Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (422 mails)

[Adrian Schröter <adrian@xxxxxxx>]

On Monday 06 December 2010 11:55:17 Adrian Schröter wrote:
> Hi Greg,
>
> first of all, thanks a lot for fetching this task. If this project
> succeeds, it can definitive make a difference for openSUSE :)
>
> On Tuesday 30 November 2010 09:11:04 Greg KH wrote:
> ...
>
> > Q: How does this differ from Factory and the recently announced
> >
> >    Factory-Tested?
> >
> > A: Factory always contains the bleeding edge versions of our packages
> >
> >    that the maintainers have created.  Sometimes these packages don't
> >    work well together and cause the machine to fail to boot (Hence
> >    the
> >    need for Factory-Tested).  Tumbleweed will contain "stable"
> >    versions
> >    of these latest packages that have been deemed to "work" properly.
> >    
> >    A good example of how Tumbleweed is different from Factory would
> >    be
> >    to look at the kernel package today in Factory.  It is 2.6.37-rc
> >    as
> >    the goal is to have the final 2.6.37 release in the next 11.4
> >    release.  But, it is still under active development and not
> >    recommended for some people who don't like reporting kernel bugs.
> >    For this reason, Tumbleweed would track the stable kernel
> >    releases,
> >    in this case, it would stay at 2.6.36 until the upstream kernel is
> >    released in a "stable" format.
>
> Even though .37 is final, there are still often regressions (esp. due to
> driver updates). I think some Tumbleweed:Candidate project would be the
> requirement in any case.
>
> Just a suggestion:
> We may can add a voting in OBS, where people can say "works for me" or
> "breaks heavily for me + bugnumber". The Tumbleweed maintainer can decide
> afterwards, if it is worth to ignore the problems (there will be always
> some). And this would ensure that a sufficient number of people have tested
> the update. (I think base components would require more people to test than
> leaf packages).

In case we have an agreement that this is a good idea, I offer to write a 
concept proposal early next year for this.

-- 
Adrian Schroeter
SUSE Linux Products GmbH
email: adrian@xxxxxxx

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