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Re: [opensuse-project] Why is this Ubuntu?
- From: "Rajko M." <rmatov101@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 22:09:16 -0600
- Message-id: <200903052209.17099.rmatov101@xxxxxxxxxxx>
On Thursday 05 March 2009 09:08:14 am Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Really :-)
Few individuals, not influenced by environment, brought wrong decision, but
learned from consequences, end of story. Romantic picture that I haven't seen
except in movies.
The real work place where boss can send you home, his boss can send him home,
and so on, employees will write what is expected to be written in reports,
with as little as possible annoyance for superiors, and there is small chance
that decision maker, few floors upper, will ever get real picture. That is
exactly the same communication problem in any company and it gets worse with
the time. The only way to make guys on upper floors aware of problems is when
customers/users cry laud, or they order a survey.
Corporations spend quite some effort to create corporate identity, and now you
complain on success :-)
Problem is that large entity is sum of components. What any one of you want
can come out completely different when summed up. It is fact of life.
And, about decrusting, I can see some, otherwise I wouldn't care to comment,
but there is still to strong focus on enterprise.
***
The main problem is that Novell has no product for small business and personal
use. Many would go around and try to sell software, but offer is SLED or
openSUSE. First expensive, second far from professional. There is nothing in
between.
Last time, when I did installation, it took me 4 hours with reasonably fast
DSL. The 11.0 was installed in lesser than hour, the rest was updates,
multimedia setup, and few words how to use. I don't know many people that are
so patient.
You can imagine what problem is when computer refuse to boot after kernel
update, or graphic driver is not ready when kernel is, or any of many other
problems. I have to be ready and fix the problem instantly, because I
convinced person to use the Linux. Not to mention that such problems defeat
main argument to switch, to have computer without problems.
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Hi,
on 03/05/2009 03:51 PM Rajko M. wrote:
Sincerely, behind 10.1 fiasco was the very same thing that prevents
Novell to adjust to changes today, massive and somewhat crusty corporate
structure that resists (hate) any change.
I'm sorry but what the heck are you talking about? Tell me one concrete
example of your theory.
10.1 is not an example of a crusty corporate structure that hates
change. Its an example of a wrong decision taken for all the wrong
reasons and learning from it.
Really :-)
Few individuals, not influenced by environment, brought wrong decision, but
learned from consequences, end of story. Romantic picture that I haven't seen
except in movies.
The real work place where boss can send you home, his boss can send him home,
and so on, employees will write what is expected to be written in reports,
with as little as possible annoyance for superiors, and there is small chance
that decision maker, few floors upper, will ever get real picture. That is
exactly the same communication problem in any company and it gets worse with
the time. The only way to make guys on upper floors aware of problems is when
customers/users cry laud, or they order a survey.
We keep talking about this group of people that calls itself Novell as
if it is a Person. Novell is Michael Matz and Petr Uzel. Its AJ, Adrian
Miguel, Stefan Dirsch and Ron Hovsepian. Its me and the cleaning lady.
If you think that someone is crusty and hates change then tell them. Or
tell me so i can de-crust them. But putting everyone in a sack and beat
on it is simply wrong.
Corporations spend quite some effort to create corporate identity, and now you
complain on success :-)
Problem is that large entity is sum of components. What any one of you want
can come out completely different when summed up. It is fact of life.
And, about decrusting, I can see some, otherwise I wouldn't care to comment,
but there is still to strong focus on enterprise.
***
The main problem is that Novell has no product for small business and personal
use. Many would go around and try to sell software, but offer is SLED or
openSUSE. First expensive, second far from professional. There is nothing in
between.
Last time, when I did installation, it took me 4 hours with reasonably fast
DSL. The 11.0 was installed in lesser than hour, the rest was updates,
multimedia setup, and few words how to use. I don't know many people that are
so patient.
You can imagine what problem is when computer refuse to boot after kernel
update, or graphic driver is not ready when kernel is, or any of many other
problems. I have to be ready and fix the problem instantly, because I
convinced person to use the Linux. Not to mention that such problems defeat
main argument to switch, to have computer without problems.
Henne
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