Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (4570 mails)

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> On 11/14/05, Curtis Rey <crey@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Why would I stay with SuSE if it morphs so far away from what
originally attracted me to the distro in the first place?  The bottom line
for me is two
>> fold.  The primary reason I chose SuSE was because the way the product
was put together, from the kernel up to the desktop.  Secondly, the
other
thing
>> that attracted me to SuSE was it's community.  If the community is
effectively cut out of the picture in deference to the corporate
paradigms, I
>
> OK, I am confused here.  How is Novell cutting out the community here?
>
> To me it rather looks like they are pulling the community closer with
OpenSUSE.
>
> Did SuSE include the community in thier corporate desicions before
Novell bought them?
> If not, then why are people angry at Novell for making corporate
desicions without consulting the community?
>
> Or am I misunderstanding something here?
>
> [..]
>>
>> The bottom line is this.  As GNOME was secondary to KDE previously, KDE
is apparently slated to fall to the type of piece meal devel that I've
seen with
>> GNOME in previous SuSE releases.
>
> What makes you think that KDE development support will be discontinued?
Did Novell make any such announcements or anything?
>
> I can fully understand that people might get a bit edgy about the news
that SLES and NLD will be focussing on GNOME, because it is a fairly big
and important decision.
> But I definately don't see it as the end of SUSE.
>
> I am very glad to see that Novell took note of the reaction of the
cumminuty.  Maybe this should tell you something.  Maybe we are not
dealing with the same Novell as 10 years ago.
> Maybe they learnt a thing or two over time and maybe they will not drive
SUSE into the ground.
>
> So far Novell has done a lot to give SUSE a boost in the corporate
world. Novell also opened SUSE to the community.
>
> How about just waiting and seeing what Novell will do.
>
> I think the outcry was a good thing as it made Novell aware of the
community and it's influence.
> I still think that most people overreacted. I definately don't think it
is time to start looking for orther distro's. I think it is worth
hanging around to see how Novell handles this.
>
> my 1000 Zim$
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About spring I was thinking that the move to Gnome was so powerfull that
KDE is getting out of SuSE focus. Reviewing my posts then i kinda feel
that my paranoia it is going the right way. Nobody believed me than.

Now I believe also that Novell it is going to be THE real SuSE slayer. I
feel that about that time next year SuSE i going to be buy back from
Novell or die.

Mantel was the last man standing against, 2 days later here we have the
dropping of the KDE. He decided to leave Suse/Novell because this was not
(any) longer the company that he founded 13 years ago.

All theese projects like OpenSuSE, SUPER backed up from Novell are feeling
like the perfect community vaporware. The real problems are inside Novell
and SuSE is suffering mostly from the bad image that Novell gets nowadays.