Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (441 mails)

[Marcus Meissner <meissner@xxxxxxx>]

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 05:49:29PM +0000, Ivan N. Zlatev wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 6:15 AM, Rajko M. <rmatov101@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Just example what new users hit when they try Linux:
> > http://blogs.computerworld.com/a_newbie_turns_to_linux
> >
> > Samba is notorious problem.
> > It is not installed, user is not warned that it should be installed.
>
> Yes this is indeed ridiculous. Samba / Windows Shares browsing doesn't
> *NOT* work out of the box on openSUSE. The reason is that it's blocked
> in the Firewall by default. So if I were an end user:
>
> 1) I have to know what YaST is
> 2) I have to know what a Firewall is.
> 3) I have to know what "Broadcast" in the Firewall is.
> 4) I have to know that "SAMBA" means "Shares"
> 5) So I can *manually* open Yast, open the Firewall, go to Broadcast
> Section, click Add, locate "Samba Browsing" wonder like mad what the
> hell those "Zone" things are not that they matter, save.
> 6) Oh and best of all. I have to know that in Nautilus I have to
> switch to manual location input
> 7) And I have to know that I have to type smb:// in order to see the shares 
> list
>
> FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL.
>
> I keep thinking there are 1) too little developers working on openSUSE
> 2) too little users 3) too many things that are broken out of the box
> on openSUSE (e.g 11.1 disk burning was broken., the release before the
> package manager was broken)
>
> Keep in mind that you might have those trillion lines of code and this
> super complex distribution which contains hundreds of packages but the
> user doesn't care. If the basic use cases don't work out of the box
> then it's broken and that's it.

Set the firewall to "Internal" if you are working internally, like when
you have SMB shares.

Ciao, Marcus
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