
which happens to serve a PR purpose in a loss-leader
sort of way.
And no, I have *no* association with SuSE, other than as
a user (and before they discontinued retail distribution,
a customer).
I ask again: If I'm forced to replace opensuse on some projects to a
distribution with a longer life cycle why should I keep opensuse on my
desktop?
Do what you have to do. But remember, nobody is going
to just give away long life cycle support, while also
maintaining a hi release rate -- maintaining 5 to 10
releases simultaneously is *not* a trivial task -- it
requires a significant number of man-hours.
I'm on the move, probably. I'll see what will happen in april 2008...
You get high quality stuff for free, and then complain,
because the life-cycle is "only" 18 months.
Do you realize how much of a complete ingrate you make
yourself appear to be?
Why don't you lobby for a return of OpenSuse Professional,
which was not nearly as expensive as SLED OR SLES, but
sales of such could finance significant longer-term
support.
If you want something which COSTS MONEY, then be
prepared to pay for it, and quite *WHINING* that
it's not being given to you IN ADDITION to a very
convenient software distribution which has a value
in many thousands of euros.
The horse is dead; no matter how many times you
kick it, it isn't going to get up and run a race.
Johannes
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