Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (422 mails)

[Greg KH <gregkh@xxxxxxx>]

On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 09:18:57AM +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
> Le mardi 30 novembre 2010, à 23:24 +0100, Pascal Bleser a écrit :
> > On 2010-11-30 09:11:04 (-0800), Greg KH <gregkh@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > There's been many discussions over the past years about a "rolling
> > > update" version of openSUSE on lots of different mailing lists and in
> > > person a different conferences.
> > > So the time now is to stop talking about it, and actually trying to do
> > > it :)
> > [...]
> > > So, any thoughts, ideas, objections?
> >
> > Excellent idea!
> > Just needs to be filled with manpower now ;)
>
> :-)
>
> One other thing I'm worried about is that this might result in some
> contributors focusing on the rolling update, and some others focusing on
> the "usual" release. Ideally, people would work together, and on both,
> but that's "ideally", and things will be different. So that literally
> splits our effort.

I don't see "contributors" having to do any different work here.  They
should be creating packages for Factory today, which is where the
packages for Tumbleweed will come from, just after that same contributor
deems them "stable" enough.

> This of course means something from a manpower perspective, but there's
> a bigger risk in divergence: code/technical divergence, but also
> community divergence.
>
> On the other hand, I do understand that we probably want something with
> low overhead when it comes to submitting a change.
>
> So how should we do things? Can we require that all changes going in one
> will go to the other in some way too? Or do we need a model that is
> similar to Debian's one?

I totally do not understand your question here, care to rephrase it?

> To summarize, I don't want people to have to choose between our current
> way and the rolling release way -- if they do have to choose, they'll
> just go "oh well, I don't care about the other" and we'll be losing
> something.

"people" can choose which repo to use, that's not going to hurt anyone
here.  "contributors" will still have the same workflow as before, just
that they might get pinged every once in a while if their package should
be sent to Tumbleweed or not.

It's really not much of a difference at all for contributors, but the
benifits for our users are quite high, if they want to use this type of
rolling distro (as many have said they would like to do.)

thanks,

greg k-h
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