Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (156 mails)

[Volker Kuhlmann <list0570@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Tue 25 Oct 2011 12:41:26 NZDT +1300, Pascal Bleser wrote:

> But the situation has changed, a lot. KDE3 really is a dead cow.

As is KDE4 if it's not really careful really soon.

> While the point back then was that almost everyone was on KDE3
> and that KDE4 wasn't ready for prime time, and that we would
> alienate a lot of users, this is absolutely not the case any
> more as of today. Everyone besides a small niche has moved to
> KDE4, and KDE4 is definitely ready for the job.

It's ready for some jobs, if you're prepared to put up with a lot of
nonsense. I was using KDE3 on 11.1 and was looking forward to 11.4 a few
months ago. konqueror3 was getting very long in the tooth and failing
with lockups on many sites, or failing outright on javascript, but in
comparison konqueror4 is just rubbish - it doesn't even handle the
pfsense (firewall) UI just to mention one of the many javascript site
that actually work in 3 and are dead in 4. I was trying hard to avoid
the mozbloat, but bloat beats dead duck.

Quite a few apps are nowhere to be seen in KDE4, like quanta. KDE4 has
quite some way to go to reach where KDE3 used to be. It's way to buggy.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258916 must about take the prize
for duplicates - KDE parts crashing more than once a day and no idea
where to start looking for the bug after 9 months. The only KDE bug
report I had an instant response to was about the desktop 3D-flipcrap
gizmos. I hope that's not indicative for where the development effort is
concentrated. Gtk apps are getting steadily better, soon there'll be no
point in having KDE at all. With KDE4 not having caught up yet there's
talk about qt5. Is that going to be a repeat of years of unfinished
deadlined 4 with gutless useless 5?

Sure there are a few good things in KDE 4 but sorry the bottom line is a
disappointment. I appreciate the apps from 3 that are still around and
working.

Volker

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