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Re: [SLE] Gnome disappointment
- From: Tommy Lee McCutcheon <tom@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:27:48 +0000 (UTC)
- Message-id: <200511091928.28119.tom@xxxxxxxxxx>
On Wednesday 09 November 2005 07:01 pm, Allen wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 11:11:02AM -0800, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
> > On 11/9/05, Allen <gorebofh@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 11:24:15PM -0800, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
> > > > On 11/8/05, Allen <gorebofh@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > And not once has anyone said they are dropping KDE..... Damn I love
> > >
> > > how
> > >
> > > > > you can take generally smart people and add more people, stir for
> > > > > one minute, and they lose IQ.
> > > >
> > > > Your right. They never said they were dropping it. But once relegated
> > > > to the background.. how long before YaST is rewritten using GTK? How
> > > > long before the KDE development that SUSE was famous for
> > > > stops..etc..etc..etc.
> > >
> > > I bet you turn your monitor to the side at night so the secret agents
> > > can't
> > > watch you sleep. Lol.
> >
> > Good one.. good one. I'll bet you've worked at SUSE and see how things
> > go?
>
> Yea, because they are hiring right now, right after they dropped those
> employees they put a now hiring sign in the window.
>
> > Right? Yes? You have? And I'm sure you've spend years in the corp. world
> > and in the tech industry so you know EVERYTHING there is to know about
> > how software dev. is planned out and how things work? Right? I'm sure you
> > have
>
> I've owned a computer for 5 years. But you're right I do know how that
> works. Between college courses and a few friends of mine that worked for
> IBM on AIX, and a friend of mine who works for Intel as a developer. Yes I
> do think I have a fairly good understanding.
>
> > lots of friends who still work at SUSE? Right? Yes? Well, Gomer.. I do.
> > And
>
> I can't believe you called me a gomer....Lol I bet you have lots of
> friends.
>
> > I've watched how things go in the commercial world for years. So it's not
> > a " tinhat, the sky is falling" comment when I say that once SUSE isn't
> > paying the dev guys and putting energy into KDE that it will suffer. KDE
> > under Redhat sucks ass and so could it under SUSE if they put no effort
> > into it.
>
> And I'm saying you're a dumb ass because not ONE time has anyone said
> that's happening. Bill Gates said Linus torvalds was a talented "chap"
> before 1993. Would he say that now if it wasn't a press release? Hell no.
> Just because you've watched the trees grow doesn't mean they are going to
> fall on you.
>
> > I'm not going to trade barbs with you about who does what at night and
> > who is retarded or not. Because you have nothing of worth to say and have
> > resorted to name calling and innuendo.
>
> Yea, it's not like you called me a gomer....
>
> > > I'm taking a wait and see stance. If they drop KDE then they lose me
> > >
> > > > as a desktop customer for my work machines. I don't install X/KDE or
> > > > any other UI's on my servers, so that's not an issue.. no one should
> > > > need a bloody UI to admin a Linux/UNIX box.. just my opinion. As for
> > > > my home machines I could care less about what UI SUSE uses these
> > > > days.. I've been using a Powerbook at home and will have an X86
> > > > PowerMac when they are released. *shrug*
> > >
> > > They are more expensive than an SGI. Guess which one I'd pick?
> >
> > Oh step off. Do not spread "Macs are more expensive anything" FUD. Moron.
> > A
>
> And now you're calling me a moron, yet I have nothing of worth to say
> because I called you names? Well, you must think you're the biggest dip
> shit on the planet with your way of thinking then, hell I don't recall
> calling you anything but I have nothing of worth to say because of it, and
> just in THIS message, you've called me a gomer and a moron.
>
> > business class Dell with the same specs as the Powerbook is within $100
> > of each other. You just lost more credibility. And if you'd pick an SGI
> > then
>
> I lost credibility? FROM WHERE I'M TEXT ON YOUR SCREEN. So first I know
> nothing because I called you some name, then you call me names, and now
> because I don't have 3 grand to buy a DECENT Mac I'm worse?
>
> I don't buy "business" class machines. I don't own a business and I go to
> college every night, I have no use wasting that much money on one. Which is
> where I used Mac OS X for my first time. Well, sort of, the only app I had
> to sue for my class crashed and I had to "pick a new machine" because they
> couldn't fix it.
>
> > you're a bigger idiot as they've just been delisted and will probably be
> > bought in the next year or go out of business.
>
> Oh and now I'm an idiot, gee for someone who doesn't like when people
> resort to name calling you sure are quick to bite that in the ass. Hmmm,
> they delisted, yea, that means a lot to me considering I've never used a
> company after buying hardware from them ever.
>
> Would you get the Mac1 if you had a chance even though they aren't sold
> anymore and the company doesn't support them? Most mac weenies I know would
> just to have one. Same thing here.
>
> > > But please don't take our disdain for SUSE switching to Gnome on their
> > >
> > > > commerical distros as low IQ.. it's called debate and voicing ones
> > > > opinion... we are able to do that.. right?
> > >
> > > No.
> >
> > Ah. You must be one of those Neo-Con's.. or simply a rube.
>
> NeoCons? WTF is that? Did you mean Neo Nazi? And you just called me another
> TWO names Mr "You resorted to name calling and therefore can't have
> anything worth saying".
>
> Lol, Wow, You took all this time to reply to me in your busy schedual of
> watching paint dry.... I'm honored really. Not that I need my giant ego
> stroked by the impaired.
>
> > > And no.. YOUR uptime owns NO one. ;)
> > >
> > > You don't know my uptime.
> >
> > I guess you just didn't trim your reply and it was an uptime from someone
> > in this thread. *shrug* Whatever.
>
> You know, I bet that had something to do with the fact I REPLIED to his
> uptime.... Did you miss that in your infinite wisdom of how everything on
> earth works?
>
> > > I think my desktop stacks up and surpasses.
> > >
> > > > 2:19am up 180 days 8:12, 9 users, load average: 5.12, 5.32, 4.90
> > >
> > > Didn't install that Kernel update did you?
> >
> > Didn't need to. This machine sits behind a FreeBSD box with a very
> > restrictive ipfw rule set that also runs OpenVPN. :)
>
> You must reboot that a lot seeing as how just in the last year Free BSD has
> had multiple updates requiring a reboot. Of course I'd know this, I wrote
> docs for them.
>
> But, if I get some free time, I'd LOVE a signed agreement from you with
> that IP addy giving me permission to test those "Strict IPFW" crap you set
> up.
>
> -Allen.
>
> > --
> > Atheism is a non-prophet organization.
Sounds to me like to gents need to really GROW UP...
--
tom@xxxxxxxxxx
Tom McCutcheon
> On Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 11:11:02AM -0800, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
> > On 11/9/05, Allen <gorebofh@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 11:24:15PM -0800, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
> > > > On 11/8/05, Allen <gorebofh@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > And not once has anyone said they are dropping KDE..... Damn I love
> > >
> > > how
> > >
> > > > > you can take generally smart people and add more people, stir for
> > > > > one minute, and they lose IQ.
> > > >
> > > > Your right. They never said they were dropping it. But once relegated
> > > > to the background.. how long before YaST is rewritten using GTK? How
> > > > long before the KDE development that SUSE was famous for
> > > > stops..etc..etc..etc.
> > >
> > > I bet you turn your monitor to the side at night so the secret agents
> > > can't
> > > watch you sleep. Lol.
> >
> > Good one.. good one. I'll bet you've worked at SUSE and see how things
> > go?
>
> Yea, because they are hiring right now, right after they dropped those
> employees they put a now hiring sign in the window.
>
> > Right? Yes? You have? And I'm sure you've spend years in the corp. world
> > and in the tech industry so you know EVERYTHING there is to know about
> > how software dev. is planned out and how things work? Right? I'm sure you
> > have
>
> I've owned a computer for 5 years. But you're right I do know how that
> works. Between college courses and a few friends of mine that worked for
> IBM on AIX, and a friend of mine who works for Intel as a developer. Yes I
> do think I have a fairly good understanding.
>
> > lots of friends who still work at SUSE? Right? Yes? Well, Gomer.. I do.
> > And
>
> I can't believe you called me a gomer....Lol I bet you have lots of
> friends.
>
> > I've watched how things go in the commercial world for years. So it's not
> > a " tinhat, the sky is falling" comment when I say that once SUSE isn't
> > paying the dev guys and putting energy into KDE that it will suffer. KDE
> > under Redhat sucks ass and so could it under SUSE if they put no effort
> > into it.
>
> And I'm saying you're a dumb ass because not ONE time has anyone said
> that's happening. Bill Gates said Linus torvalds was a talented "chap"
> before 1993. Would he say that now if it wasn't a press release? Hell no.
> Just because you've watched the trees grow doesn't mean they are going to
> fall on you.
>
> > I'm not going to trade barbs with you about who does what at night and
> > who is retarded or not. Because you have nothing of worth to say and have
> > resorted to name calling and innuendo.
>
> Yea, it's not like you called me a gomer....
>
> > > I'm taking a wait and see stance. If they drop KDE then they lose me
> > >
> > > > as a desktop customer for my work machines. I don't install X/KDE or
> > > > any other UI's on my servers, so that's not an issue.. no one should
> > > > need a bloody UI to admin a Linux/UNIX box.. just my opinion. As for
> > > > my home machines I could care less about what UI SUSE uses these
> > > > days.. I've been using a Powerbook at home and will have an X86
> > > > PowerMac when they are released. *shrug*
> > >
> > > They are more expensive than an SGI. Guess which one I'd pick?
> >
> > Oh step off. Do not spread "Macs are more expensive anything" FUD. Moron.
> > A
>
> And now you're calling me a moron, yet I have nothing of worth to say
> because I called you names? Well, you must think you're the biggest dip
> shit on the planet with your way of thinking then, hell I don't recall
> calling you anything but I have nothing of worth to say because of it, and
> just in THIS message, you've called me a gomer and a moron.
>
> > business class Dell with the same specs as the Powerbook is within $100
> > of each other. You just lost more credibility. And if you'd pick an SGI
> > then
>
> I lost credibility? FROM WHERE I'M TEXT ON YOUR SCREEN. So first I know
> nothing because I called you some name, then you call me names, and now
> because I don't have 3 grand to buy a DECENT Mac I'm worse?
>
> I don't buy "business" class machines. I don't own a business and I go to
> college every night, I have no use wasting that much money on one. Which is
> where I used Mac OS X for my first time. Well, sort of, the only app I had
> to sue for my class crashed and I had to "pick a new machine" because they
> couldn't fix it.
>
> > you're a bigger idiot as they've just been delisted and will probably be
> > bought in the next year or go out of business.
>
> Oh and now I'm an idiot, gee for someone who doesn't like when people
> resort to name calling you sure are quick to bite that in the ass. Hmmm,
> they delisted, yea, that means a lot to me considering I've never used a
> company after buying hardware from them ever.
>
> Would you get the Mac1 if you had a chance even though they aren't sold
> anymore and the company doesn't support them? Most mac weenies I know would
> just to have one. Same thing here.
>
> > > But please don't take our disdain for SUSE switching to Gnome on their
> > >
> > > > commerical distros as low IQ.. it's called debate and voicing ones
> > > > opinion... we are able to do that.. right?
> > >
> > > No.
> >
> > Ah. You must be one of those Neo-Con's.. or simply a rube.
>
> NeoCons? WTF is that? Did you mean Neo Nazi? And you just called me another
> TWO names Mr "You resorted to name calling and therefore can't have
> anything worth saying".
>
> Lol, Wow, You took all this time to reply to me in your busy schedual of
> watching paint dry.... I'm honored really. Not that I need my giant ego
> stroked by the impaired.
>
> > > And no.. YOUR uptime owns NO one. ;)
> > >
> > > You don't know my uptime.
> >
> > I guess you just didn't trim your reply and it was an uptime from someone
> > in this thread. *shrug* Whatever.
>
> You know, I bet that had something to do with the fact I REPLIED to his
> uptime.... Did you miss that in your infinite wisdom of how everything on
> earth works?
>
> > > I think my desktop stacks up and surpasses.
> > >
> > > > 2:19am up 180 days 8:12, 9 users, load average: 5.12, 5.32, 4.90
> > >
> > > Didn't install that Kernel update did you?
> >
> > Didn't need to. This machine sits behind a FreeBSD box with a very
> > restrictive ipfw rule set that also runs OpenVPN. :)
>
> You must reboot that a lot seeing as how just in the last year Free BSD has
> had multiple updates requiring a reboot. Of course I'd know this, I wrote
> docs for them.
>
> But, if I get some free time, I'd LOVE a signed agreement from you with
> that IP addy giving me permission to test those "Strict IPFW" crap you set
> up.
>
> -Allen.
>
> > --
> > Atheism is a non-prophet organization.
Sounds to me like to gents need to really GROW UP...
--
tom@xxxxxxxxxx
Tom McCutcheon
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