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Re: [opensuse-project] Why is this Ubuntu?
- From: Bryen <suserocks@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:42:17 -0600
- Message-id: <1236260537.25648.7.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 14:21 +0100, Martin Schlander wrote:
Much has changed since 10.1, including time itself. While it is true
that Novell still holds a certain amount of control, that control is
ebbing slowly over time, due to community activism, lessons learned and
even Novell slowly releasing its grip. I think we should look back at
10.1/ZMD as an important moment in our history lessons but not continue
to live in that moment.
If there are issues that you feel that your concerns as a community
member aren't being heard, you can always forward your issues to the
Board. While we also do not have technical veto power, we do have ways
to escalate the issue when appropriate so it gets heard.
Ultimately, it is about empowerment. For the community to have greater
say and impact on openSUSE, we need to continue to grow, and be actively
involved wherever possible. I know that sounds like some sort of
campaign message coming from me, but its true. The larger we are, the
more vocal we are, the more active we are, the more contributions we
make, the more likely we will be to have a stronger influence and level
the playing field with Novell.
--
Bryen Yunashko
openSUSE Board Member
openSUSE-GNOME Team Member
GNOME-A11y Team Member
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Torsdag 05 marts 2009 14:06:13 skrev Vincent Untz:
Le jeudi 05 mars 2009, à 10:23 +0100, jdd a écrit :
Andreas Jaeger a écrit :
openSUSE is what the community makes out of it - and I consider myself
and Novell part of the community.
this is not true. Novel may be benevolent it's still a dictator... See
what openFATE will do in the future :-)
Can you elaborate on what you mean? (so we can try to fix it :-))
It's a bit silly to deny that Novell (whoever that is) doesn't have "veto
power" in any important decision in openSUSE.
Of course you probably didn't experience 10.1, so you can't possibly fully
understand the full magnitude of what they're able and willing to do to us,
if
it suits them - and how little anyone can do about it, if there's something
that Novell does or doesn't want.
Much has changed since 10.1, including time itself. While it is true
that Novell still holds a certain amount of control, that control is
ebbing slowly over time, due to community activism, lessons learned and
even Novell slowly releasing its grip. I think we should look back at
10.1/ZMD as an important moment in our history lessons but not continue
to live in that moment.
If there are issues that you feel that your concerns as a community
member aren't being heard, you can always forward your issues to the
Board. While we also do not have technical veto power, we do have ways
to escalate the issue when appropriate so it gets heard.
Ultimately, it is about empowerment. For the community to have greater
say and impact on openSUSE, we need to continue to grow, and be actively
involved wherever possible. I know that sounds like some sort of
campaign message coming from me, but its true. The larger we are, the
more vocal we are, the more active we are, the more contributions we
make, the more likely we will be to have a stronger influence and level
the playing field with Novell.
--
Bryen Yunashko
openSUSE Board Member
openSUSE-GNOME Team Member
GNOME-A11y Team Member
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