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[Allen <gorebofh@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 10:50:59PM -0500, Lonn Dugan wrote:
> 
> Since earliest days of Unix -- vi was/is a screen editor; ed, a line at a
> time tool. (see edlin in earliest PC DOS) Wouldn't you love to have earliest
> edition of Brian W. Kernighan/Rob Pike "The Unix Programming Environment" or
> Brian W. Kernighan/Dennis M. Ritchie "The C Programming Language"

Actually when Unix was created Vi didn't exist. When BSD started working on
it, they made Vi.

 

-Allen

> Somewhere around here is a Ken Thompson masterpiece - and to clear up an
> earlier item: Ken Thompson, in 1969, began writing the Unix kernel (a small
> general purpose time sharing-system) on  salvaged DEC PDP-7 store room junk.
> By 1970, C development was started on a PDP-11, and by 1973, the kernel had
> been rewritten in C by Dennis M. Ritchie and Ken Thompson and compiled with
> Dennis M. Ritchie's C Compiler. In 1974 Unix was first licensed to
> universities "for educational purposes."
> 
> Lonn C. Dugan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Allen [mailto:gorebofh@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 22:05
> To: suse-linux-e@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [SLE] Gnome disappointment
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 09:21:28PM -0500, James Knott wrote:
> > Allen wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 04:50:04PM +0000, Dave Howorth wrote:
> > >> On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 11:01 -0500, Allen wrote:
> > >>> What you do the small speed boost may not matter, but in the 80s my
> teacher
> > >>> was writing code for the 68K processor and you couldn't use C for
> that.
> > >> Not sure what you mean here? It was and is certainly possible to use C
> > >> on the 68000. Just one example was a machine called the 'Unicorn' from
> a
> > >> company here in the UK called Torch. It not only ran a C compiler, it's
> > >> native operating system was Unix.
> > >
> > > Weird. They had to use Assembler for pretty much everything. They used
> > > those processors and.... I don't even know which OS, but they had a lot
> of
> > > Unix.
> > >
> > > He told me back when he did this that Vi would only show one line at a
> time
> > > and you'd have like thousands of lines of code and have to check
> something
> > > a few lines up so you'd have to give the command to view it up in that
> area
> > > or something.
> >
> > Perhaps he didn't know what he was talking about.  Wouldn't be the first
> > or last time that happened.
> 
> Mmmmm, usually I'd say yes to this, but this guy is one of the most
> intelligent computer people I've ever met. He has like no arrogance about
> him, but he knows he's not an idiot either. We get along good and I should
> check with him about when the dates were where Vi did this supposedly.
> 
> I know Vi is "Visual" ed, but the first versions of it maybe did only do
> one line at a time. Not positive about that though.
> 
> -Allen.
> 
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